Is H3: Recon needed, seriously?

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#1 Eyezonmii
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Why not just work on Halo 4?

I'm all for it, but seems like milkage, its unlike bungie to make these side stuff from an already released title. Not saying it will be bad, but the term RECON and HALO, seems forced and uncalled for.

Will this still be a FPS or something else anyways?

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#2 Ninja-Hippo
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1) Already a huge thread on this; was this needed?

2) It's one of several projects going on at bungie. This one is being worked on by a "smal, agile team" and by the guys who've been working on Halo since day one.

3) It is an FPS.

4) How can you say a game is uncalled for? :? They're just extending Halo 3, which makes sense seeing as so many people bought it and still play it. I think it's a much better idea to do what bungie are doing, releasing a steady stream of new maps and new content for a game everyone owns, rather than going years with nothing at all while making a new game.

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#3 EuroMafia
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Dunno if it will be in first person (probably), but it will be different from any other Halo game.

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#4 MotoJ19
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It's just a side alone expansion focusing on the events after earth in Halo 2.

They have a small team developing this to keep fans satisfied and i think it focuses more on the single player experience than the other Halo games have.

Bungie is also developing other projects in there studio at the current time.

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#5 jg4xchamp
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1- Its sort of a small and much earier project for Bungie. Its not one of there bigger projects(atleast I hope bigger)...

2- Its an expansion..not a 40 dollar demo.

3- Its adding to the Halo lore..

the Halo 3 MP still gets improvements, but now the Halo 3 SP people have something else to enjoy(since Halo 3s sp wasn't exactly Half Life 2 or Bioshock).

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#6 Eyezonmii
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1) Already a huge thread on this; was this needed?

2) It's one of several projects going on at bungie. This one is being worked on by a "smal, agile team" and by the guys who've been working on Halo since day one.

3) It is an FPS.

4) How can you say a game is uncalled for? :? They're just extending Halo 3, which makes sense seeing as so many people bought it and still play it. I think it's a much better idea to do what bungie are doing, releasing a steady stream of new maps and new content for a game everyone owns, rather than going years with nothing at all while making a new game.

Ninja-Hippo

lol, what?..that makes no sense, considering 1 and 2 didn't get this treatment. don't need to have an excuse to get defensive, i just want Halo 4, this side stuff usually isn't big.

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#7 ImOldGreg
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Its being built by the original Halo CE team.

Its gonna rock....

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#8 -NickJC1-
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A better question would be "Is Halo needed?"

No it's not needed, it's been terribly average since the end of the first game, if you're not tired of shooting over grown care bears in rainbow suits then ask yourself why.

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#9 Ninja-Hippo
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lol, what?..that makes no sense, considering 1 and 2 didn't get this treatment. don't need to have an excuse to get defensive, i just want Halo 4, this side stuff usually isn't big.

Eyezonmii

How am i getting defensive? If you dont want the question answered, dont ask it. :?

You asked if this game was needed, and i'm saying that doesnt make sense. When is any game "needed"?

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#10 Ninja-Hippo
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A better question would be "Is Halo needed?"

No it's not needed, it's been terribly average since the end of the first game, if you're not tired of shooting over grown care bears in rainbow suits then ask yourself why.

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Get over it already. :P

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#11 Eyezonmii
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A better question would be "Is Halo needed?"

No it's not needed, it's been terribly average since the end of the first game, if you're not tired of shooting over grown care bears in rainbow suits then ask yourself why.

-NickJC1-

Nuh, i love halo...Halo Combat Evovled is still the best one, IMO.

i just hate when developers do these side stuff and expansions or whatever.

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#12 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

1) Already a huge thread on this; was this needed?

2) It's one of several projects going on at bungie. This one is being worked on by a "smal, agile team" and by the guys who've been working on Halo since day one.

3) It is an FPS.

4) How can you say a game is uncalled for? :? They're just extending Halo 3, which makes sense seeing as so many people bought it and still play it. I think it's a much better idea to do what bungie are doing, releasing a steady stream of new maps and new content for a game everyone owns, rather than going years with nothing at all while making a new game.

