Is Demon's Souls the most Hardcore console game of this gen so far?

I so want this game but I'm still hesitating. I've got a few question about the online part. Do you have any influence on who is able to invade your game? Like from what region those people are? Can you tell if he's from the other side of the world? Is lag a problem then?nethernova

Nope, you have no control over who and you never know when it will happen. There are 5 HUGE worlds in the game with 4 sections each. After you get through the tutorial as you are walking into the fog all of the keystones that lead to the first section of each world are open and you can go in any order you like. After you beat a section, the next section to that world is unlocked and so forth. Only players who are within a 10 level range of you can invade your game as a black phantom.

Trust me, in a game where one mistake in a fight, a wrong turn into a trap, or a misstep on a ledge or narrow bridge can often times lead to an instant death, having someone break into your game at any time stalking you in the shadows in already incredibly challenging levels adds a level of immersion you would be hard pressed to find elsewhere. Of course, after you recive a blackeye stone by defeating a black phantom (even one of the game's NPC black phantoms) you can do the same to other players as well. So, all is fair game here.

so whats the average price on play asia because right now they have it for 79.99, which may be a bit to much at the moment

Nope, you have no control over who and you never know when it will happen.

ironcreed

Anyone know when this is being released in the EU?

Sony would be crazy not to release it in the States... It's one of the few new IP's that looks absolutely stunning to me.

Nerd_Man

It's a amazingly complex, deep, and challenging game.

Its not exactly a new IP however, technically it's a spinoff of the King's Field series.

While I love me a challenging game and something that makes my wins feel rewarding, I must say, for it's type of genre, I don't really think dying from one or two hits is something I look forward to in my RPGs. When I think RPGs, I think of leveling up, fantasy and impossible like realms that don't exist but are fun to visit, and over the top zany action/stories mostly. So I dunno if I'd care too much for that game. It could be fun and rewarding. but I don't want to be level 40 and have the same skeleton summon or soldier knight come and kill me with a single blow tot he head or something still. yoshi_64

The game got 700+ levels so 40 no big deal :P.

Are you confusing hardcore with niche and mature?

Bigboi500

Sounds sexy.

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Are you confusing hardcore with niche and mature?

foxhound_fox

While I love me a challenging game and something that makes my wins feel rewarding, I must say, for it's type of genre, I don't really think dying from one or two hits is something I look forward to in my RPGs. When I think RPGs, I think of leveling up, fantasy and impossible like realms that don't exist but are fun to visit, and over the top zany action/stories mostly. So I dunno if I'd care too much for that game. It could be fun and rewarding. but I don't want to be level 40 and have the same skeleton summon or soldier knight come and kill me with a single blow tot he head or something still. yoshi_64

Demon's Soul really needs to hit the states

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]so....there is no english version of this?Midnightshade29

So, a hardcore game is cheap/hard game?

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]so....there is no english version of this?ironcreed

Exactly, people need to understand it is not just some hack 'n slash either. This game is purely about you learning tactics and getting better by virtue of your own skill and knowing when and how to use what. This game will beat you to death with your own failure over and over until you figure out why you keep dying and then challenges you, dares you to overcome it. Like the Eurogamer review said, "It is all about facing the impossible...and winning." Therein lies the addiction and incredible immersion this game provides.

Wow. I need to get this game. Hopefully it will come to NA.

Wow. I need to get this game. Hopefully it will come to NA.

dream431ca

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]While I love me a challenging game and something that makes my wins feel rewarding, I must say, for it's type of genre, I don't really think dying from one or two hits is something I look forward to in my RPGs. When I think RPGs, I think of leveling up, fantasy and impossible like realms that don't exist but are fun to visit, and over the top zany action/stories mostly. So I dunno if I'd care too much for that game. It could be fun and rewarding. but I don't want to be level 40 and have the same skeleton summon or soldier knight come and kill me with a single blow tot he head or something still. Some-Mist

lol, ever have a barbarian whirlwind into a group of guys and one of them casts thorns on you? thats the ultimate instadeath,lol, especially if you are dual wielding botds or something.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"] it probably never will, best go for the asian chinese import. same thing, cept you cant read the manual. i just ordered mine from ncsx before they got backordered again a few hours later. minell be in by monday or so. [QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]While I love me a challenging game and something that makes my wins feel rewarding, I must say, for it's type of genre, I don't really think dying from one or two hits is something I look forward to in my RPGs. When I think RPGs, I think of leveling up, fantasy and impossible like realms that don't exist but are fun to visit, and over the top zany action/stories mostly. So I dunno if I'd care too much for that game. It could be fun and rewarding. but I don't want to be level 40 and have the same skeleton summon or soldier knight come and kill me with a single blow tot he head or something still. mtradr43

lol, ever have a barbarian whirlwind into a group of guys and one of them casts thorns on you? thats the ultimate instadeath,lol, especially if you are dual wielding botds or something.

