Is it a fact that PC is the best Platform?

1. Best hardware

2. Best overall library

3. Mods

4. Best Controls

Anyone agree?

dude...really? Stealing sigs again?

It's the best tool for making games for the best platform (consoles).TheMoreYouOwn

dude...really? Stealing sigs again?

ChubbyGuy40

"Best" is pretty subjective.

Just like no one will be able to come up with a gameuniversally accepted as "best game ever", same thing happens with consoles.

its an opinion at best, it has the best hardware though.

In terms of overall games library, yes. Not a fan of the experience though.locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"]In terms of overall games library, yes. Not a fan of the experience though.Snyper-007

Technically and flexibility wise of course. It's more customizable, has superior graphics and processing power.

1.Price-Not even close.

2.Hackers/cheaters/pirates

3.Confusing for people who havent learned about computers.

4.Constant upgrading.

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound.

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc.

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

1.Price-Not even close.

2.Hackers/cheaters/pirates

3.Confusing for people who havent learned about computers.

4.Constant upgrading.

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound.

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc.

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

crimsonman1245

If you can afford it, yes

I like my 5 years old hardware better because it has better games

PC is best platform if your favorite genres are FPS, WRPGS and RTS thought

1.Price-Not even close.

2.Hackers/cheaters/pirates

3.Confusing for people who havent learned about computers.

4.Constant upgrading.

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound.

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc.

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

crimsonman1245

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

1.Price-Not even close.

2.Hackers/cheaters/pirates

3.Confusing for people who havent learned about computers.

4.Constant upgrading.

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound.

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc.

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

Doom_HellKnight

In terms of overall games library, yes. Not a fan of the experience though.locopatho

It provides a better gaming experience then consoles to me, or your talking about things that may impede the gaming experience but not the actual experience itself?

[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"][QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

1.Price-Not even close.

2.Hackers/cheaters/pirates

3.Confusing for people who havent learned about computers.

4.Constant upgrading.

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound.

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc.

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

locopatho

Realistically you need to spend $1200+ for a nice TV. Technically you could get away with $400 or so, but that is a diminished experience.

On PC you can also spend more or less, but the high high end is ~$1000 (HPZR30W), and the typical cost is ~$300 for a nice monitor.

You mean like every second or every millisecond.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound. crimsonman1245

I have an SD TV and no surround sound (I find sound systems the equivalent of a fifth wheel on a car) will Sony give them for free to me if I buy a PS3?

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc. crimsonman1245

You dont have to walk into a store and buy 70 euro games? God.... You must be amazing...

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

crimsonman1245

Ok...now?

its an opinion at best, it has the best hardware though.

GTSaiyanjin2

That PC is the best platform is not just a fact, it's an Empirical Law

"Empirical laws are typically conclusions based on repeated scientific experiments and simple observations, over many years, and which have become accepted universally within the gaming community."

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

1.Price-Not even close.

2.Hackers/cheaters/pirates

3.Confusing for people who havent learned about computers.

4.Constant upgrading.

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound.

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc.

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

Doom_HellKnight

My TV and surround sound is not an accesory of my gaming console, I would have it whether i had a console or not.

If i were to hook up my PC to my TV i would have to rearrange my room and buy the cable to connect them with, its not worth it for me.

You mean like every second or every millisecond.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound. crimsonman1245

I have an SD TV and no surround sound (I find sound systems the equivalent of a fifth wheel on a car) will Sony give them for free to me if I buy a PS3?

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc. crimsonman1245

You dont have to walk into a store and buy 70 euro games? God.... You must be amazing...

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

crimsonman1245

Ok...now?

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"] Yeah, and how much did that HD TV with surround sound cost? Console fanboys grasping at straws never fail to include the price of PC gaming, but always neglect to mention the price of the screen they're playing their console games on... haberman13

Realistically you need to spend $1200+ for a nice TV. Technically you could get away with $400 or so, but that is a diminished experience.

On PC you can also spend more or less, but the high high end is ~$1000 (HPZR30W), and the typical cost is ~$300 for a nice monitor.

[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"][QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

1.Price-Not even close.

2.Hackers/cheaters/pirates

3.Confusing for people who havent learned about computers.

4.Constant upgrading.

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound.

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc.

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

crimsonman1245

My TV and surround sound is not an accesory of my gaming console, I would have it whether i had a console or not.

