Is Kinect(lol) the biggest FLOP in gaming history?

Only 500 million, not bad..

According to a New York Post report, Microsoft plans to spend $500 million marketing Kinect. The budget is spread through a number of campaigns, including a Times Square event and billboards; a YouTube front-page takeover; deals with Burger King, Pepsi, Time magazine; and more. Microsoft, according to the report, will also spend marketing dollars on advertisements during ABC's Dancing with the Stars, and Fox's Glee.

Reality set in

Yup, FLOPPED guys

he removal of the Kinect port on the Xbox One S is the final admission that Microsoft's accessory is dead. It's hard to imagine that the Project Scorpio console will re-introduce a Kinect port next year, and the accessory wasn't even mentioned during any of Microsoft's demos on stage. Microsoft claimed at E3 last year that "there are games actually that are coming out for Kinect," but at E3 this year the only mention is a USB adapter that admits Kinect failed.

does this eloquently describe MS's failure in gen 8 and not being able to keep up with current gen 8 console leader and ultimately gen 8 console winner PS4?

Discuss.

WiiU, Kinect, X1X, Soon to be Switch. Biggest FLOPS EVER!

COMPLETE failure

@Heil68: Somebody got triggered from another thread LOL.

Yep Kinect sold over 20 million and is considered a flop, PSVR sales are slow at 2 million, and its a roaring success, never change cows :)

so since I as right and posted facts according to GS, I'll leave you alone..KZ3>Halo 5...lmao

For starters, rolling out the Kinect without a killer game was a huge mistake. They needed a Wii Sports type of game sold with the Kinect for no additional cost on Day 1. Anything less than that was a failure.

As far as the 360 goes, it only came out halfway through the consoles life cycle, so most developers were going to be super cautious until they saw how popular it was. And even then, it's tough to justify huge resources for a novelty device that is only owned by a fraction of the user base.

As for the One - they did the right thing by including it with the console and showing that they were serious about promoting it. But, again, they made mistakes. Again, they should have included a killer game with it. Then they screwed up with all the privacy concerns and "always on" requirements - it scared people and really hurt the device.

And now here we are - it's no longer included again and basically dead.

Now, all of that said - I'm unconvinced that the Kinect is really how people want to play games anyway. The Move and even the Wii were often more novelty than serious gaming controllers. And the Wii sold extremely well and had full earnest support from Nintendo.

Sometimes in life we don't really need to change things that much. I think the modern controller is pretty close to perfect for most people's consoles wants and needs.

I want to say virtual boy just out of mainstream examples

True, but 500 million

MS really dun fucked up chasing the Wii'spot of gold.

Yep the fact is Halo > all Killzones LOL.

And since cows loves sales Kinect > PSVR LOL.

Even @shawn30 knows it's true

bu bu bu we have NFL apps that will be game changer.

Even @TheEroica , who is a lem sympathiser, dropped Xbox and went with PS4.

What more PROOF do you need?

PS4 WINS Gen 8.

FACT mother *********

awwwwww yeahhhhhh

Outpacing PS4 sales, but Switch is soon to be the "BIGGEST FLOP EVER!'

I liked you better when you weren't so transparent :(

Also, @Heil68, this might be relevant lol:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kinect-for-xbox-one-only-16-at-gamestop.13155/

bu bu bub those FACTS, I dont agree with, I'm butt hurt ...*am cry*

Who is leading sales in current gen 8 then?

lmao

SONY wins AGAIN

What a fucking joke that peice of shit is, even @i_p_daily agrees with that. Worst thing I have EVER bought in my history of gaming. Glad they dropped that hunk of shit.

Everyone knows it's the Virtual Boy and it's still the biggest flop compare to SEGA Game Gear.

Was there a 500 million dollar investment? You can adjust for inflation....

@Heil68: Yep I agree that Kinect and PSVR are worthless, but one sold a shit ton the other not so much, can you figure out which is which???

