Is it safe to assume X360 > PS3 in terms of graphics capabilities?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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since multiplats seem to be the only objective factors in graphics comparison... do you think its safe to assume; X360 fans have the most powerful console graphically this generation?

or you still believe dev needs more time with the PS3 even this late in the generation?

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#2 ActicEdge
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PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

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#3 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

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Pretty much, and if there is a difference -- vast majority of the time it's negligible.
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No, damnit, don't say that unless you want it torn apart here!

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#5 jarhead20
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Even if one of them is better than the other graphically it would be by a very little margin and barely noticeable for the regular gamer..

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#6 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

Stevo_the_gamer

Pretty much, and if there is a difference -- vast majority of the time it's negligible.

Oh, but apparently the tiny blurry texture in DMC4 PS3 makes it vastly inferior. Or how about those jaggies in the 360 version of GTA4. Big differences I tell you, we should all analyze the pics for hours instead of playing the games, that makes more sense.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

ActicEdge

Pretty much, and if there is a difference -- vast majority of the time it's negligible.

Oh, but apparently the tiny blurry texture in DMC4 PS3 makes it vastly inferior. Or how about those jaggies in the 360 version of GTA4. Big differences I tell you, we should all analyze the pics for hours instead of playing the games, that makes more sense.

It's much more fun.:P

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#8 EVOLV3
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Exclusives are the games that truely show a consoles graphical capabilities since they are built ground up for the platform. And since PS3 exclusive almost always tend to outperform 360 exclusives in terms of graphics its PS3>360 in graphics capabilities.

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#9 emorainbo
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Even if one of them is better than the other graphically it would be by a very little margin and barely noticeable for the regular gamer..

jarhead20

And thats whenever you are analyzing pics. Whenever you are actually playing the game you will never notice a difference.

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#10 XaosII
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Not really. They are both roughly comparable systems.

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#11 PS3Gamer_1
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since multiplats seem to be the only objective factors in graphics comparison... do you think its safe to assume; X360 fans have the most powerful console graphically this generation?

or you still believe dev needs more time with the PS3 even this late in the generation?

Mystery_Writer
Really? It's late in the generation? Maybe if we base it off of the oiriginal XBOX lifetime. But PS3 has only begun. And for the most part graphic differences are negligible. You do get the occasional Ghostbuster fiasco, but for the most part they are the same. Both 360 and PS3 have great games........why can't people just play games not scores, sales, or consoles?
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#12 LosDaddie
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Nope.

Both consoles are equal to each other. Everyone but fanboys have already realized this.

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#13 Mystery_Writer
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Exclusives are the games that truely show a consoles graphical capabilities since they are built ground up for the platform. And since PS3 exclusive almost always tend to outperform 360 exclusives in terms of graphics its PS3>360 in graphics capabilities.

EVOLV3

it seems, from what we've seen of multiplats, PS3 exclusives would have looked better if they were done on X360 hardware.

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#14 shutdown_202
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Not really.

So far, the best PS3 exclusive graphics looks better than the best Xbox exclusive. The best PS3 exclusive also looks better than the best multiplat out between the consoles. I would say that so far it would be better to assume the PS3>360 in graphics.

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#15 PS3Gamer_1
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Not really.

So far, the best PS3 exclusive graphics looks better than the best Xbox exclusive. The best PS3 exclusive also looks better than the best multiplat out between the consoles. I would say that so far it would be better to assume the PS3>360 in graphics.

shutdown_202
Would have to agree here. Nothing on the 360 has achieved, graphically, what so many exclusives have acheieved on the ps3. But they both have great games, graphics wise and gameplay wise. Just play the games.....all systems have them!
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It mostly has better looking multiplats but I also agree that some of the 1st party PS3 games are more visually impressive than anything else on both consoles, so I'd say it's too close to assume anything.
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#17 Mystery_Writer
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Not really.

So far, the best PS3 exclusive graphics looks better than the best Xbox exclusive. The best PS3 exclusive also looks better than the best multiplat out between the consoles. I would say that so far it would be better to assume the PS3>360 in graphics.

shutdown_202
that's debatable PS3 exclusives might have looked better if they were made on X360 hardware.
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#18 PS3Gamer_1
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TC, you know what they say when you assume?

Well if it makes you happy, sure let's say the 360 is the best console ever. I hope it makes you happy! I'll be playing my games....both systmes have awesome games and graphics.