I will order it from Play-Asia. Unfortunatly they are out of stock :(

Just ordered Demon's Souls from Play Asia. It's back ordered so I could wait at least a week before it ships.

Never heard of it any videos? and what consolemurat8

PS3. All you need to do is read the review from Eurogamer. That should help you decide. Also look on YouTube for some videos. This game sounds so amazing.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/demons-souls-review

[QUOTE="murat8"]Never heard of it any videos? and what consoledream431ca

PS3. All you need to do is read the review from Eurogamer. That should help you decide. Also look on YouTube for some videos. This game sounds so amazing.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/demons-souls-review

So, a hardcore game is cheap/hard game?

Silverbond

There is nothing cheap about Demon's Souls. You will never lose a battle or die because the game "cheated" you. If you die, you earned it. Just like if you win. You earn it.

But the difficulty level is just one aspect of the game, though its one that stands out. The other aspects are so deep its mind blowing... stats, souls, the huge range of weapons, tactics, the exploration, item farming, upgrading, are insane.... and then you have the multiplayer aspect, that blends seamlessly into the single player game... and the world tendancys that change the whole makeup of levels, NPCs, enemys, drops... the depth is mind blowing.

Its not a game for everyone by any means... but thats the point. This is THE hardcore gamers game of this gen so far.

I think with a little marketing, Demon's Souls could do fairly well in the US. Not a Halo by any stretch, but enough to turn a good profit, and justify a port. It's sad that we will prolly never see a US/EU retail version. At least From Software were kind enough to make the non-Japan Asian versions in full English. :)

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[QUOTE="murat8"]Never heard of it any videos? and what consolemurat8

PS3. All you need to do is read the review from Eurogamer. That should help you decide. Also look on YouTube for some videos. This game sounds so amazing.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/demons-souls-review

Buy one. and you wont get disapointed. ;)

HANDS DOWN... So far...

Although I'm not a hardcore player myself, but I'm mostly speaking for my hardcore gamer friends who didn't have Gamespot account, & whotasted the game extensively enoughXD

You can check out my review of the game itself at my page to get a glimpse of the game if you are NOT familiar with the game, or heck, you NEVER even heard of the game...

One thing's for sure, you'll have high chances of fretting, complaining, cursing or weeping if you decide to play this game... Definitely... (& if you are really just messing around...)

Unless, like any other champs who love hardcore stuffs, you'll find this game awfully rewarding, and worth your wallet^^

BTW it WAS meant for hardcore Japanese gamers, that's why the Asia versiongot released first waybefore the NA version... The Asia version has Chinese and English in it, so yeah, either one youget would be still the same.

I think we need to discuss on what "hardcore" means.....

The more difficult it is, the more hardcore it is?

Why does it matter how "hardcore" a game is? :?

Why does it matter how "hardcore" a game is? :?

Shad0ki11

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Why does it matter how "hardcore" a game is? :?

Mutt523

Can't some people like both? :?

Also, difficulty=/= hardcore.

[QUOTE="Mutt523"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why does it matter how "hardcore" a game is? :?

Can't some people like both? :?

Also, difficulty=/= hardcore.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why does it matter how "hardcore" a game is? :?

Mutt523

What if one likes both?

It's the most punishing, but I don't think it's the most hardcore.

Alot of people hate it but Madden or some other sports game is probably the most hardcore. The controls are pretty difficult to wrap your head around because they are incredibly deep and they change up radically depending on your position, whether you're on offense or defense, whether the ball has been snapped and whether or not you've crossed the line of scrimmage. You can't just pick up Madden and start playing or you'll be making massive mistakes, choosing the wrong plays, accidentally calling audibles and probably be unable to even run or pass the ball, or play defense with any type of effectiveness. On top of that, you still have to actually learn the basics of football strategy.

The only hard thing i've heard about Demon Soul's is that if you die you have to start from the beginning of a dungeon. The controls seems pretty easy to grasp and the gameplay seems like something you can wrap your head around after a few minutes.

The more difficult it is, the more hardcore it is?

Legend_KilIer_

Yes, along with Zack and Wiki (for consoles of course).

Mega Man 9 would like a word with you.

Demon's Soul will be a sleeper hit, much like Ico and Shadow of The Colussus was a sleeper hit. And yes, it has been announced for fall of 09 in NA.

No. Sacred 2 demands MUCH more time and effort then demon souls. It may be easier but it doesn't take 500 hours in demon souls to reach top level

The more I hear about this game the more Iwant it, I like experiences that really make you think as a player and better yourself in the game. With all the praise and great reviews this game is getting I dont see why I shouldnt buy it, besides Im loving the gameplay vids.

Completed Demon's Souls a few days ago. If you think the game is hard the first time through, wait till you get to New Game +, which increases the games difficulty immensely. The ending was so completely atmospheric that it really immersed me into the whole story, no matter which ending you choose. But beware, if you take the bad ending, you will feel guilty about it.microwavedapple

Is it like a Lilith date simulator bad ending or a Silent Hill bad ending?

This game makes me want a PS3 :(