Is Gears of War Good Enough to Be Microsoft's Leading Exclusive Franchise?

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#51 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

is this topic about sales?

if so then my fisrt post is off base, but then again I could care less about sales as I am not a stock holder for MS, Nintendo or Sonygames, I'm a gamer.

waltefmoney

No, but those posts were.

Oh ok.

Don't get me wrong sales DO matter, I just don't use that as a factor to try to establish how good one game is vs. another, not always.

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#53 SecretPolice
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Well Microsoft right now has the best Racer-Forza AAA every time FPS- Halo AAA every time TPS- Gears AAA every time As far as exclusives Microsoft has the best in the most major genres.rybe1025
Indeed and even more impressive...

Halo with 5 AAA's in a row - Forza with 3 AAA's in a row - and if ( I gotta say, it's a very tinyif :P ) Gears 3 scores AAA then MS with 360 has the only AAA franchise FPS, TPS & Racer on the market. :shock: :P

Other than RPG's / Action Adventures, ( EDIT: I should add.. Fable is a pretty good Action Advfranchise as well, all scoing AA ) that covers my favorite genres and I dare say, most other gamers as well. :D

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#54 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I believe so! Looking at the beta, Gears3 will have nearly no flaws when it comes to gameplay and graphics. It will depend of how good are campaign and the other coop modes.

casharmy

that could be said for almost any leading franchise or high quality game, especially this year so that really isn't anything special. As a matter of fact having nearly no flaws in gameplay and graphics is a bare minimum before "I" will even consider any game to be high quality. (therefore many games rater AAA qaulity here and other places are only AA, A or lower for me)

Needless to say not many games have met my standards for high quality this gen, but gears or any other games meeting that bar doesn't mean they are special it just means they are proforming like they should, only after they meet this bar can the gameplay and mechanics prove them self to be AAA quality, but maybe that's just my opinion

Well, many AAA and even AAAA games this gen are far from flawless.

My point is that i believe Gears will surpass Halo as the leading franchise for 360 just like Uncharted series are surpassing GoW on PS3. They became more popular, got better scores and will probably sell more.

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#55 vinion2000
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OMG this leads to gears vs halo. a lot of gamers bought 360s siting one of them as the reasont to own one.

for me it was gears. having played halo on pc i wasnt sold on the 360 till i saw gears. is gears epic enough is

subjective. its certainly second major franchise and its over due a new installment. how well will gears 3 sell is

another question. they pissed off alot of gamers with gears 2, lag, glitches, region locks etc. i know alot of gear

players who have adopted a wait and see approach. having played the Beta id say its solid but i doubt we'll see

halo reach figures.

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#56 Messiahbolical-
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Good games, I don't think FLAGSHIP good though. Gears is too slow and clunky for the COD crazed masses to be that flagship title anyways.
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#58 Messiahbolical-
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Good games, I don't think FLAGSHIP good though. Gears is too slow and clunky for the COD crazed masses to be that flagship title anyways.sts106mat
Slow and clunky? thats a bit of a sly dig there, why insult it? because its successful? why not say "its slower pace and more tactical focus, makes it less appealing to the masses"

First of all I was obviously speaking for the "COD crazed masses" who often describe games like Gears, Killzone, Battlefield, and all of those games that are "aren't fast enough" for them as "slow and clunky". I wasn't speaking for my self. I LIKE the slow pace of the Gears games and any other similar type of heavier feeling shooters. Not all the time, but at every once in a while it's a nice change of pace. And second of all, why the hell do you even care to begin with? :|
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#59 NaveedLife
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Hmm not really IMO. Not when you compare it to the sales of giants such as Mario, Halo, and so on. If Gears is all they are going to have next gen then you can count me out :P. Not a fan, but I do miss playing Halo.

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#60 MFDOOM1983
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Sure, why not? It has scores and sales to be a halo like ip.
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#62 Dibdibdobdobo
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As hard as it is to admit but the piece of crud which is called Halo is MS leading exclusive. Though i hope that with a new developer working upon it that it will be vastly improved.
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#64 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I believe so! Looking at the beta, Gears3 will have nearly no flaws when it comes to gameplay and graphics. It will depend of how good are campaign and the other coop modes.

PAL360

that could be said for almost any leading franchise or high quality game, especially this year so that really isn't anything special. As a matter of fact having nearly no flaws in gameplay and graphics is a bare minimum before "I" will even consider any game to be high quality. (therefore many games rater AAA qaulity here and other places are only AA, A or lower for me)

Needless to say not many games have met my standards for high quality this gen, but gears or any other games meeting that bar doesn't mean they are special it just means they are proforming like they should, only after they meet this bar can the gameplay and mechanics prove them self to be AAA quality, but maybe that's just my opinion

Well, many AAA and even AAAA games this gen are far from flawless.

