Is it safe to say GTA4, COD4, AC, etc will look better on 360?

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#1 SpecialForcesOp
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Discuss. Textures might be better in all of those games.
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#2 MCGSMB
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Yeah, they'll probably have better textures on the 360.

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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

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ill tell ya..

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#5 dmaximum
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I think most will be the same. They aren't ports so theres no reason for them to look better on one platform over another.
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#6 ALCATRAZZ3
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I cannot wait for Call of Duty 4

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Force Recon Marines?

Oh my!!!!!!! :D

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#7 ShmenonPie
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No, they'll look better on the PS3, as most games do.
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#8 SegArgyle
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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

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whatever

too bad your wrong on all counts

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#9 LuvGaming
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Discuss. Textures might be better in all of those games.SpecialForcesOp
The PS3 version of Oblivion has better looking textures than the 360 version and Jade Raymond of AC also commented on the PS3's textures in AC possible looking a tad better than the 360 version. Also, HOME will be launched in September so trophies will be available for all of those games on the PS3.
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#10 MCGSMB
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No, they'll look better on the PS3, as most games do.ShmenonPie

Proofplease?Givemealistofgamesthatlookbetterontheps3thanthe360.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

SegArgyle

whatever

too bad your wrong on all counts

Wow your logic and reasoning is astounding.

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#12 Danm_999
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I'd say (with the exception of GTA4, which will probably be a timed exclusive) all those games are going to look better on the PC.
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#13 reaperstoll
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I doubt there will be such a glaring difference in the games that I will care at all.
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#14 mavven
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No it's not safe
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#15 nhh12345
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No. Why do people say stupid stuff like this. This stuff should be locked but wont be.

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#16 MikeE21286
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I'm not sure if that assumption is solock-down actually. You would think it'd be, but these upcoming games are all being made while the PS3 is around now. All prior multi's had started previous to the PS3 existing at all (and even some of those games you mentioned started on the PS3). I really have no idea what console they'll be better on.
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#17 mmirza23
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Depends, if the development time is the same for both consoles, I think the 360 versions will look better, but if they were developing longer for the ps3 then they should look identical, maybe even an edge to the PS3(oblivion and R6V come to mind, yes i know SCDA and FEAR also had longer dev times and looked awful) but maybe with this new PS EDGE kit, it will get easier to develop games.
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#18 nhh12345
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[QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]No, they'll look better on the PS3, as most games do.MCGSMB

Proofplease?Givemealistofgamesthatlookbetterontheps3thanthe360.

Yes, this guy had lotts of proof. But you took it and believed it.
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#19 SpecialForcesOp
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I guess if the devs have been kind to the ps3 it might look the same or slightly better, I MEAN SLIGHT as in not even noticable.
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#21 Hoobinator
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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

Actually if I'm not mistaken GTA4 has already been shown running on 360 hardware, I wonder why?

And as for Assassins Creed it was a multiplat title announced over a year ago but people thought it was a PS3 exclusive so they assume it was created for the PS3 ground up which may well be wrong as well.

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No way to tell. There was a rumor floating around a long time ago that the 360 version of Assassian's Creed would have superior AI, but that might have gotten shot down, not sure.

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#23 RazMaTaz-1
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na wouldnt say "safe". Far from it. If they payed a bit more attention with the PS3 version, it will look on paar :)
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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

Than why has Rockstar said that all of the GTA4 footage seen so far is the 360 version?

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#25 istayonfireboy
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well if you check the new ps3, 360 comparison shots the games difference have change since the first time they did now the games look almost identical the only difference was that the ps3 versions were brighter then the 36 version so i see no difference in gta4 happing
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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

Because being the most powerful console worked out really well for the N64, Xbox, Genesis, Intellivision, Neo-Geo, Phillips CD-I, PSP,and3DO. lol, Seriously does the self-ownage ever stop with you?

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#27 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

SegArgyle

whatever

too bad your wrong on all counts

how am i wrong? i am just posting the facts dude. can you discredit them? no because what i stated is the truth no opinions, no bs just the facts.

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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

Hmmmmmmmmmm, I thought they were using the 'Table Tennis' engine for GTA 4, which was designed for the 360

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

Riverwolf007

Because being the most powerful console worked out really well for the N64, Xbox, Genesis, Intellivision, Neo-Geo, Phillips CD-I, PSP,and3DO. lol, Seriously does the self-ownage ever stop with you?