I was too young at the time understanding how investment works growing up in the 90's.

Ok, Kinect WINS that battle!!!!!

What can I do with this hunk of shit on my Entertainment Center then?

What NEW games are coming out?

If I buy Xbox X, since I am unbiased manticore poster who is open unlike you, can I plug it DIRECTLY into the new Xbox X?

If not, why?

what is MS stance on Kinect?

Is it in their future?

Should I keep my current hardware I bought for LAUNCH on Xbox One?

If so Why?

If not Why?

Should MS claimed Kinect(lol) was INTEGRAL part of ecosystem?

If so. how?

If now, why?

Why is your general opinion of hardware that MS marketed, and made people BUY as your post pointed out, then they seem to have dropped?

Why?

Please explain so I know how to proceed with MS consoles.

I never bought PSVR and I can enjoy SONY, current gen 8 console leader without it.

Nintendo Virtual Boy was dead in less than a year.

so in conclusion KINECt(lol) sucks and MS blew 500 million chasing the Wii's pot of gold..lmao

@i_p_daily am cry.

lmao

Calm down...lmao.

Kinect was the reason I lost faith in MS and PS became my main consoles.

Kinect was and is a piece of shit and a waste of fucking space. I'm glad they are letting it die.

Now if only the same thing would happen to motion controls and stupid fucking tablet controllers...

This is the part where I do a heil and go with this quoted part LOL

I WIN...

Keep'em coming heil lol.

I add up Sega CD, 32X, and Saturn as the biggest flop ever. "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?" Seriously they lost their market share to Nintendo and Playstation when they were killing it with the Genesis/Mega Drive. When you dominate like that you shouldn't be bowing out 10 years later unless you really screwed up.

I have no idea how much money Sega lost on all that, especially when adjusted for inflation. But Microsoft is still around for the foreseeable future, despite losing a lot of money due to Kinect. Atleast they could survive the losses unlike Sega.

Yup!

lmao

I thought so

So in YOUR words SONY has WON(KING) gen 7 AND 8

Is that because of the FLOP of Kinect?????

Yeah, nope. It outsold the PS Move last gen. That ridiculous, unabashed copy of the WiiMote was a pathetic joke.

Do people have to use Move with PSVR now? Maybe, but that's not what it was introduced for. MIT uses Kinect and so does the 23rd street VA hospital in NYC. It wasn't introduced for that. Move was a bitch ass copy.

I agree the Virtual Boy was the biggest flop ever. Anyone trying to compare the Kinect to Virtual Boy is just being a dumb ass fanboy.

The Saturn was killer, it was just hard to programme for. The Saturn had some of the best games of any system.

So even the BIGGEST Lem and BIASEd poster (admittedly) @i_p_daily agrees.

I have ALL consoles and speak the TRUTH

IP stated he would falsey go against current gen 8 console LEADER to try and resist.

Sad

SONY wins AGAIN.

I have been laughing at some entertaining threads today at SW. Thinking about kinect is actually very funny though. Xbox camp would like to tout its success but when you think about it, its one of if not the catalyst to this ps4 dominance. @Heil68 its not a flop but handed the victory to the competition. Maybe psvr will be playstation camp's Kinect. Sony will do a xboxone kinect with ps5 psvr perhaps. Better stop praising psvr lol.

Oh, it's like this. yeah

Heil you should by a PSVR because you live in a fantasy land, and it would suit you perfectly.

Oh and there's no point in linking my username because I have all notifications turned off lol.

@Heil68: Yeah it flopped because they completely wasted it's potential.

Using it for gaming other than head tracking for VR was like using a Sledgehammer to to drive a drawing pin into your wall.

that thing had so much more potential than just games.

Healthcare.

Security.

Education.

It even had military applications.

they basically Crippled it's potential by marrying it to the 360, which , although a good games console, did not have the power to push Kinect anywhere near it's potential.