My point is that i believe Gears will surpass Halo as the leading franchise for 360 just like Uncharted series are surpassing GoW on PS3. They became more popular, got better scores and will probably sell more.

good point,

Sony still controls GoW and Uncharted however, the same cannot be said forMS with Halo, but they still have Forza.

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#65 waltefmoney
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good point,

Sony still controls GoW and Uncharted however, the same cannot be said forMS with Halo, but they still have Forza.

casharmy

Microsoft owns Halo and controls everything about the franchise. They don't own Gears though.

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#67 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

that could be said for almost any leading franchise or high quality game, especially this year so that really isn't anything special. As a matter of fact having nearly no flaws in gameplay and graphics is a bare minimum before "I" will even consider any game to be high quality. (therefore many games rater AAA qaulity here and other places are only AA, A or lower for me)

Needless to say not many games have met my standards for high quality this gen, but gears or any other games meeting that bar doesn't mean they are special it just means they are proforming like they should, only after they meet this bar can the gameplay and mechanics prove them self to be AAA quality, but maybe that's just my opinion

casharmy

Well, many AAA and even AAAA games this gen are far from flawless.

My point is that i believe Gears will surpass Halo as the leading franchise for 360 just like Uncharted series are surpassing GoW on PS3. They became more popular, got better scores and will probably sell more.

good point,

Sony still controls GoW and Uncharted however, the same cannot be said forMS with Halo, but they still have Forza.

But MS does control Halo. I think you meant gears which MS doesn't own.
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#68 vinion2000
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Sony still controls GoW and Uncharted however, the same cannot be said forMS with Halo, but they still have Forza.casharmy

Um no Microsoft Owns Halo. the game was developed for Microsoft. so even if bungie made the first one, M$ can pass it on to a next studio like 343 studios because they own it. hence why 343 studios is working on the Halo HD remake.

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#69 casharmy
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geez I stand corrected. 343 studios in control of Halo now GO IT, wasnt' tryin to give out false into there.

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#70 Solquid_Snake
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Microsoft doesn't own Gears of War.

It would be quite funny if Microsoft treated it like their leading exclusive then it ends up on the NGP and PS4!:lol:

Oh wait, didn't that happen with Mass Effect?

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#71 foxhound_fox
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What's it matter? Right now its their only decent exclusive. :P MrSelf-Destruct
Umm... Forza Motorsport much? I'd say FM is their leading franchise right now. It is highly critically received, sells well and has a big online community.
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#72 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"] I used to love Gears, but I don't think one big exclusive is enough. Plus, Gears is starting to feel stale. I went to replay Gears after playing Vanquish, and now Gears feels slow and clunky, and boring in comparison. I'll still get Gears 3, but it feels outdated now. It needs a makeover. I got my 360 for Gears and Mass Effect mainly, and now that ME is on Ps3, I definitely think a PS3 is enough for my console needs.

I started playing Vanquish during the PSN outage. What a hidden gem.
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#73 testament1
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Gears is the only 360 exclusive that is worth buying the system for. I'm a PS3/PC gamer...but I sure wish I had access to Gears.

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#74 finalstar2007
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I dont know how people like this game. Gears 2 is dead in online ( have yet to get into an online match ) and Gears 3 has one annoying feature where everyone end up in Last Stand and dont actually fully die once you use the whole clip on them... am i the only one who ends up having more downs than actual kills?.. The game is average at best even graphics arent mind blowing

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#75 finalstar2007
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Gears is the only 360 exclusive that is worth buying the system for. I'm a PS3/PC gamer...but I sure wish I had access to Gears.

testament1

Your not missing anything, i picked up a 360 myself 2 days ago and Gears is my very first game. its nothing special.. if only i can find Tales of Vesperia now thats a game i would love to play

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#78 finalstar2007
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yes thought so

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/Tales-of-Vesperia/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024e4d0805

sts106mat

I saw and i was going to pick it up but i need to look around more as $29.99 is still too much for an old game, the gears bundle with gears 1, 2 and the whole DLC for gears was $29.99 so ToV must be at least $19

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#79 JakeTD21
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Judging from the beta, I would definitely say yes. It's the most fun I've had playing a game in a long time.
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#81 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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It's just not as good as Halo is overall. However, until 343 Studios prove themselves, Gears is the leading shooter franchise.

No. It has balance issues,

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When they fixed the balance issues in Gears 2, it made the game garbage. Just sayin'. ;)
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#82 racing1750
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Halo will always be Microsoft's leading franchise.Badosh
Agreed, although Gears isn't that far behind.
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#83 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]Halo will always be Microsoft's leading franchise.racing1750
Agreed, although Gears isn't that far behind.

Until it goes multiplat, right?

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#84 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="Badosh"]Halo will always be Microsoft's leading franchise.Solquid_Snake

Agreed, although Gears isn't that far behind.

Until it goes multiplat, right?

