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#1 Blackbond
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I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal? 

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#2 fatzombiepigeon
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Sony doesn't need NA or Japan to dominate.
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#3 Pangster007
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Looks like it.

I just can't see PS3/360 even touching the Wii in Japan now. Japan has become Nintendoland.

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Well, my take on it is that their are 33% HDTV's in Japan, all Sony has to do is get compelling HD Content and bam, they are back in....not to mention strong Online gaming console.

M$ is doing actually a ton worse that SONY is Japan, so Sony knowing that is going to help them maintain a strong second.

The Wii's achilles heel is that it doesn't provide the NEXT GEN graphic Experience(And strong Online Presence) so when the Price comes down, and the Games are a plenty, Sony will should start doing better?

Can the catch the Wii? In a year or two maybe.

But they will definately have a strong Presence in Japan as a The ONLY HD Machine out there, and that is HUGE for Next Gen. Graphics, Online Gaming(For Free since M$ is has flopped out there),  and HDTV fans.

So, no, It isn't a wrap for Sony in Japan. We already knew this though, they system is brand new...

I can say that even if they don't conquer Japan, due to the Wii, Game Developers are going to gravitate to the PS3 once they have had their fun with the Wii, as it will be a completely different machine.

All Sony has to do is capatalize on Nintendo's Weakness' and get the price down. 

One other good thing for Sony, is BLU-RAY is the only major HD format out there. 

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Blackbond do you have a crystal ball and sony might improved in the future in japan
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Well that'd be true if it wouldn't take just one title to boost PS3 sales there, though it's really lacking atm.
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Sony doesn't need NA or Japan to dominate.fatzombiepigeon
What??!?!?!?!?
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If it is, than I'd say the 360 has been wrapped and placed under the tree months ago.
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Well, my take on it is that their are 33% HDTV's in Japan, all Sony has to do is get compelling HD Content and bam, they are back in....not to mention strong Online gaming console.

M$ is doing actually a ton worse that SONY is Japan, so Sony knowing that is going to help them maintain a strong second.

The Wii's achilles heel is that it doesn't provide the NEXT GEN graphic Experience(And strong Online Presence) so when the Price comes down, and the Games are a plenty, Sony will should start doing better?

Can the catch the Wii? In a year or two maybe.

But they will definately have a strong Presence in Japan as a The ONLY HD Machine out there, and that is HUGE for Next Gen. Graphics and HDTV fans.

So, no, It isn't a wrap for Sony in Japan. We already knew this though, they system is brand new...

SolidTy

Although you make a lot of since, I can't see that weighing the Wii down much, if for nothing other than the fact that it's marketing and popularity is insane. I don't see how Sony or MS can steal a lot of hype away with anything other than major game releases like Halo 3 and MGS.

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In all seriousness, practically nothing short of divine intervention would work at this point.
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Blackbond do you have a crystal ball and sony might improved in the future in japanTnasty11
I'm pretty sure Sony will improve (not hard tbh), but i can hardly see it catching up to the Wii.
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I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal? 

Blackbond


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

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If it is, than I'd say the 360 has been wrapped and placed under the tree years ago.purplemidgets

fixed for accurate timeline. 

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal? 

greg_splicer


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

:|

I am a lemming, but when the ---- did SE confirm multiplat status?

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal?

greg_splicer


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

Again, I want to know, how you do know that the main FF XIII is multiplat. And if BD didn't go well what makes you think the rest will make it much better?

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greg_splicer when did square enix announce that ff 13 is coming to 360
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[QUOTE="purplemidgets"]If it is, than I'd say that Microsoft has been wrapped and placed under the tree years ago.Socrates88

fixed for accurate timeline. 

Re-edited.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal?

fatzombiepigeon


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

:|

I am a lemming, but when the ---- did SE confirm multiplat status?

 

It hasn't.  He's been saying this for weeks yet no gaming site has reported it.  The FF13 universe and various games are multiplat, yet the main game is still PS3 exclusive.   

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M$ is doing actually a ton worse that SONY is Japan, so Sony knowing that is going to help them maintain a strong second.SolidTy

Doing better than an Xbox platform in Japan is nothing write home about. Even Sega could released a brick with game brick written on it and it would outsell the 360, much less Sony and Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal?

fatzombiepigeon


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

:|

I am a lemming, but when the ---- did SE confirm multiplat status?

ignore him. his has not proving it yet. He's very misinform about the other FFXIII spin-off going multi-plat, but not the FFXIII orginal title. Yet, they still haven't confirmed what consoles.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal?

tegovoltio


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

Again, I want to know, how you do know that the main FF XIII is multiplat. And if BD didn't go well what makes you think the rest will make it much better?