And if anyting PS3 has been making better (graphics wise) exclsuives than have 360. So that sort of proves that if anyting ps3 is slightly better.

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#19 emorainbo
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Not really.

So far, the best PS3 exclusive graphics looks better than the best Xbox exclusive. The best PS3 exclusive also looks better than the best multiplat out between the consoles. I would say that so far it would be better to assume the PS3>360 in graphics.

PS3Gamer_1

Would have to agree here. Nothing on the 360 has achieved, graphically, what so many exclusives have acheieved on the ps3. But they both have great games, graphics wise and gameplay wise. Just play the games.....all systems have them!

I sorta of agree but lets not forget a time where the 360 had better looking exclusives than the PS3.

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Oh, but apparently the tiny blurry texture in DMC4 PS3 makes it vastly inferior. Or how about those jaggies in the 360 version of GTA4. Big differences I tell you, we should all analyze the pics for hours instead of playing the games, that makes more sense.

ActicEdge

:P

What I think it comes down too -- and I coud be wrong, but this is my take in all this. Cows -- though Sony did most of the talking for them -- constantly touted the PS3 as the "HD console" of the generation, or the "most powerful console on the planet". The hype was led to believe that the PS3 was vastly superior in terms of graphics over the Xbox 360.

You see (from my memory) -- back in 2005, and throughout 2006 the cows constantly jumped on a bandwagon saying the following question: "Where's the next-gen?" The cows constantly bashed the Xbox 360 for its graphics, saying how it "lacks" next-generation features and how it's graphical power is "incredibly weak" in comparison to the PS3.

Were they watching too many CGI videos? Perhaps. Nevertheless, word got out that the PS3 was a "pain" to develop for -- much like how the PS2 was. And that the Xbox 360 was "Developer friendly" and a breeze to develop for. The excuses came out like a bee swarm from a boy smacking the bee hive. Developer incompetence, not enough time ("just wait") were jut a few of those excuses.

And now, even years down the line -- the multiplatform games are nearly the same. The vast majority of the time, the multiplatform games are ethier "superior" on the Xbox 360 or "the same". How about that? Older technology still putting up with the more recent hardware. Impressive. Much like the Xbox still being superior to the Wii... oh whoops. I digressed. :P

Lemmings stilll have a field day in regards to this, though I don't think there's a single one fanboy from the old SW days back in 2005 and 2006. Pity. Haha.

Good times.

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#21 EVOLV3
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Exclusives are the games that truely show a consoles graphical capabilities since they are built ground up for the platform. And since PS3 exclusive almost always tend to outperform 360 exclusives in terms of graphics its PS3>360 in graphics capabilities.

Mystery_Writer

it seems, from what we've seen of multiplats, PS3 exclusives would have looked better if they were done on X360 hardware.



That doesnt really make sense :? Games made exclusivly for the PS3 tend to outperform exclusives on the 360. So even if you took a PS3 exclusive and made it 360 exclusive it would not look better than the PS3 version.

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It's pretty much safe to assume anything on an internet forum. But I think the PS3 may have a slight edge in potential, similar to the edge the Xbox had on the PS2.
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Not really.

So far, the best PS3 exclusive graphics looks better than the best Xbox exclusive. The best PS3 exclusive also looks better than the best multiplat out between the consoles. I would say that so far it would be better to assume the PS3>360 in graphics.

Mystery_Writer
that's debatable PS3 exclusives might have looked better if they were made on X360 hardware.

No, because if that were true, 360 exclusives would look better than ps3 exclusives.
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#24 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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So even if you took a PS3 exclusive and made it 360 exclusive it would not look better than the PS3 version.

EVOLV3

And you know this... how?

Edit: And that doesn't even make sense, if you make a PS3 exclusive... become a Xbox 360 exclusive? What?

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Oh, but apparently the tiny blurry texture in DMC4 PS3 makes it vastly inferior. Or how about those jaggies in the 360 version of GTA4. Big differences I tell you, we should all analyze the pics for hours instead of playing the games, that makes more sense.

Stevo_the_gamer

:P

What I think it comes down too -- and I coud be wrong, but this is my take in all this. Cows -- though Sony did most of the talking for them -- constantly touted the PS3 as the "HD console" of the generation, or the "most powerful console on the planet". The hype was led to believe that the PS3 was vastly superior in terms of graphics over the Xbox 360.