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#30 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

whatever

too bad your wrong on all counts

how am i wrong? i am just posting the facts dude. can you discredit them? no because what i stated is the truth no opinions, no bs just the facts.

You need to do some better fact checking my friend.

Development began on the 360 according to Rockstar, simply because it was available first, and they maintain there isn't a target console.

And no, they didn't make the engine specifically for PS3, I think a previous game from Rockstar on 360 also featured the Engine.

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#31 TyrantDragon55
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

RickGotti

Hmmmmmmmmmm, I thought they were using the 'Table Tennis' engine for GTA 4, which was designed for the 360

It's actually called the Rage engine, and yes they are.

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#32 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

Hoobinator

Actually if I'm not mistaken GTA4 has already been shown running on 360 hardware, I wonder why?

And as for Assassins Creed it was a multiplat title announced over a year ago but people thought it was a PS3 exclusive so they assume it was created for the PS3 ground up which may well be wrong as well.

rockstar made an engine specifially for ps3 for this game. assassin's creed was first announced for ps3 then MONTHS later was confirmed to be coming to 360 and pc.

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Discuss. Textures might be better in all of those games.SpecialForcesOp

Sorry but you can't COD4 will look better on 360 because it is also coming to the pc and I heard it supoorts Dx10.

But if you mean just between 360 and ps3, it will look better on 360 if they do a bad job at porting it over to the ps3.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

sdelaney86

Because being the most powerful console worked out really well for the N64, Xbox, Genesis, Intellivision, Neo-Geo, Phillips CD-I, PSP,and3DO. lol, Seriously does the self-ownage ever stop with you?

Round 2 ding, ding. Commodore 64, Coleco Vision, Virtual boy, Saturn, Dreamcast....go ahead folks feel free to add your own favorites that got owned by less powerful systems.
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

Actually if I'm not mistaken GTA4 has already been shown running on 360 hardware, I wonder why?

And as for Assassins Creed it was a multiplat title announced over a year ago but people thought it was a PS3 exclusive so they assume it was created for the PS3 ground up which may well be wrong as well.

rockstar made an engine specifially for ps3 for this game. assassin's creed was first announced for ps3 then MONTHS later was confirmed to be coming to 360 and pc.

It's odd they made the engine specifically for the PS3 when it was first released on a 360 game.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1530131/20060503/index.jhtml

Honestly, I'm just finding this stuff on Wikipedia.

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#36 -Sora
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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

It isnt more powerful, and if it is its barely more powerful. So please save the bull****.

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#37 Ragashahs
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most likely the 360 games will only look slightly better at most but the only real edge i see is PS3 versions might run quicker
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[QUOTE="sdelaney86"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

Riverwolf007

Because being the most powerful console worked out really well for the N64, Xbox, Genesis, Intellivision, Neo-Geo, Phillips CD-I, PSP,and3DO. lol, Seriously does the self-ownage ever stop with you?

Round 2 ding, ding. Commodore 64, Coleco Vision, Virtual boy, Saturn, Dreamcast....go ahead folks feel free to add your own favorites that got owned by less powerful systems.

Goliath(sp?)

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

Danm_999

whatever

too bad your wrong on all counts

how am i wrong? i am just posting the facts dude. can you discredit them? no because what i stated is the truth no opinions, no bs just the facts.

You need to do some better fact checking my friend.

Development began on the 360 according to Rockstar, simply because it was available first, and they maintain there isn't a target console.

And no, they didn't make the engine specifically for PS3, I think a previous game from Rockstar on 360 also featured the Engine.

According to the latest issue of PSM who has been in talks with Rockstar North, the next GTA game is going to look really good, thanks to a all new game engine especially developed for the for PS3.