They didn't announce FFXIII was multiplat, they announced that FFXIII is going to be a continual series for the next 5-10 years, and that the series is MULTIPLAT.

Not FFXIII itself, SE has yet to say that. That's Nanos and he always types funny/crazy stuff. 

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Pay to get DQ X

 

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Sony doesn't need NA or Japan to dominate.fatzombiepigeon


Yeah... and they don't need Europe either... :roll:

Sony better pull something amazing out of their rears soon or the PS3 may not even sell as much as the 3DO.
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal?

Socrates88


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

:|

I am a lemming, but when the ---- did SE confirm multiplat status?

ignore him. his has not proving it yet. He's very misinform about the other FFXIII spin-off going multi-plat, but not the FFXIII orginal title. Yet, they still haven't confirmed what consoles.

What's even exciting about a spinoff?
What FF spinoff has actually been a major success for ANY console?

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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]Sony doesn't need NA or Japan to dominate.foxhound_fox


Yeah... and they don't need Europe either... :roll:

Sony better pull something amazing out of their rears soon or the PS3 may not even sell as much as the 3DO.

They don't need Europe either fanboy.

;)

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They didn't announce FFXIII was multiplat, they announced that FFXIII is going to be a continual series for the next 5-10 years, and that the series is MULTIPLAT.

Not FFXIII itself, SE has yet to say that. That's Nanos and he always types funny/crazy stuff.

SolidTy

I know that, just that I saw the same in another thread. 

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Pay to get DQ X

 

Nike_Air

That would be one hell of a big check.  

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"] M$ is doing actually a ton worse that SONY is Japan, so Sony knowing that is going to help them maintain a strong second.Sir_Graham

Doing better than an Xbox platform in Japan is nothing write home about. Even Sega could released a brick with game brick written on it and it would outsell the 360, much less Sony and Nintendo.

I do realize that, my point was since the PS3 and Wii philophies are so different and radical, Developers have a completely different alternative when done with Wii games. For Developers like SE that love graphics, the 360 looks more enticing than the Wii for some of their games, however, being that the PS3 is more Dominant, that leaves Sony in a great position as a strong second(In Japan of course.).

The other hurdle, is the Wii is almost in a different category than the 360/PS3, so the Wii outselling the PS3 doesn't necessarily hurt the PS3 yet.

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What's even exciting about a spinoff?
What FF spinoff has actually been a major success for ANY console?

fatzombiepigeon

I don't know. I stop playing RPGs after Vagrant Story. However, I will buy FFXIII because it reminds me alot of FFVII. 

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Pay to get DQ X

 

cakeorrdeath

That would be one hell of a big check.

Well, a console is getting it, and it ain't going to be on a handheld, mark my words. 

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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Pay to get DQ X

 

SolidTy

That would be one hell of a big check.

Well, a console is getting it, and it ain't going to be on a handheld, mark my words. 

Well they are getting a DQ on the DSLite....

but the actual sequel is probably Wii.

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Well, a console is getting it, and it ain't going to be on a handheld, mark my words.

SolidTy

 

How do you know that? Why would they go anywhere except the DS when it is clearly the platform that will make them the biggest profit?

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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Pay to get DQ X

 

SolidTy

That would be one hell of a big check.

Well, a console is getting it, and it ain't going to be on a handheld, mark my words.

If it's going to console the only possibility is Wii. 

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Pay to get DQ X

 

cakeorrdeath

That would be one hell of a big check.

Indeed. But they have to do something right ? Maybe instead they could get Mistwalker to make a couple of rpgs for them. Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey would have been system sellers on the ps3. Curse you Microsoft. :P

 

 

 

 

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When is the Sega Game Brick coming out? I want to bash in some sheepcowlem heads with it.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, a console is getting it, and it ain't going to be on a handheld, mark my words.

cakeorrdeath

 

How do you know that? Why would they go anywhere except the DS when it is clearly the platform that will make them the biggest profit?

SE won't be content to leave the series on a handheld, it would lose visibility, and furthermore, they have to think of the future. DQ9 is a tide them over, get our money on a handheld, like we've seen before with Metroid 2 and MGS on Gameboy, and MGS portable on PSP.

It's not just going to keep going on handhelds, that craszy talk. Crazy talk.

So, enjoy DQ9, I know I will, but that will be the only main DQ title for a long while to grace handhelds, as it is a temp fix until the consoles establish a bigger fanbase.

How do I know? It's common sense. 

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Pay to get DQ X

 

Iyethar

That would be one hell of a big check.

Well, a console is getting it, and it ain't going to be on a handheld, mark my words.