Eyezonmii

lol, what?..that makes no sense, considering 1 and 2 didn't get this treatment. don't need to have an excuse to get defensive, i just want Halo 4, this side stuff usually isn't big.

It makes perfect sense ...

No game is needed, that answers your question. The point is, Halo fans have asked for it, and have been given it. That's all you need to know on the subject, if you dont like it, dont buy.

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#13 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="-NickJC1-"]

A better question would be "Is Halo needed?"

No it's not needed, it's been terribly average since the end of the first game, if you're not tired of shooting over grown care bears in rainbow suits then ask yourself why.

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Get over it already. :P

LOL, did you just use scores to shoot down someones actual opinion on the title?

thats like trying to shoot through a brick wall with spit balls.

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#14 Amit_Raj
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A better question would be "Is Halo needed?"

No it's not needed, it's been terribly average since the end of the first game, if you're not tired of shooting over grown care bears in rainbow suits then ask yourself why.

-NickJC1-

what do u mean its not needed .. obviously the fans of halo wanted it

and bungie has already stated they qwanted to do something just for their fans

and obviously it clears a lot more questions that many had , plus its providing another perspective to the war between humans and covenants ...

those who are interested in halo lore will veery much be intereted in it and will most definitely will be looking forward to it

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#15 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

1) Already a huge thread on this; was this needed?

2) It's one of several projects going on at bungie. This one is being worked on by a "smal, agile team" and by the guys who've been working on Halo since day one.

3) It is an FPS.

4) How can you say a game is uncalled for? :? They're just extending Halo 3, which makes sense seeing as so many people bought it and still play it. I think it's a much better idea to do what bungie are doing, releasing a steady stream of new maps and new content for a game everyone owns, rather than going years with nothing at all while making a new game.

ukillwegrill

lol, what?..that makes no sense, considering 1 and 2 didn't get this treatment. don't need to have an excuse to get defensive, i just want Halo 4, this side stuff usually isn't big.

It makes perfect sense ...

No game is needed, that answers your question. The point is, Halo fans have asked for it, and have been given it. That's all you need to know on the subject, if you dont like it, dont buy.

when did people ask for it? haven't seen it anywhere, from anyone or any thread. was Halo 3 that bad, i liked it.

still makes no sense, you would think people would ask it for Halo 2...lol

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#16 Ninja-Hippo
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LOL, did you just use scores to shoot down someones actual opinion on the title?

thats like trying to shoot through a brick wall with spit balls.

Eyezonmii

"Halo has been terribly average since the first game"

Reviews and just general opinion show that that obviously isnt the case. You have to back up an opinion with reason and common sense; otherwise i could tell you right now that Crysis is the worst looking game i've ever seen. You could show me a picture and i could reply "LOL did you just use pictures to shoot down my opinion on the title?"

This isnt opinion wars.

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#17 Ninja-Hippo
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when did people ask for it? haven't seen it anywhere, from anyone or any thread. was Halo 3 that bad, i liked it.

still makes no sense, you would think people would ask it for Halo 2...lol

Eyezonmii

If you read the weekly update on bnet, one of the most requested things is DLC for the campaign. That and new armour perms.

The simpe fact here is that they have a small team set aside working on this. I'd much rather have a new Halo 3 campaign than wait years for Halo 4 with nothing in between. Another quality Halo game, provided it's of the same standards as the others, is never going to be a bad thing, is it?

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#18 Amit_Raj
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[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

1) Already a huge thread on this; was this needed?

2) It's one of several projects going on at bungie. This one is being worked on by a "smal, agile team" and by the guys who've been working on Halo since day one.

3) It is an FPS.

4) How can you say a game is uncalled for? :? They're just extending Halo 3, which makes sense seeing as so many people bought it and still play it. I think it's a much better idea to do what bungie are doing, releasing a steady stream of new maps and new content for a game everyone owns, rather than going years with nothing at all while making a new game.

Eyezonmii

lol, what?..that makes no sense, considering 1 and 2 didn't get this treatment. don't need to have an excuse to get defensive, i just want Halo 4, this side stuff usually isn't big.

It makes perfect sense ...

