Is Final Fantasy 4 (FF2 SNES) still the best JRPG ever?

I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

TheEroica

Its on my Top 5 list but Xenogears is the best JRPG of all time by a landslide! That game really changed my mind about what a game could be.

ff6-9 all triumphs 4.

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I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

texasgoldrush

I agree that FF6 and Chrono Trigger are the better JRPGs.

but FF4 and the FF4 the After Years with all the DLC make FF4 one giant epic.

I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

TheEroica

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I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

lucky_star

I'm still waiting for FF3 (FF6) to come to the Virtual Console.

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I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

lucky_star

I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

Lets not all forget the best FF ever. Final Fantasy 9. Now that we've gotten that cleared up yall can post about the second best FF. :P

Final Fantasy 6 is.

No, not even close. Not even the best FF.

Thats said, I thought it was a great game.

Haven't played much of FFIV, but Chrono Cross and Chrono Trigger are the best JRPGs I've ever played.

The game was great for its time. But the only thing about the game that has stood the test of time is the soundtrack. The gameplay isn't particularly special, and the plot isn't either. It's an enjoyable game. One thing it has that the playstation favorites (as well as VI) don't have is challenging battles.

I would avoid the DS ver. It seems to resort to cheap tactics more often and the overglorified story scenes just make it more obvious how ridiculous the story is.

I played the DS remake and did not find the gamegood, let alone the best in the genre. I stoped playing the game once I got to the underworld.

Tellah and the Twins?

No, I liked Final Fantasy 6 better, I bought it day one as "Final Fantasy FIII" for SNES. I remember reserving it oh so many years ago for my SNES.

EDIT : I just read the OP, and responded, then I went through the thread to see how others felt, apparently I'm not alone in my like of FF6 over FF4. Chrono Trigger for SNES ftw as well.

FFIV is in a 1st equal tie with FFVII and Lost Odyssey imo.

Final Fantasy 6, 9, and 10 are better then 4 in my opinion.

EDIT: Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are better as well.

No way, Phantasy Star 2+4 > FF2... And while those are some of my favorites they arent even close to being the best JRPGS ever.

No. Don't get me wrong, it's one of the best for sure, but not THE best. FF6 and Chrono Trigger are two games that are better than it.

It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

Just to clarify, which one is FF4? I had Final Fantasy II on SNES which had Cecil the Dark Knight and Kain. Is that the one that is actually #4 in the series?

imo Chrono Trigger, FFX, and DQVIII are the best JRPGs.

It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

VendettaRed07

All 3 Xenosaga games, Suikoden III & V, Final Fantasy X, XII, & XIII are better than FFIV. All post 2000.

It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

VendettaRed07

Well, that's because beside the first 2 disks of FF9, there hasn't been a JRPG I've enjoyed since the SNES...

Unless you count Bowser's Inside Story?

Wait, that's a lie. I enjoyed FFX even though it's main story was total trash.

Just to clarify, which one is FF4? I had Final Fantasy II on SNES which had Cecil the Dark Knight and Kain. Is that the one that is actually #4 in the series?

Chickan_117

Yes, FF4 is the one with Cecil, Kain, Rosa, Rydia, and Golbez.

It's a good game but there are other JRPGs I thought were better then FFIV such as FFVI, FFVII, FFIX, Persona 3, Persona 4, Chrono Cross and others.

I have the GBA version. I never played the DS version.

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It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

hakanakumono

XII, & XIII are better than FFIV. All post 2000.

.... dude ... My hate. For those two games, knows no limits. But even besides that I wasnt saying that they arent better than final fantasy 4 (I cant speak for the other games because ive never actually played them, and imo, XII and XIII arent even in the same league) I dont think that anyone said that the best jrpg ever came out in like the last 10 years. I think someone said FFX but that was 2001 so close enough

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It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

goblaa

Well, that's because beside the first 2 disks of FF9, there hasn't been a JRPG I've enjoyed since the SNES...

Unless you count Bowser's Inside Story?

Wait, that's a lie. I enjoyed FFX even though it's main story was total trash.

Yeah I really loved BIS, Handheld JRPGS this gen have been great... But console jrpgs... ugh. The only one that I can think of that I really loved, was Valkyria Chronicles, but Im not even sure if that really counts as an RPG

ActRaiser has been the best JRPG for many years.

its a damn good rpg. but no Earthbound, Secret of evermore, and FF6 take that honor.

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It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

hakanakumono

All 3 Xenosaga games, Suikoden III & V, Final Fantasy X, XII, & XIII are better than FFIV. All post 2000.

I thought Final Fantasy VI was?

http://games.ign.com/halloffame/final-fantasy-iii.html

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It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

texasgoldrush

All 3 Xenosaga games, Suikoden III & V, Final Fantasy X, XII, & XIII are better than FFIV. All post 2000.

Sure, FFIV is better in every department except for story, graphics, music, and gameplay.

Phantasy Star IV > all snes jrpg's.

It really sucks that I dont think anyone else in here has mentioned a game that has come after 2000 for being the best jrpg ever instead of FF4

VendettaRed07

I enjoyed Eternal Sonata and loved Crisis Core however I wouldn't say either are the BEST. The problem is that the JRPG format has been around so long it is hard for a current one to surpass it's predecessors in terms of qualifying. Most of the people who play JRPGs today are going to compare them to the ones they played years ago and it would be very difficult for a game to voercome the memories we have of first playing these games. Many of the big "breakthrus" in the genre are either WRPGs or FF13 type games. One doesn't qualify to compete with JRPGs and the other is not widely held as an example of where JRPGs should go... or even if it is a JRPG anymore.

Sure its a great game but the best, hmmm not even close.

I agree with TC. I loved FF2 on the snes. Cecil is probably my favorite FF protagonist, and the music is amazing. I think they kinda pooped out on the end though, and the final boss was easier than the random monsters you fight before it.

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I recently purchased a DSi because I was asked to be a touring guitar player for a nationwide radio tour and I take 15 flights a week and the first game I bought was FF4 because of the fond memories I have of it from my youth. It is still engaging, gripping and groundbreaking in its story and gameplay, mostly its balancing and thought that goes in to each battle. I love chrono trigger and the other FF's in that vein, but I've played a lot of JRPG's over the years and I'm gonna maintain that FF4 is still the pinnacle of the genre. Every JRPG since pulls from this game...

texasgoldrush

I remember when you got near the end in IV, that it got insanely hard with the monsters attacking like every second (on the snes version anyway). I've also played the remake version and i still found it to be an extraordianry experiance.

I reckon that FF IV along with VI still remain as some of the finest work to be created by Squaresoft ever.

I'm still hoping for a VI remake as well. Last i heard, they were having trouble remaking it for the DS and they might release it for the 3DS instead.