If it's going to console the only possibility is Wii.

Probably, but it's getting the heck of handhelds after DQ9 DS is done. 

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#38 Socrates88
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, a console is getting it, and it ain't going to be on a handheld, mark my words.

SolidTy

 

How do you know that? Why would they go anywhere except the DS when it is clearly the platform that will make them the biggest profit?

SE won't be content to leave the series on a handheld, it would lose visibility, and furthermore, they have to think of the future. DQ9 is a tide them over, get our money on a handheld, like we've seen before with Metroid 2 and MGS on Gameboy, and MGS portable on PSP.

It's not just going to keep going on handhelds, that craszy talk. Crazy talk.

So, enjoy DQ9, I know I will, but that will be the only main DQ title for a long while to grace handhelds, as it is a temp fix until the consoles establish a bigger fanbase.

How do I know? It's common sense.

I agree leaving DQ series on a hand-held is not going to happen. Wishful thinking. 

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Indeed. But they have to do something right ? Maybe instead they could get Mistwalker to make a couple of rpgs for them. Blue Dragon and Lost Oyssey would have been system sellers on the ps3. Curse you Microsoft. :P

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I see no reason why Mistwalker couldn't make a new JRPG for Sony. They are a completely independant developer. MS just happens to be publishing two of their games. The only problem is it probably won't be for sometime as MS in monopolising most of their resources for the forseeable future.

I believe they are making a DS game though.

 

The problem the PS3 has is that the big name titles for Japan still seem to be a long way away. And be the time they do arrive and PS3 sales improve development resource from the big Japanese publishers may have already been refocused on to the likes of the DS and Wii.

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I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal? 

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I thought FF and MGS4 were 07 titles in Japan while 08 in the states.

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal?

callmewaffle

I thought FF and MGS4 were 07 titles in Japan while 08 in the states.

 

FYI: MGS series gets release in US before Japan ever since MGS2. 

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SE won't be content to leave the series on a handheld, it would lose visibility, and furthermore, they have to think of the future. DQ9 is a tide them over, get our money on a handheld, like we've seen before with Metroid 2 and MGS on Gameboy, and MGS portable on PSP.

It's not just going to keep going on handhelds, that craszy talk. Crazy talk.

So, enjoy DQ9, I know I will, but that will be the only main DQ title for a long while to grace handhelds, as it is a temp fix until the consoles establish a bigger fanbase.

How do I know? It's common sense.

SolidTy

 

How is launching a game on the fastest selling gaming device i of all time going to make itlose visability? DQIX sales will likely outstrip the sales of any DQ game before ever.

I really don't think you appreciate the gaming situation in Japan. DS is a monstrosity and not thought of as lesser to anything.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

SE won't be content to leave the series on a handheld, it would lose visibility, and furthermore, they have to think of the future. DQ9 is a tide them over, get our money on a handheld, like we've seen before with Metroid 2 and MGS on Gameboy, and MGS portable on PSP.

It's not just going to keep going on handhelds, that craszy talk. Crazy talk.

So, enjoy DQ9, I know I will, but that will be the only main DQ title for a long while to grace handhelds, as it is a temp fix until the consoles establish a bigger fanbase.

How do I know? It's common sense.

cakeorrdeath

 

How is launching a game on the fastest selling gaming device i of all time going to make itlose visability? DQIX sales will likely outstrip the sales of any DQ game before ever.

I really don't think you appreciate the gaming situation in Japan. DS is a monstrosity and not thought of as lesser to anything.

Perhaps...I am basing this on Gaming history, and although Handhelds are on the rise, I don't see SE artists, etc. being content on the hardware. It will be interesting to see if what you say about the DS being a monstrosity is true. Either you are overstating Handhelds role for the future, or you are right, and Consoles are dying. 

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Sony is never a wrap. It will take you by storm when you least expect it. :twisted:
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I mean its literally getting crushed in Japan. Last week it got outsold almost 7:1 :(

The PS3's big guns aren't coming out until 08. I'm talking FFXIII and MGS4 (unless dates have been changed) By this time the Wii at this pace will have a very large lead. Lets look at it this way. At the current rate things are going the Wii is completly obliterating the PS3 in Japan. Even if the PS3 sales start to beat out the Wii on a weekly basis does it seriously have a chance to turn the tides by at one point outselling the Wii at the same margin its been being outsold by right now? If the PS3 continues to be outsold by margines of 5:1, 6:1, 7:1 its not going to beat out the Wii if it turns out to start outselling the Wii 2:1, 3:1 ect. Its going to have to convincingly beat it. How is the PS3 supposed to accomplish this against the Wii and its mass demographic appeal?