Rockstar North is creating a specialized game engine for PS3 that will bring GTA 4 to life to a degree that the PS2 games could only hint at. Specifically, they're going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously. The game's city- unfortunately yet to be even hinted at- will still be free roaming and seamless, but broken down into smaller, more detailed areas at the engine level, into which the game designers are going to be able to pour more textures, more object variety, and tons of details (such as discarded soda cans with their own physics), just for starters. The goal is a city that's less repetitive and where everything - and everyone- looks and acts more like they would in the real world on every level.

http://www.ps3today.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_513.aspx

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#40 tree-branch
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gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

ubisoft said ac is better on 360.

and i think grand theft auto has more content in the 360 version

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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

Actually if I'm not mistaken GTA4 has already been shown running on 360 hardware, I wonder why?

And as for Assassins Creed it was a multiplat title announced over a year ago but people thought it was a PS3 exclusive so they assume it was created for the PS3 ground up which may well be wrong as well.

rockstar made an engine specifially for ps3 for this game. assassin's creed was first announced for ps3 then MONTHS later was confirmed to be coming to 360 and pc.

No they didn't, GTA4 is running on the rage engine, the same engine that Tabel Tennis used. And if memory serves, Assassin's Creed was originally announced as project assassin at X05.

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ill tell ya..

*uses crystal ball* hmm... *crystal ball not responding* damn :( it broke :cry:

wklzip

yours too?!?!!? man Microsoft really needs to improve on the Hardware quality of their Crystal Balls lol

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#43 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="SegArgyle"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

-Renegade

whatever

too bad your wrong on all counts

how am i wrong? i am just posting the facts dude. can you discredit them? no because what i stated is the truth no opinions, no bs just the facts.

You need to do some better fact checking my friend.

Development began on the 360 according to Rockstar, simply because it was available first, and they maintain there isn't a target console.

And no, they didn't make the engine specifically for PS3, I think a previous game from Rockstar on 360 also featured the Engine.

According to the latest issue of PSM who has been in talks with Rockstar North, the next GTA game is going to look really good, thanks to a all new game engine especially developed for the for PS3.

Rockstar North is creating a specialized game engine for PS3 that will bring GTA 4 to life to a degree that the PS2 games could only hint at. Specifically, they're going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously. The game's city- unfortunately yet to be even hinted at- will still be free roaming and seamless, but broken down into smaller, more detailed areas at the engine level, into which the game designers are going to be able to pour more textures, more object variety, and tons of details (such as discarded soda cans with their own physics), just for starters. The goal is a city that's less repetitive and where everything - and everyone- looks and acts more like they would in the real world on every level.

http://www.ps3today.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_513.aspx

Err, how does this substantiate the claim that Rockstar began development on the PS3 version of GTA4 first?

Also, doesn't your source strike you as problematic seeing as how it's from almost 2 years ago, is long before GTA4 was fleshed out and doesn't seem to mention the RAGE engine, the engine in question?

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[QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]Discuss. Textures might be better in all of those games.Callofdutynoob

Sorry but you can't COD4 will look better on 360 because it is also coming to the pc and I heard it supoorts Dx10.

But if you mean just between 360 and ps3, it will look better on 360 if they do a bad job at porting it over to the ps3.

Are you suggesting that the Xbox 360's GPU supports DX10? Lmao!
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

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ubisoft said ac is better on 360.

and i think grand theft auto has more content in the 360 version

Thanks for making stuff up. =)
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Err, how does this substantiate the claim that Rockstar began development on the PS3 version of GTA4 first?

Also, doesn't your source strike you as problematic seeing as how it's from almost 2 years ago, is long before GTA4 was fleshed out and doesn't seem to mention the RAGE engine, the engine in question?

Danm_999

Pretty obvious he's pulling this stuff out of the air.

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[QUOTE="tree-branch"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

gta 4 and ac both started development on ps3. rockstar made an engine specifically for ps3 for this game so the game will look better on ps3. cod4 who knows, guess we will have to wait and see. i exspect developers will have better looking games this year on ps3 considering its 2nd generation software. i wouldn't exspect there to be any diffeence between multi platforms now unless they started on ps3 which we all know is more powerful then 360.

LuvGaming

ubisoft said ac is better on 360.

and i think grand theft auto has more content in the 360 version

Thanks for making stuff up. =)

"360 exclusive episodic content"

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#50 LuvGaming
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MCGSMB, the PS3 will also receive "exclusive episodic content" for GTA 4. In fact, the extra content might be included with the original disc since every PS3 comes with Blu-Ray and a hard drive. It's possible that 360 owners might have to download the extra content.