Not even close. Virtual Boy might take the crown. Or one of the Atari flops like the 7800.

You have to take into account the fact that this is an experimental peripheral and not a standalone console. In fact I'd pretty much have to give this to Atari as they went from kings to paupers in such a short time. At least sega's demise was drawn out and they are still around to tell the tale.

Kinect was pretty successful from 2011 till about the end of the 360.

you cows love sales and it shits on VR sales.

and the PS Move was a bigger flop, you cows always ignore it's existence ;)

wow.. 4 posts in and this piece of shit thread flops harder than the kinect ever did LMAO

Of course not, not even close. Don't understand why some people like to brag about their ignorance.

remember SONY trying to make their own wii type movement controls?

The PS Eye and PS Move are massive flops, a long with the VITA.

poor cows, they're running in circles.

no, originally the Kinect was somewhat successful back on the Xbox 360, of course it wasn't for everything, mainly I saw it really only valuable for dance games but that's reason enough for me to get one, problem was they tried to mandate it on the XB1, it added cost to the device but worse IMIO is the language support for the voice controls ruined its regional support and ability to market it abroad

if they just kept is as a peripheral add-on for dance games, my guess is that the thing would at least enjoy some modest success on that end

anyhow, I can only imagine what was going on in Don Mattrick's office in the months before the XB1 release, probably something like...

I would think Virtual boy, Sega 32x, Atari Jaguar, and especially Panasonic 3D0 were probably bigger flops.

@i_p_daily: It wouldn't be a thread without you in here mentioning psvr lol... At least you're consistent with your hate for it.

As much as I wouldn't and didn't use one(I hate talking commands to my console or phone), I don't know how you can say it was a flop. It had it's Glory days on 360. It's a shame they had to ditch it on Xbox One, but they needed that extra 10% processing power I guess. Before my psvr, I had a camera for my PS4 which my 5 year old thought was cool... So $40 for it was fine. I'm sure a lot of kids and soccer moms who did their workouts at home loved the Kinect.

Also add 360 as a failure.

PS3 sold more than 360 in the end. Hell PS3 is still selling tot this day...

Well I'm sure "sales" numbers are at least 95% of consoles it was shoehorned in with, nevertheless that let's M$ quote numbers that sound quite nice so far from the biggest flop there has been. Virtual Boy, as awesome as it was/is was sadly off of store shelves in like 3 months. Also, let's not forget the N-Gage.

Are you going for the backhanded compliments king on these forums or something?

You see you've got me all wrong, as I only want the gimmick known as VR to die in the gaming space.

There are many more practical uses for VR, like teaching aids for medical students etc. I only keep it real in the VR threads because it's enthusiasts are fucking nuts. So much so one of them created an alt to talk only VR and only positive for it, that wasn't you was it?

It's well known cows are the clowns of System Wars, that they call VR a success, and call the Kinect a flop, it's hilarious, oh and so you know I think the Kinect was crap for gaming also, having played only 2 games (Joy Ride/Gun Stringer) was enough for me to know that, but I don't need to put that shit on my face & hold 2 dildos to know that VR is not for me :)

Have a nice day :)

^ ^ ? Angry lem having a meltdown.

? Kinect was a monumental flop that dragged Xbone down with it. I’m sure Xbone would have been much more successful had MS not foolishly bundled it with Kinect(lol)

An article claiming Microsoft was planning doesn't exactly show what the did spend. I saw no evidence of that money going on just marketing the Kinect.

The technology was awesome.

The implementation was poor.

If your basing the flop on the amount spent on advertising you are wrong.

Kinect in the Xbox One did not do well at all, Kinect in the 360 did ok, better than VR in PS4.

You do know that the kinect tech lives on in things like Hololens and the new Apple Iphone X.

Yeah sure, Kinect along with:

@R4gn4r0k: The Wii was a failure? A console that sold more than the PS3 and 360? A console that was such a failure that Microsoft and Sony reacted with motion control solutions of their own?