Is dualshock 4 the greatest controller of all time? Top 3?

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#101  Edited By thehig1
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Any dual shock play station controller I hate, I feel like I'm gonna get arthritis from extended plays because of the thumb sticks being so close together

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#102  Edited By Alcapello
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I would pretty much accept anything other than xbox controllers.

Main reason (aside from games) that I can't stand the system.

Her's hoping for change!!

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#103 CanYouDiglt
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I have not tried the Xbox One controller yet but I still prefer the 360 one over the PS4.

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#104 chessmaster1989
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Prefer the DS4 to the DS3 and the D3 to the Xbox 360. Haven't tried the Xbox One controller though.

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#105 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Thumbstick placement is an obvious no for me but the controller is 10x better than the DS3.

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#106  Edited By Kaze_no_Mirai
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My top three are:

1. GameCube

2. Xbox One

3. Dualshock 4

The Wii U pad and Pro controller are also very good.

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#107 GamersJustGame
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Having owned a ps4 for a while now, I gotta say the dualshock 4 is pretty amazing. The form and weight are perfect and it just feels right in my hands. I even like the little touch pad thingy. X1 controller is pretty nice too, but just not as snug imo. My top three of all time would be:

1. Dualshock 4

2. N64 controller

3. Gamecube controller

I get the notion that many people didn't like those two Nintendo controllers, but I thought they were great. You, SW? Your top 3?

360 controller hands down

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#108  Edited By Mr-Kutaragi
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Yes already accepted that DS4 is best controller. Maybe xbox s or 360 controller is second, but both terrible face button and dpad, and AA battery.

Xbone controller trash.

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#109  Edited By Sagemode87
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@RR360DD said:

@Sagemode87 said:
LOL at fanboys

You're laughing at yourself?

You're fucking weird

LOL, because youre not a fuckin fanboy, huh. Whoo, thats rich. LOL

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#110 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I would say;

1. Xbox 360 (with transforming d-pad)
2. DS4
3. Xbox one

N64 controller? Are you shittin me? It's one of the most obtuse designs with the middle grip and center placement of the analog stick.

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@Pikminmaniac said:

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@Pikminmaniac: Analogs in the right place? You mean it's comfortable for you? There is no right or wrong place. It's subjective. Playing fighting games on Xbox pads are a joke.

Yeah it's my opinion. That's a given. Do I honestly have to say IMO after everything I say?

Most games' default controls use the left analogue and the face buttons more than anything so it makes sense to have them at the same height on either side. If both analogue sticks are at the same height on both sides, my thumb positions would have to mostly be lopsided.

P.S. playing fighting games on any gamepad is a joke

Just because you see so many use arcade sticks at EVO doesn't mean the average player is doing it. Call it a joke if you want, but the majority still uses pad.I'm guessing you don't think too highly of the Wii U pro pad as well, seeing as that also has symmetrical sticks. Most games use both analogs together these days so your being on the same height point is invalid. If asymmetrical analogs are so good, why is it a bad thing to have the left analog asymmetrical from the face buttons? Seems like a catch 22 to me.

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#112 indigenous_euphoria
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Xbox one

Xbox 360

Sega Genesis

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#113  Edited By Sagemode87
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@Pikminmaniac said:

@Sagemode87 said:

@Pikminmaniac: Analogs in the right place? You mean it's comfortable for you? There is no right or wrong place. It's subjective. Playing fighting games on Xbox pads are a joke.

Yeah it's my opinion. That's a given. Do I honestly have to say IMO after everything I say?

Most games' default controls use the left analogue and the face buttons more than anything so it makes sense to have them at the same height on either side. If both analogue sticks are at the same height on both sides, my thumb positions would have to mostly be lopsided.

P.S. playing fighting games on any gamepad is a joke

Just because you see so many use arcade sticks at EVO doesn't mean the average player is doing it. Call it a joke if you want, but the majority still uses pad.I'm guessing you don't think too highly of the Wii U pro pad as well, seeing as that also has symmetrical sticks. Most games use both analogs together these days so your being on the same height point is invalid. If asymmetrical analogs are so good, why is it a bad thing to have the left analog asymmetrical from the face buttons? Seems like a catch 22 to me.

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#114  Edited By Pray_to_me
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People nuthuging the 360 controller pretty hard up in here, understandable since 360 had no games but F that the bumper buttons and DPad were useless and the Pos used Aa batteries.

Best of all time PS4, Dreamcast GameCube

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#115 Wiimotefan
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It's my my favorite controller, yeah. Wii U Pro controller is nice too. I use a Saturn controller for fighting games when possible though. I know a stick is better, but I'm just too lazy.

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#116 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@Pray_to_me said:

People nuthuging the 360 controller pretty hard up in here, understandable since 360 had no games but F that the bumper buttons and DPad were useless and the Pos used Aa batteries.

