Is it just me or is Reach not much better looking than Halo 3?

All the hype over Reach's graphics is leaving me scratching my head. I just don't see any improvements other than the character models. I realise the game isn't finished and the end product can look alot better, but as of right now, why in the hell are you people acting like this will be some graphical marvel? Now Alan Wake I can understand, but no screens or videos of Reach released thus far have given any indication that it will be.

Wow a PS3 fan trying to bash Halo Reach how original. I swear cows seem to fear Halo right down to their core.

Reach looks like halo3 just like GoW3 looks like GoW2.

deja-vu. Could have sworn I saw some one made a same post that halo reach didnt look better halo 3.

How am I bashing it? I'm asking a simple question: Why in the HELL are you people acting like Reach will be a graphical marvel when there has been no indication that it will be?

All the hype over Reach's graphics is leaving me scratching my head. I just don't see any improvements other than the character models. I realise the game isn't finished and the end product can look alot better, but as of right now, why in the hell are you people acting like this will be some graphical marvel? Now Alan Wake I can understand, but no screens or videos of Reach released thus far have given any indication that it will be.

Master_ShakeXXX

I do think the water looks a bit better in Reach.

But in the end its still graphics, so it really doesn't matter at all.

No it's not just you. But then again, I never expected a "graphical marvel".

It seems though that they are more focused on making the gameplay "fresh" again rather than graphics.

Reach looks like halo3 just like GoW3 looks like GoW2.

topgunmv

How about we wait for the game to come out

Reach looks like halo3 just like GoW3 looks like GoW2.

topgunmv

Overstatement of the year. GoW3 looks almost infinitely better than GoW2, while Reach looks minimally better than Halo 3. Only the biggest lems would deny that.

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Reach looks like halo3 just like GoW3 looks like GoW2.

Master_ShakeXXX

Overstatment of the year. GoW3 looks almost infinitly better than GoW2, while Reach looks minimally better than Halo 3. Only the biggest lems would deny that.

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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Reach looks like halo3 just like GoW3 looks like GoW2.

R3FURBISHED

Overstatment of the year. GoW3 looks almost infinitly better than GoW2, while Reach looks minimally better than Halo 3. Only the biggest lems would deny that.

Could have fooled me...

That vidoc proves that it looks much better and it's only alpha.

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Reach looks like halo3 just like GoW3 looks like GoW2.

Master_ShakeXXX

Overstatment of the year. GoW3 looks almost infinitly better than GoW2, while Reach looks minimally better than Halo 3. Only the biggest lems would deny that.

Could have fooled me...

Master_ShakeXXX

I'm a Halo fan, a BIG one. But not a lemming, I'm pretty sure I proved that when I bought my PS3 (my backwards compatible PS3) last weekend.

On topic though -- That sounds great, funny thing is I am pretty sure that Bungie said the same lines about Halo 3 water and it turned out to be one of the best looking aspects of Halo 3

Making a Splash

I definitely don't get as moist looking at our water tech as our old pal Frankie did. I'm more of a gameplay sort of guy. When I go wading into the engine, I wanna know about stuff like field of view, rate of fire, and how the current health and shield systems function. But I can't deny that the H2O rolling out of Powerhouse is pretty slick and impressive. It certainly warrants a trickle of lip service.

From the dam spillway beneath Powerhouse's catwalks, crystal clear water now pours through metal grating, splashing down into the concrete channel below. From there it playfully rolls through the narrow outlet, a vibrant rush of shimmering aquamarine that, to my amazement, appears to pick up tints and tones from the surrounding concrete before making a swift, foamy run down the sun soaked chute into the large, central pool below.

Goldsworthy tells me that my mind may be playing tricks on me. Though the water is in a near final state, the effects I'm imagining are really a technical mixture of bump mapping, tessellation, and other technical tricks that are apparently well outside the realm of my understanding. Explains the confused look on my face as he sloshed the details my way.