You see (from my memory) -- back in 2005, and throughout 2006 the cows constantly jumped on a bandwagon saying the following question: "Where's the next-gen?" The cows constantly bashed the Xbox 360 for its graphics, saying how it "lacks" next-generation features and how it's graphical power is "incredibly weak" in comparison to the PS3.

Were they watching too many CGI videos? Perhaps. Nevertheless, word got out that the PS3 was a "pain" to develop for -- much like how the PS2 was. And that the Xbox 360 was "Developer friendly" and a breeze to develop for. The excuses came out like a bee swarm from a boy smacking the bee hive. Developer incompetence, not enough time ("just wait") were jut a few of those excuses.

And now, even years down the line -- the multiplatform games are nearly the same. The vast majority of the time, the multiplatform games are ethier "superior" on the Xbox 360 or "the same". How about that? Older technology still putting up with the more recent hardware. Impressive. Much like the Xbox still being superior to the Wii... oh whoops. I digressed. :P

Lemmings stilll have a field day in regards to this, though I don't think there's a single one fanboy from the old SW days back in 2005 and 2006. Pity. Haha.

Good times.

Isn't it just amazing how the Xbox1.5 has been able to keep up with the PS3? :P

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#26 emorainbo
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Not really.

So far, the best PS3 exclusive graphics looks better than the best Xbox exclusive. The best PS3 exclusive also looks better than the best multiplat out between the consoles. I would say that so far it would be better to assume the PS3>360 in graphics.

Mystery_Writer

that's debatable PS3 exclusives might have looked better if they were made on X360 hardware.

Well for one, that is impossible to find out and 2.) His point was that games that are built from the ground up on PS3 hardware look better than games built up from the 360s hardware.

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#27 Senor_Kami
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I own a 360 and NO. Come on. Technology advances, it doesn't digress. Don't mention the Wii unless you are seriously going to argue that the PS3 is two PS2 duct-taped together. The PS3 is more powerful. You only see it in exclusives because it doesn't make sense for a multiplat game to spend extra money to make the version that will sell the least better.
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#28 Mr_Splosher
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or you still believe dev needs more time with the PS3 even this late in the generation?

Mystery_Writer

yes

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#29 EVOLV3
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]So even if you took a PS3 exclusive and made it 360 exclusive it would not look better than the PS3 version.

Stevo_the_gamer

And you know this... how?



Why wouldnt it when trends seem to show the opposite? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 among other exclusives look better than 360 exclusives.

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#30 CleanPlayer
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I think it's safe to say they are both graphically too similar to distinguish which is surperior.
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#31 LosDaddie
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But I think the PS3 may have a slight edge in potential, similar to the edge the Xbox had on the PS2.cainetao11

The Xbox had clear hardware superiority over the PS2. The same is not true for the PS3 & 360.

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#32 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]So even if you took a PS3 exclusive and made it 360 exclusive it would not look better than the PS3 version.

EVOLV3

And you know this... how?



Why wouldnt it when trends seem to show the opposite? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 among other exclusives look better than 360 exclusives.

But, for the sake of example purposes only, if those such games became multiplatform... why couldn't they look better on the Xbox 360?

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#33 ocelot562
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Exclusives are the games that truely show a consoles graphical capabilities since they are built ground up for the platform. And since PS3 exclusive almost always tend to outperform 360 exclusives in terms of graphics its PS3>360 in graphics capabilities.

Mystery_Writer

it seems, from what we've seen of multiplats, PS3 exclusives would have looked better if they were done on X360 hardware.

Why don't you re-read his post until you understand what he said.

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[QUOTE="cainetao11"] But I think the PS3 may have a slight edge in potential, similar to the edge the Xbox had on the PS2.LosDaddie

The Xbox had clear hardware superiority over the PS2. The same is not true for the PS3 & 360.

Agreed, I dont think we will ever know what console was truly superior this gen (hardware wise)

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The Xbox 360 has a superior GPU and better memory architecture which leads to better graphics. Those amazing-looking PS3 exclusives that PS3-fans love to point out would probably look better if they'd been done on the Xbox 360.

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#36 tmacscores91
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PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

ActicEdge

on multiplats thats true. However, on Exclusives it's false. No 360 game can top Uncharted, Killzone 2, and Metal Gear Solid 4

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#37 BioShockOwnz
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They're about equal.