Best of all time PS4, Dreamcast GameCube

And why did cows last gen "nuthug" the DS3, when (aside from it's great d-pad) it had terrible trigger design, convex analog sticks with confined positioning, and flawed ergonomic form factor?

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#117 AutoPilotOn
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It's the best playstation controller that's for sure.

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#118 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@AutoPilotOn said:

It's the best playstation controller that's for sure.

To elaborate, it's the first real evolution in Playstation's controller design in four generations, where DS 1-3 were just small tweaks (ore refinements you could say) in essentially the same form factor.

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#120 Jag85
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Yes. Also, minus the Z button, the N64 controller was a piece of garbage that should not have got past QA.

If the N64 controller never got past QA, then we most likely wouldn't be using analog stick controllers today. Sure it's dated now, but was great for its time.

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#121 jake44
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1. DS2

2. X360

3. Wii U pro = DS3

Only played like 3 games with the DS4 so can't really judge it yet (I think it will end up being my favorite though).

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Having owned a ps4 for a while now, I gotta say the dualshock 4 is pretty amazing. The form and weight are perfect and it just feels right in my hands. I even like the little touch pad thingy. X1 controller is pretty nice too, but just not as snug imo. My top three of all time would be:

1. Dualshock 4

2. N64 controller

3. Gamecube controller

I get the notion that many people didn't like those two Nintendo controllers, but I thought they were great. You, SW? Your top 3?

I'm glad you are giving the N64 controller a nod. Never EVER understood why people disliked it. Solid construction, six face buttons, ergonomic, good buttons, good dpad, and an analog stick that rivaled even most of the following generation of consoles(if well kept).

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#124 Suppaman100
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@Heirren said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Having owned a ps4 for a while now, I gotta say the dualshock 4 is pretty amazing. The form and weight are perfect and it just feels right in my hands. I even like the little touch pad thingy. X1 controller is pretty nice too, but just not as snug imo. My top three of all time would be:

1. Dualshock 4

2. N64 controller

3. Gamecube controller

I get the notion that many people didn't like those two Nintendo controllers, but I thought they were great. You, SW? Your top 3?

I'm glad you are giving the N64 controller a nod. Never EVER understood why people disliked it. Solid construction, six face buttons, ergonomic, good buttons, good dpad, and an analog stick that rivaled even most of the following generation of consoles(if well kept).

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

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@Heirren said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Having owned a ps4 for a while now, I gotta say the dualshock 4 is pretty amazing. The form and weight are perfect and it just feels right in my hands. I even like the little touch pad thingy. X1 controller is pretty nice too, but just not as snug imo. My top three of all time would be:

1. Dualshock 4

2. N64 controller

3. Gamecube controller

I get the notion that many people didn't like those two Nintendo controllers, but I thought they were great. You, SW? Your top 3?

I'm glad you are giving the N64 controller a nod. Never EVER understood why people disliked it. Solid construction, six face buttons, ergonomic, good buttons, good dpad, and an analog stick that rivaled even most of the following generation of consoles(if well kept).

And rumble pack!

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#126  Edited By deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@Suppaman100 said:

@Heirren said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Having owned a ps4 for a while now, I gotta say the dualshock 4 is pretty amazing. The form and weight are perfect and it just feels right in my hands. I even like the little touch pad thingy. X1 controller is pretty nice too, but just not as snug imo. My top three of all time would be:

1. Dualshock 4

2. N64 controller

3. Gamecube controller

I get the notion that many people didn't like those two Nintendo controllers, but I thought they were great. You, SW? Your top 3?

I'm glad you are giving the N64 controller a nod. Never EVER understood why people disliked it. Solid construction, six face buttons, ergonomic, good buttons, good dpad, and an analog stick that rivaled even most of the following generation of consoles(if well kept).

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Why laugh? It is the truth. The controller uses high quality plastic, the buttons have some bounce to them, the controller is ergonomic in the dpad and analog positions, and contrary to popular belief the analog stick is actually rather good. It has just the right amount of spring to it, and pleasant give/take. The downside is that it must be taken decent care of, or just doesn't withstand abuse. The dualshock analogs were a joke in comparison and sony kept them until the ps3.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Heirren said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Having owned a ps4 for a while now, I gotta say the dualshock 4 is pretty amazing. The form and weight are perfect and it just feels right in my hands. I even like the little touch pad thingy. X1 controller is pretty nice too, but just not as snug imo. My top three of all time would be:

1. Dualshock 4

2. N64 controller

3. Gamecube controller

I get the notion that many people didn't like those two Nintendo controllers, but I thought they were great. You, SW? Your top 3?

I'm glad you are giving the N64 controller a nod. Never EVER understood why people disliked it. Solid construction, six face buttons, ergonomic, good buttons, good dpad, and an analog stick that rivaled even most of the following generation of consoles(if well kept).