All I know is that it looks incredible. The reflection and shimmering atop the water is naturally more visible and pronounced where the sunlight skins the surface and the refraction adds a near photo-realistic and completely hypnotic effect to the water whether I'm peering out across it or leering down through it. The waves rhythmically lap, swell, and undulate. Hell, I think I even saw a rainbow forming in some mist. No joke.

Cows are so ridiculous. Obviously haven't bothered looking at any of the tech demos or Reach Alpha footage, so why should they be able to judge what the game looks like? KittenWishes

I have watched them. Why would I start a debate like this without doing any research? Please point out these giant graphical leaps between Halo 3 and Reach. I'm dieing to see them.

Don't worry, its just you.

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]Cows are so ridiculous. Obviously haven't bothered looking at any of the tech demos or Reach Alpha footage, so why should they be able to judge what the game looks like? Master_ShakeXXX

I have watched them. Why would I start a debate like this without doing any research? Please point out these giant graphical leaps between Halo 3 and Reach. I'm dieing to see them.

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]Cows are so ridiculous. Obviously haven't bothered looking at any of the tech demos or Reach Alpha footage, so why should they be able to judge what the game looks like? Master_ShakeXXX

I have watched them. Why would I start a debate like this without doing any research? Please point out these giant graphical leaps between Halo 3 and Reach. I'm dieing to see them.

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]Cows are so ridiculous. Obviously haven't bothered looking at any of the tech demos or Reach Alpha footage, so why should they be able to judge what the game looks like? Master_ShakeXXX

I have watched them. Why would I start a debate like this without doing any research? Please point out these giant graphical leaps between Halo 3 and Reach. I'm dieing to see them.

Well this is the newest screenshot of Reach, and I think it looks amazing.

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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]Cows are so ridiculous. Obviously haven't bothered looking at any of the tech demos or Reach Alpha footage, so why should they be able to judge what the game looks like? R3FURBISHED

I have watched them. Why would I start a debate like this without doing any research? Please point out these giant graphical leaps between Halo 3 and Reach. I'm dieing to see them.

Well this is the newest screenshot of Reach, and I think it looks amazing.

Is that a real screenshot, because I have not seen that and agree, it does look amazing.

Is that a real screenshot, because I have not seen that and agree, it does look amazing.

Master_ShakeXXX

I'm pretty sure it's a photo.

Well this is the newest screenshot of Reach, and I think it looks amazing.

R3FURBISHED

Yeah, no way in hell that's real. That looks like something from Crysis.

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Is that a real screenshot, because I have not seen that and agree, it does look amazing.

Esnedon

I'm pretty sure it's a photo.

I couldn't resist, that is actually the Warthog that Weta studios created for the Halo videos from a couple years back.

They increased the level of detail on evreything. Guns, characters and vehicles have more pollys, particle effects, better ligthing etc.

But i doubt its the 360s best looking game.

I love it when people come here on these forums and use graphics as a cheap excuse to bash Halo, ignoring every other factor that makes the series enjoyable to play.

Also please don't tell me you can't tell the difference between this.

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If you cannot, seek help from an optometrist.

Yeah, no way in hell that's real. That looks like something from Crysis.

Master_ShakeXXX

It doesn't look like a game at all. It's got photo artifacts all over it.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Is that a real screenshot, because I have not seen that and agree, it does look amazing.

R3FURBISHED

I'm pretty sure it's a photo.

I couldn't resist, that is actually the Warthog that Weta studios created for the Halo videos from a couple years back.

Lol i remember those vids... Looked like some power rangers stuff lol :D

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I have watched them. Why would I start a debate like this without doing any research? Please point out these giant graphical leaps between Halo 3 and Reach. I'm dieing to see them.

Master_ShakeXXX

Well this is the newest screenshot of Reach, and I think it looks amazing.

Is that a real screenshot, because I have not seen that and agree, it does look amazing.

thats from neil blomkamps landfall trailer for halo 3 back on 07. sadly, neil blomkamp was suppose to the halo movie with peter jacskon but it never happen(mostly like cause of financial issues and that is when district 9 came in) . The warthog was made from Weta Workshop. Not sure if they made, the odst armor, marine armor, and the halo weapons.