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#38 zaku101
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Hardware wise the 360 has a better graphic card and the ps3 has a better cpu. If we're just talking about graphics then the 360 wins.

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#39 ocelot562
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The Xbox 360 has a superior GPU and better memory architecture which leads to better graphics. Those amazing-looking PS3 exclusives that PS3-fans love to point out would probably look better if they'd been done on the Xbox 360.

UnnDunn

And that doesn't mean a thing as proven by Uncharted 2.

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#40 emorainbo
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

tmacscores91

on multiplats thats true. However, on Exclusives it's false. No 360 game can top Uncharted, Killzone 2, and Metal Gear Solid 4

MGS4 is debartable but I agree that Killzone 2 and Uncharted are 2 of the best looking games this gen.

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#41 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

tmacscores91

on multiplats thats true. However, on Exclusives it's false. No 360 game can top Uncharted, Killzone 2, and Metal Gear Solid 4

I disagree. IMO, Gears2 is on par with each of them. :)

Oh and I also think RE5 is the best looking console game right now.

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They are almost equal, but yes 360 does have a slight edge this gen, but not as much of an edge like last gen.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

PS3 = Xbox 360. There is very little difference.

tmacscores91

on multiplats thats true. However, on Exclusives it's false. No 360 game can top Uncharted, Killzone 2, and Metal Gear Solid 4

MGS4 does look great but I don't think it's un-toppable.
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since multiplats seem to be the only objective factors in graphics comparison... do you think its safe to assume; X360 fans have the most powerful console graphically this generation?

or you still believe dev needs more time with the PS3 even this late in the generation?

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Why do you say that using multiplats are the only objective factors in graphics comparison? What if a developer knows one console better than the other? Take...Valve for example...they could probably make both a good game and a good looking game for the 360, but they have "problems" when it comes to making games for the PS3, doesn't that mean you can't compare the versions now? People should not use exclusives to compare but 1st party exclusives, that way you know that the people making the game know the abilities of the console and can therefore bring out the full potential. If you one day, get a game that looks vastly more superior to anything on the other console then that can be "console graphics king" but because it is a clash between consoles of nearly the same graphical horse power (from the recent games we have seen, nothing beats the other by much) it is fair to say that the "console graphics king" will change from one console to the other.
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#45 Mystery_Writer
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Not really.

So far, the best PS3 exclusive graphics looks better than the best Xbox exclusive. The best PS3 exclusive also looks better than the best multiplat out between the consoles. I would say that so far it would be better to assume the PS3>360 in graphics.

Dilrod
that's debatable PS3 exclusives might have looked better if they were made on X360 hardware.

No, because if that were true, 360 exclusives would look better than ps3 exclusives.

well.. that's subjective (i.e. debatable)
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MGS4 does look great but I don't think it's un-toppable.Floppy_Jim
What... Jim, you don't think it's technically superior to Crysis Warhead? ;) :P
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I thought MGS4 looks pretty meh in gameplay. The cutscenes looked good enough, which are supposed to be in-game, I guess, but it's the cinematography that made them look so good, imo. I thought that dark level with the whistling was downright ugly, actually.

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#48 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]MGS4 does look great but I don't think it's un-toppable.Stevo_the_gamer
What... Jim, you don't think it's technically superior to Crysis Warhead? ;) :P

Actually no, I have to disagree with GS on that one. But as for Killzone 2.......:P

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#49 jonnyt61
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At the moment, it'd be safe to assume the opposite. Considering the best looking console games this gen are on PS3 alone, I'd have to disagree with the idea that 360 is stronger graphically speaking. Multiplats never have been a way to benchmark the strength of a system, that is solely down to exclusives.
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#50 Camer999
Member since 2009 • 1729 Posts

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Exclusives are the games that truely show a consoles graphical capabilities since they are built ground up for the platform. And since PS3 exclusive almost always tend to outperform 360 exclusives in terms of graphics its PS3>360 in graphics capabilities.

EVOLV3

it seems, from what we've seen of multiplats, PS3 exclusives would have looked better if they were done on X360 hardware.



That doesnt really make sense :? Games made exclusivly for the PS3 tend to outperform exclusives on the 360. So even if you took a PS3 exclusive and made it 360 exclusive it would not look better than the PS3 version.

THe exclusives for the 360 are multiplatform engines while the PS3 get custom one, smart one.