And rumble pack!

yeah and even the rumple pack stood the test of time. It felt more powerful than the competition, most likely due to it using separate batteries.

One controller I used to think was really great was the Xbox Controller S. However, if you look at things objectively those two small black and white buttons are just poorly and poorly placed. They remind me of RESET buttons on Watches/electronics/etc.

I really liked the Japanese Saturn controller. The SNES as well. Most people will argue that six face is the way to go for fighters, but personally I think the way the hand rests on the buttons makes more sense to use four face plus two shoulder.

Virtual Boy also had a good controller.

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@Heirren said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Heirren said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Having owned a ps4 for a while now, I gotta say the dualshock 4 is pretty amazing. The form and weight are perfect and it just feels right in my hands. I even like the little touch pad thingy. X1 controller is pretty nice too, but just not as snug imo. My top three of all time would be:

1. Dualshock 4

2. N64 controller

3. Gamecube controller

I get the notion that many people didn't like those two Nintendo controllers, but I thought they were great. You, SW? Your top 3?

I'm glad you are giving the N64 controller a nod. Never EVER understood why people disliked it. Solid construction, six face buttons, ergonomic, good buttons, good dpad, and an analog stick that rivaled even most of the following generation of consoles(if well kept).

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Why laugh? It is the truth. The controller uses high quality plastic, the buttons have some bounce to them, the controller is ergonomic in the dpad and analog positions, and contrary to popular belief the analog stick is actually rather good. It has just the right amount of spring to it, and pleasant give/take. The downside is that it must be taken decent care of, or just doesn't withstand abuse. The dualshock analogs were a joke in comparison and sony kept them until the ps3.

LOL why do you lie? The N64 is known to be one of the worst controllers ever made.

It's almost always in a top 5 list of worst controllers ever. That you even dare to put "ergonomic" as an argument for that POS controller is laughable.

The thumbstick was horrible and the build quality was very poor.

Atleast Nintendo resolved their mistake and dumped that POS controller.

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@Heirren said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Heirren said:

I'm glad you are giving the N64 controller a nod. Never EVER understood why people disliked it. Solid construction, six face buttons, ergonomic, good buttons, good dpad, and an analog stick that rivaled even most of the following generation of consoles(if well kept).

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Why laugh? It is the truth. The controller uses high quality plastic, the buttons have some bounce to them, the controller is ergonomic in the dpad and analog positions, and contrary to popular belief the analog stick is actually rather good. It has just the right amount of spring to it, and pleasant give/take. The downside is that it must be taken decent care of, or just doesn't withstand abuse. The dualshock analogs were a joke in comparison and sony kept them until the ps3.

You may have a point on the material and button quality, but in no way by any criteria can the N64 controller qualify in ergonomic design.

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#130 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@Suppaman100: you mean it's top 5 worst on who's list? Random people on the internet who call themselves video game journalists? I'll take my opinion since I experienced it, thanks.

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#131 Suppaman100
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Suppaman100: you mean it's top 5 worst on who's list? Random people on the internet who call themselves video game journalists? I'll take my opinion since I experienced it, thanks.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even a crazy one.

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#132 onewiththegame
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360 controller

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#133  Edited By deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@AdobeArtist:

An I disagree. It conforms to the hand in both positions. I've actually got a brand new one in the box.

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#134 megaspiderweb09
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Polarised opinions on this one. No surprises given the subjective nature of the topic TC. This is like a debate of what had the better gear system, the BMW, Mercedes or Ford

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@Heirren said:

@AdobeArtist:

An I disagree. It conforms to the hand in both positions. I've actually got a brand new one in the box.

What kind of hands have you got? :[

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#136 freedom01  Moderator
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I'll have to say no, main reason, the L1/R1 buttons begin to stick when you press them repeatedly, which get annoying when playing games such as Dead Nation or any other games that require constant use of the L1/R1 buttons

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#137  Edited By nini200
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The Omission of the 6 button Sega Saturn Controller makes me angry.

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#139 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Yes, definitely the best controller I've ever used. This is my top 3

1. DS4

2. X360

3. DS3

I havent tried the X1 controller yet, so I cant comment

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@AdobeArtist said:
@Heirren said:

@AdobeArtist:

An I disagree. It conforms to the hand in both positions. I've actually got a brand new one in the box.

What kind of hands have you got? :[

skilled gaming hands, why you all got crippled hands?

I think most people are biased against the thing because they either used an over-used controller, had their own one break, or somehow STILL THINK that the dpad was meant to be used with the analog AND the far right stick. The idea was to have a controller that would be ergonomic for dpad and analog based games. If the analog didn't catch on, then there was the dpad to fall back on. The concept of the analog stick was originally rejected in the form of "wtf is THAT?" before people actually played Mario 64--then the revelation occurred. I've used a 360 pad for Mario 64 and the like; the N64 controller works much better in every way.