Its going multiplat?
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#85 dommeus
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Halo will always be Microsoft's leading franchise, much like Mario is Nintendo's. Whilst Sony has had particular 'mascots' throughout its years in gaming, it doesn't really have a flagship franchise.

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#86 DarkLink77
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It's just not as good as Halo is overall. However, until 343 Studios prove themselves, Gears is the leading shooter franchise.[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

No. It has balance issues,

Guppy507
When they fixed the balance issues in Gears 2, it made the game garbage. Just sayin'. ;)

Gears 2 was just a flat out bad game. :P
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#87 no_more_fayth
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Characters are too ugly and burly.

I've been saying that for years.

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#88 Kan0nF0dder
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No, no it's not. It's a somewhat generic AA-AAA TPS series.
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#89 mD-
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Compared to Halo, yes for the people who don't like the gameplay of halo compared to other shooters. Halo Reach though has made great improvements in areas of an FPS that makes it more of a exciting experience, but stepped back with some game design issues like armor lock. I played the Gears 3 beta for some hours and it was fun. Definitely one of the most intense games you'll play on the Xbox 360. I don't know if the final product will be enough to put it at the top. I mean it's not like it really has a ton of competition (Halo, Forza, ???)

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#90 mD-
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No, no it's not. It's a somewhat generic AA-AAA TPS series.Kan0nF0dder
Proof of why generic is an over used termed. Congrats man
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#91 JayQproductions
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plain and simple, no. It needs a lot of tweaks to be the leading exclusive and for one i would like to see less character health and/or a health bar above the person's head or something so i know im at least close.

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#92 Dr_Snood
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I hope not because as much as I like gears.. it shouldn't be their stable game. Microsoft really needs to get their act together and start pumping out legit first party games that will ONLY be on their console. This E3 I better see some exclusives coming out for the 360. If I don't then I see no reason to own one next gen. If I am able to get all multiplats on a Playstation and benefit from the Playstation exclusives as well.. then my decision will be simple. Lets get some new IP's Microsoft!
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#93 Gmichels7
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You are not really going to be able to tell until the third one game out. I would have agreed with you after the first one game out, and then the previews for the 2nd one were up it looked like it was going to be an epic series. The 2nd game just didn't hold up though, and I believe that Microsoft knows this. So they have probably gone far out of their way to insure that those complaints get fixed for Gears Of War 3. If this happens, and they make a new and improved version of Gears of War 1, then I believe this will have a strong standing to becoming one of Microsoft's leading titles. I think it already holds the supreme rank for awesome video game commercials (not trailers) The use of Mad World and that Devotchka song for Gears of war 1 and 2 respectively were mind blowing.
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#94 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Good games, I don't think FLAGSHIP good though. Gears is too slow and clunky for the COD crazed masses to be that flagship title anyways.sts106mat
Slow and clunky? thats a bit of a sly dig there, why insult it? because its successful? why not say "its slower pace and more tactical focus, makes it less appealing to the masses"

Cod is more noob friendly

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#95 Badosh
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] Its going multiplat?racing1750
Not for sure, but it's highly possible.
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#96 XileLord
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Gears of War: 94% on Metacritic
Gears of war 2: 93% on Metacritic

Both games are great, series is by far my favorite shooting series of all time. Is it good enough to be Microsoft's leading exclusive franchise? Why the hell not? Sales indicate yes, reviews indicated yes and the only people who think otherwise are people who simply dislike the series, which are a very vocal minority. Those who haven't played it or have but only for a couple minutes (because they don't own a 360 or didn't buy the game) can't really say anything bad about it because they haven't gaven it a chance. I disliked the MP until I became decent at it and the campaigns in both games are great.

If it's not your cup of tea that's fine but if you want to look at the sales and reviews they both indicate it can be Microsoft's leading exclusive franchise. Gears of war 2 STILL has a active multiplayer community, and you can STILL find people to play with in Gears of War 1. The gears 3 beta has been huge, the pre-orders are breaking records.

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#97 Solquid_Snake
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Agreed, although Gears isn't that far behind.racing1750

Until it goes multiplat, right?

Its going multiplat?

How many times do I need to post this?

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/epic-games-would-love-to-put-gears-of-war-on-ps3/

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#98 Cranler
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plain and simple, no. It needs a lot of tweaks to be the leading exclusive and for one i would like to see less character health and/or a health bar above the person's head or something so i know im at least close.

JayQproductions

we already have cod for those who want easy kills.

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#99 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Agreed, although Gears isn't that far behind.racing1750

Until it goes multiplat, right?

Its going multiplat?

MS doesn't own Gears, so it is always a possibility.

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#100 MrSelf-Destruct
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Gawd, the game was such crap today. Ever since those buddy codes went out it turned into more of a shotgun fest than ever and no one is going for the objectives in KOTH or CTL. It just makes it very apparent how unbalanced the game can be if no one is willing to play the way its meant to be played. :|