Also please don't tell me you can't tell the difference between this.

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If you cannot, seek help from an optometrist.

Vesica_Prime

One isn't rendered in-game and only shows a small area. Can you guess?

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Yeah, no way in hell that's real. That looks like something from Crysis.

Esnedon

It doesn't look like a game at all. It's got photo artifacts all over it.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/video/6174402/halo-3-halo-movie-clip-5?hd=1&tag=videos;hd;3There is the video it's from. That was created back when the Halo movie was still a 'maybe'

Ah, you sly dog you. If that WAS a real screenshot I would have thrown up my hands and declared Reach the graphics king of ALL games, console and PC.

I don't get what vehicles or slit screen have to do with the graphics though. :|Messiahbolical-

Split screen has plenty to do with technical graphics. Obviously when you have the action ramped up by up to 4 times you sure as hell don't want to run into slow texture loads and framerate issues.

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Also please don't tell me you can't tell the difference between this.

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If you cannot, seek help from an optometrist.

Esnedon

One isn't rendered in-game and only shows a small area. Can you guess?

And your proof is :roll: ? I've shown screenshots from the official Bungie website, you on the other hand have not got any information and only have your biased opinion. Plus if you call those screenshots renders, then it is actually showing in-game assets (e.g models, textures) which prove that Halo Reach does look better than Halo 3.

Vesica_Prime

I can see the improvements. I'm not blind. I just don't think they're very big as of yet.

Okay that screenshot looks good for the most part... but look at those HIDEOUS ground and mountain textures. :| Everything looks flat in Reach. The grass and pebbles on the ground look spraypainted on and those rocks where the sunlight is shining through look like big gray pieces of plastic. Take away the (admittedly good) lighting and this game would honestly look pretty bad... The graphics in this game remind me a lot of MGS4. Which isn't a good thing to me. MGS4's graphics were soooo overrated. Only thing that looked good were the character models and the lighting.Messiahbolical-

Thing is I'm not trying to prove Halo Reach is a graphics king. Just showing that Halo Reach is more visually impressive than Halo 3.

Okay that screenshot looks good for the most part... but look at those HIDEOUS ground and mountain textures. :| Everything looks flat in Reach. The grass and pebbles on the ground look spraypainted on and those rocks where the sunlight is shining through look like big gray pieces of plastic. Take away the (admittedly good) lighting and this game would honestly look pretty bad... The graphics in this game remind me a lot of MGS4. Which isn't a good thing to me. MGS4's graphics were soooo overrated. Only thing that looked good were the character models and the lighting.Messiahbolical-

Well that's what you get when you go off of pre-alpha screens; a glorious lack of detail and all the place holders in the world thrown into one shot. Bungie keeps saying that that is a draw back of showing off a game when it is in such an early stage of development. And it is.

If this looks like H3 then KZ2 looks like first resistance.

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Also please don't tell me you can't tell the difference between this.

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to this

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If you cannot, seek help from an optometrist.

Vesica_Prime

One isn't rendered in-game and only shows a small area. Can you guess?

And your proof is :roll: ? I've shown screenshots from the official Bungie website, you on the other hand have not got any information and only have your biased opinion. Plus if you call those screenshots renders, then it is actually showing in-game assets (e.g models, textures) which prove that Halo Reach does look better than Halo 3.

I'm not saying the final game won't look better than Halo 3, but I think it's a bit unfair to compare a horrible Halo 3 shot to a pre-rendered (I don't think it ACTUALLY runs at 1920x1080 with 16xAA) shot of Halo Reach. I know you were just trying to prove your point, but Halo 3 deserves WAAAAAY more credit than that.

If this looks like H3 then KZ2 looks like first resistance. Magik85

But that does look like Halo 3! Lordy, I must be going crazy.