No game is needed, that answers your question. The point is, Halo fans have asked for it, and have been given it. That's all you need to know on the subject, if you dont like it, dont buy.

when did people ask for it? haven't seen it anywhere, from anyone or any thread. was Halo 3 that bad, i liked it.

still makes no sense, you would think people would ask it for Halo 2...lol

common sense would suggest to check out the official bungie forums for that

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#19 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

1) Already a huge thread on this; was this needed?

2) It's one of several projects going on at bungie. This one is being worked on by a "smal, agile team" and by the guys who've been working on Halo since day one.

3) It is an FPS.

4) How can you say a game is uncalled for? :? They're just extending Halo 3, which makes sense seeing as so many people bought it and still play it. I think it's a much better idea to do what bungie are doing, releasing a steady stream of new maps and new content for a game everyone owns, rather than going years with nothing at all while making a new game.

Eyezonmii

lol, what?..that makes no sense, considering 1 and 2 didn't get this treatment. don't need to have an excuse to get defensive, i just want Halo 4, this side stuff usually isn't big.

It makes perfect sense ...

No game is needed, that answers your question. The point is, Halo fans have asked for it, and have been given it. That's all you need to know on the subject, if you dont like it, dont buy.

when did people ask for it? haven't seen it anywhere, from anyone or any thread. was Halo 3 that bad, i liked it.

still makes no sense, you would think people would ask it for Halo 2...lol

I always here people asking for more Halo games, and complaining that the story in Halo 3 was lacking. Put them both together and this is what you get, an expansion to the Halo 3 story.

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#20 BillCutting
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just the mere question is funny. There are millions of Halo fans accross the globe begging for a new game. People are excited and it will sell disks like hotcakes, so um yeah it was needed.
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#21 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

LOL, did you just use scores to shoot down someones actual opinion on the title?

thats like trying to shoot through a brick wall with spit balls.

Ninja-Hippo

"Halo has been terribly average since the first game"

Reviews and just general opinion show that that obviously isnt the case. You have to back up an opinion with reason and common sense; otherwise i could tell you right now that Crysis is the worst looking game i've ever seen. You could show me a picture and i could reply "LOL did you just use pictures to shoot down my opinion on the title?"

This isnt opinion wars.

Indeed.
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#22 ukillwegrill
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Im betting this expansion will out sell MGS4 within a month, if it gets the right marketing (The MS marketing)
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#23 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

LOL, did you just use scores to shoot down someones actual opinion on the title?

thats like trying to shoot through a brick wall with spit balls.

Ninja-Hippo

"Halo has been terribly average since the first game"

Reviews and just general opinion show that that obviously isnt the case. You have to back up an opinion with reason and common sense; otherwise i could tell you right now that Crysis is the worst looking game i've ever seen. You could show me a picture and i could reply "LOL did you just use pictures to shoot down my opinion on the title?"

This isnt opinion wars.

so his opinion (his tastes in gaming and this particular title) are wrong, because he doesn't back it up properly....so he can't hate it because he just doesn't fancy its gameplay/story and isn't to his liking?

riiiiight.

just accept his opinion next time, it isn't facts anyways. geez

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#24 cakeorrdeath
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How can anyone have a problem with a company making more content for a game many many people enjoy immensely?

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#25 Ninja-Hippo
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so his opinion (his tastes in gaming and this particular title) are wrong, because he doesn't back it up properly....so he can't hate it because he just doesn't fancy its gameplay/story and isn't to his liking?

riiiiight.

just accept his opinion next time, it isn't facts anyways. geez

Eyezonmii

:|

You cannot just blindly state an opinion without reason. If he didnt enjoy Halo, that's fine. That's his personal taste. To say "Halo isnt needed, it was average from the start" is not a statement of one's personal taste however, but a completely unfounded statement that i, or anyone else, am quite free to disagree with. And i can back up that disagreement any way i like, namely by using average review scores.

Why not let people talk about whatever they want and stop having a pop at me for no reason because i dared to answer the question that you asked? :?