Socrates88


Now add the fact that FF13 is coming to xbox 360, since they confirmed it as multiplatform, and that a gamer in japan
can buy a xbox 360 with FF13, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Indiscovery, Cry On, Blue Dragon 1-2, Circle fo Doom etc
that NONE is for PS3, and PS3 will start selling lower than 360 eventually, they are really close already

:|

I am a lemming, but when the ---- did SE confirm multiplat status?

ignore him. his has not proving it yet. He's very misinform about the other FFXIII spin-off going multi-plat, but not the FFXIII orginal title. Yet, they still haven't confirmed what consoles.

They said the WHOLE series goes multiplatform, meaning FF13 on 360, there is nothing to debate here, and while the rumor is around the net for a month now, Sony or Square did not come say it is not, so it is clearly coming

Of course you could be right, and the multiplatform was refering ONLY to the other titles in the series, BUT they never said anything like that, soi could be wrong but so could you, and i be right

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Perhaps...I am basing this on Gaming history, and although Handhelds are on the rise, I don't see SE artists, etc. being content on the hardware. It will be interesting to see if what you say about the DS being a monstrosity is true. Either you are overstating Handhelds role for the future, or you are right, and Consoles are dying.

SolidTy

No DQ game has ever been at the cutting edge of graphics. I also think you give to much power to the creative people and not enough to the money men. Unless your name is Kojima you in large part have to do what you are told.

 

We are only talking about Japan here and there is no reason to presume that a handheld becoming the dominant player means that consoles are dying.

 

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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

SE won't be content to leave the series on a handheld, it would lose visibility, and furthermore, they have to think of the future. DQ9 is a tide them over, get our money on a handheld, like we've seen before with Metroid 2 and MGS on Gameboy, and MGS portable on PSP.

It's not just going to keep going on handhelds, that craszy talk. Crazy talk.

So, enjoy DQ9, I know I will, but that will be the only main DQ title for a long while to grace handhelds, as it is a temp fix until the consoles establish a bigger fanbase.

How do I know? It's common sense.

SolidTy

 

How is launching a game on the fastest selling gaming device i of all time going to make itlose visability? DQIX sales will likely outstrip the sales of any DQ game before ever.

I really don't think you appreciate the gaming situation in Japan. DS is a monstrosity and not thought of as lesser to anything.

Perhaps...I am basing this on Gaming history, and although Handhelds are on the rise, I don't see SE artists, etc. being content on the hardware. It will be interesting to see if what you say about the DS being a monstrosity is true. Either you are overstating Handhelds role for the future, or you are right, and Consoles are dying.

What? of course he's overstating it. Handhelds always been popular in Japan. Gameboy: Pocket, Color, Mini, Pokemon. DQ 10 will be on a console. DQ 9 will be on a console too once SE knows which console to port it to. If main RPGs would've switch to handhelds, it would've done it a long time ago.  

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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

SE won't be content to leave the series on a handheld, it would lose visibility, and furthermore, they have to think of the future. DQ9 is a tide them over, get our money on a handheld, like we've seen before with Metroid 2 and MGS on Gameboy, and MGS portable on PSP.

It's not just going to keep going on handhelds, that craszy talk. Crazy talk.

So, enjoy DQ9, I know I will, but that will be the only main DQ title for a long while to grace handhelds, as it is a temp fix until the consoles establish a bigger fanbase.

How do I know? It's common sense.

SolidTy

 

How is launching a game on the fastest selling gaming device i of all time going to make itlose visability? DQIX sales will likely outstrip the sales of any DQ game before ever.

I really don't think you appreciate the gaming situation in Japan. DS is a monstrosity and not thought of as lesser to anything.

Perhaps...I am basing this on Gaming history, and although Handhelds are on the rise, I don't see SE artists, etc. being content on the hardware. It will be interesting to see if what you say about the DS being a monstrosity is true. Either you are overstating Handhelds role for the future, or you are right, and Consoles are dying.

He is not saying that at all, he was talking about the current state of the market. (And he pointed that out)

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What? of course he's overstating it. Handhelds always been popular in Japan. Gameboy: Pocket, Color, Mini, Pokemon. DQ 10 will be on a console. DQ 9 will be on a console too once SE knows which console to port it to. If main RPGs would've switch to handhelds, it would've done it a long time ago.

Socrates88

 

The DS is so much more popular in Japan than any system ever. The main RPG has already switched to handheld it's there. DQIX is a DS game. I fail to see why there will be a miraculous turn around in a few years time.

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The problem isn't only in PS3 hardware numbers in Japan, but in Japanese developer support. If PS3 continues the way it is going in Japan, they will all go to the Wii.Â