If i were to hook up my PC to my TV i would have to rearrange my room and buy the cable to connect them with, its not worth it for me.

Its cool, but for the sake of the debate - same cable for ps3/PC

You mean like every second or every millisecond.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Consoles are just so much easier for most fans, 300 dollars gives me a PS3, Blu Ray, Controller, and i hook it up into my big screen HD TV with surround sound. crimsonman1245

I have an SD TV and no surround sound (I find sound systems the equivalent of a fifth wheel on a car) will Sony give them for free to me if I buy a PS3?

I dont have to upgrade anything, i dont have to buy a controller, a vga cable, blu ray, etc etc. crimsonman1245

You dont have to walk into a store and buy 70 euro games? God.... You must be amazing...

And i prefer games like Infamous and Uncharted over Shogun, WoW, and Civilization.

crimsonman1245

Ok...now?

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] A display solution is identical for console and PC. Either can use monitor or TV. No difference whatsoever, so eliminate that common cost from the argument.locopatho

Realistically you need to spend $1200+ for a nice TV. Technically you could get away with $400 or so, but that is a diminished experience.

On PC you can also spend more or less, but the high high end is ~$1000 (HPZR30W), and the typical cost is ~$300 for a nice monitor.

I agree with your argument, but for your every day experience a console gamer looking for a display solution is going to be considering 46" + TVs as the "target".

Thats ~$800+

On PC a 24" Dell is ~$250

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

Realistically you need to spend $1200+ for a nice TV. Technically you could get away with $400 or so, but that is a diminished experience.

On PC you can also spend more or less, but the high high end is ~$1000 (HPZR30W), and the typical cost is ~$300 for a nice monitor.

haberman13

I agree with your argument, but for your every day experience a console gamer looking for a display solution is going to be considering 46" + TVs as the "target".

Thats ~$800+

On PC a 24" Dell is ~$250

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] No, what I'm saying is you can play PC/console on TV/monitor. I have a decent monitor and nice TV. I have played PC and 360 on the monitor. I have also played PC and 360 on the TV. It's no difference, both console and PC need a "display solution", and both have identical options.locopatho

I agree with your argument, but for your every day experience a console gamer looking for a display solution is going to be considering 46" + TVs as the "target".

Thats ~$800+

On PC a 24" Dell is ~$250

Point is when talking console, since we also include monitor cost in PC, we should include average TV cost in a console purchase.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

I agree with your argument, but for your every day experience a console gamer looking for a display solution is going to be considering 46" + TVs as the "target".

Thats ~$800+

On PC a 24" Dell is ~$250

haberman13

Point is when talking console, since we also include monitor cost in PC, we should include average TV cost in a console purchase.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] The everday console gamer is playing Wii Fit and the everyday PC gamer is playing Farmville. Doesn't change reality.locopatho

Point is when talking console, since we also include monitor cost in PC, we should include average TV cost in a console purchase.

That is what I have been arguing - they aren't the same.

Avg PC: 250

Avg Console: 800

Most PC users are not PC gamers.Mr_Cumberdale

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

Point is when talking console, since we also include monitor cost in PC, we should include average TV cost in a console purchase.

haberman13

That is what I have been arguing - they aren't the same.

Avg PC: 250

Avg Console: 800

its as much of a "fact" as it is a "fact" that HBO is the best TV channel.

If it was, i would have one for gaming, i dont.

Not for me it isn't. No matter how powerful they can make it I cannot stand playing with a keyboard and mouse. It feels so unatural and uncomfortable to me. I know people say it's more accurate though and I'm not going to disagree, it's just that I don't like it. I'll stick with consoles and keep my PC for games I can't play on my console. And graphics don't matter to me that much as long as the art style is good.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

Point is when talking console, since we also include monitor cost in PC, we should include average TV cost in a console purchase.

haberman13

That is what I have been arguing - they aren't the same.

Avg PC: 250

Avg Console: 800

I've never seen a console go for 800 bucks.

Anyways, this is SW, and opinions can't be facts.

Personally yes but I still enjoy console gaming.

If we just soley on games? Yes it is, most highest rated games THIS GEN alone, best hardware too, controles are debatable as a preference thing.

It is indeed the best in terms of hardware, but arguable in terms of games. It is my favorite system, but my top 2 games this gen are on PS3. Not to say that PC doesnt have amazing games :).