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#26 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

so his opinion (his tastes in gaming and this particular title) are wrong, because he doesn't back it up properly....so he can't hate it because he just doesn't fancy its gameplay/story and isn't to his liking?

riiiiight.

just accept his opinion next time, it isn't facts anyways. geez

Ninja-Hippo

:|

You cannot just blindly state an opinion without reason. If he didnt enjoy Halo, that's fine. That's his personal taste. To say "Halo isnt needed, it was average from the start" is not a statement of one's personal taste however, but a completely unfounded statement that i, or anyone else, am quite free to disagree with. And i can back up that disagreement any way i like, namely by using average review scores.

Why not let people talk about whatever they want and stop having a pop at me for no reason because i dared to answer the question that you asked? :?

:| why not? you just said if he didn't enjoy it thats fine, well obviously he didn't if he dislikes it in the manner he showed. lol

He doesn't have to right a story, to get his opinion across. IN HIS OPINION, he thinks the game isn't needed. he doesn't fancy it, let it go.

don't try and argue it. accept it.

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LOL why is it always cows saying we don't want more Halo/ZOMG teh milkage! (but mGSFOUR is not milkage don't dare say that) :lol:

No one asks you to play it. Bungie makes quality games and thats what counts.

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#28 FunkyHeadHunter
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This will probably be locked so let me get in here...

For people complaining....DONT BUY IT IF YOU DONT WANT IT...Its that simple. Bi$%^ if you get something new B#$^^& if you dont....

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

so his opinion (his tastes in gaming and this particular title) are wrong, because he doesn't back it up properly....so he can't hate it because he just doesn't fancy its gameplay/story and isn't to his liking?

riiiiight.

just accept his opinion next time, it isn't facts anyways. geez

Eyezonmii

:|

You cannot just blindly state an opinion without reason. If he didnt enjoy Halo, that's fine. That's his personal taste. To say "Halo isnt needed, it was average from the start" is not a statement of one's personal taste however, but a completely unfounded statement that i, or anyone else, am quite free to disagree with. And i can back up that disagreement any way i like, namely by using average review scores.

Why not let people talk about whatever they want and stop having a pop at me for no reason because i dared to answer the question that you asked? :?

:| why not? you just said if he didn't enjoy it thats fine, well obviously he didn't if he dislikes it in the manner he showed. lol

He doesn't have to right a story, to get his opinion across. IN HIS OPINION, he thinks the game isn't needed. he doesn't fancy it, let it go.

don't try and argue it. accept it.

They why post it in a discussion forum if he doesn't have any intention of holding up his end of the discussion. Might as well just blog it.

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#30 pi3m4ster
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dude

this isn't a new game, it's more halo 3. and halo 3 already has the more gamescore for it than any other game. it's pure genius - bungie can easily give it the ype of a standalone game and at the same time it won't draw away from halo 3s matchmaking. and jeez who doesn't remember that halo 3 advert??

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#31 skrat_01
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Is it needed?

No.

So?

How many FPSs are needed?

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#32 haziqonfire
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Halo name sells. As I said before, Microsoft is going to use Halo as much as they can because it sells.

Though I doubt it is needed. *shrug*.

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#33 Vandalvideo
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I wouldn't necessarily say its needed, but thats not saying it couldn't be good. Bungie basically just pulled a Blue Shift on us all. Blue Shift was good in its own rights. I'm more curious if all the fanboys who scream that "LAWL EXPANSIONS DONT COUNT" will change their tune.
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#34 heretrix
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[QUOTE="-NickJC1-"]

A better question would be "Is Halo needed?"

No it's not needed, it's been terribly average since the end of the first game, if you're not tired of shooting over grown care bears in rainbow suits then ask yourself why.

Eyezonmii

Nuh, i love halo...Halo Combat Evovled is still the best one, IMO.

i just hate when developers do these side stuff and expansions or whatever.

Yeah, I hate when developers make more content for their fans. That sucks.
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#35 GabeBlack
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Why not just work on Halo 4?

I'm all for it, but seems like milkage, its unlike bungie to make these side stuff from an already released title. Not saying it will be bad, but the term RECON and HALO, seems forced and uncalled for.

Will this still be a FPS or something else anyways?

Eyezonmii

Was Half-Life 2 Episode 1 or 2 really needed?

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#36 siggy3
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It isn't needed in the sense that "the world needs it to survive", but then again, what video game is?
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#37 Spartan070
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Yesit is needed. My life is depending on it. Although this may sound sarcastic, those on the board who know me know how utterly serious I am.
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#38 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

Why not just work on Halo 4?

I'm all for it, but seems like milkage, its unlike bungie to make these side stuff from an already released title. Not saying it will be bad, but the term RECON and HALO, seems forced and uncalled for.

Will this still be a FPS or something else anyways?

GabeBlack

Was Half-Life 2 Episode 1 or 2 really needed?

If they constitute as half life 3 then definately. Half Life 2 didn't end definitively, it needed sequels.

Though I do not think H3: Recon is necessary, it is certainly not a bad thing that it should be released. The halo universe is very thick, so any additional insight into such a universe is welcome.

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#39 waynehead895
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Is any game needed?
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#40 ReverseCycology
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Is Final Fantasy Versus needed, seriesly?

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#41 GundamGuy0
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Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use.
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#42 Dante2710
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Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. GundamGuy0
Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. GundamGuy0
this is a standalone expanion, not a spin off....try again fanboy
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#43 heretrix
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Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. GundamGuy0

Geez, it's the first campaign expansion since the series launched. Exaggerate much?

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#44 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. Dante2710
Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. GundamGuy0
this is a standalone expanion, not a spin off....try again fanboy

That's how it started with Mario too, and Less we forget Halo Wars too? That's two standalone expansions right? Or is standalone expansion sort of like Console exclusive... and nonsensical...

How can it be a standalone expansion? That's contradictory... and doesn't it mean the same thing as spin-off?

Oh and lets not forget the movie either... Reminds me of a franchise known as Mario...

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#45 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. heretrix

Geez, it's the first campaign expansion since the series launched. Exaggerate much?

How do you think it started with the Mario Franchise... ?

And Halo Wars isn't an expansion of the franchise... (not the same campaign but the franchise as a whole)

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#46 Dante2710
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That's how it started with Mario too, and Less we forget Halo Wars too? That's two standalone expansions right? Or is standalone expansion sort of like Console exclusive... and nonsensical...

How can it be a standalone expansion? That's contradictory... and doesn't it mean the same thing as spin-off?

Oh and lets not forget the movie either... Reminds me of a franchise known as Mario...

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standalone meaning it will sell in stores.....halo wars has nothing to do with halo 3, why are you bringing fanboy arguements like console exclusives into this arguement? and no, expansion isnt the same thing as a spin off
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. GundamGuy0

Geez, it's the first campaign expansion since the series launched. Exaggerate much?

How do you think it started with the Mario Franchise... ?

And Halo Wars isn't an expansion of the franchise... (not the same campaign but the franchise as a whole)

I also like playing with the Snake, Kratos, etc. Sackboys in LBP. It is what it is. The bottom line, is that Halo is a successful franchise. I hope they'll be a Legos Halo too.

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#48 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]Next thing you know we'll be playing Master Chief Baseball, and Basket Ball, and Soccer/Football.... Clearly Microsoft is following the Nintendo meathod of franchise use. GundamGuy0

Geez, it's the first campaign expansion since the series launched. Exaggerate much?

How do you think it started with the Mario Franchise... ?

And Halo Wars isn't an expansion of the franchise... (not the same campaign but the franchise as a whole)

"If this all sounds straight up your alley, don't get too excited: This is "definitely not a new franchise" they say. It's "an exclamation point" on the end of theHalotrilogy while the rest of the team is hard at work on something that is, it would seem,nota part of theHalotrilogy."

Sounds like a value oriented expansion pack to me.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/10/tgs-08-bungie-details-halo-3-recon/

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#49 NinjaMunkey01
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It is just using the halo name to sell imo.

I would rather they made halo 4, but with an SP to rival Halo 1's

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#50 Dante2710
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It is just using the halo name to sell imo.

I would rather they made halo 4, but with an SP to rival Halo 1's

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are you people blind or something? Halo 3 recon.....its between halo 2 and halo 3......its a frigging expansion