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#51 mjarantilla

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when i see and rpg thread orf some sort the lemmings always say kotor they need to broaden thier horizon and play jrpgs to. xjet039

It's still debateable whether JRPGs can even be considered RPGs.....

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[QUOTE="ringuzi"]Cows have these great jrpgs Square rpgs (final fantasy) looks like lems win on the rpg front (and btw im only mentioning good seriess)

and Dragon Quest, Radiata Stories, Grandia, Tales Of.., Shadow Hearts, Shin Megami Tensei, Kingdom Hearts, Disgaea, Star Ocean, Dark Cloud, Arc the Lad, Dot Hack, Wild Arms, Xenosaga, Suikoden, Atelier Iris...

yeah lems totally win, sure...

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#53 rocktimusprime

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when i see and rpg thread orf some sort the lemmings always say kotor they need to broaden thier horizon and play jrpgs to. xjet039

yeah because all MS fans didn't own SNES or any other console.

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O[QUOTE="zh666"][QUOTE="ringuzi"]Cows have these great jrpgs Square rpgs (final fantasy) looks like lems win on the rpg front (and btw im only mentioning good seriess)

and Dragon Quest, Radiata Stories, Grandia, Tales Of.., Shadow Hearts, Shin Megami Tensei, Kingdom Hearts, Disgaea, Star Ocean, Dark Cloud, Arc the Lad, Dot Hack, Wild Arms, Xenosaga, Suikoden, Atelier Iris...

yeah lems totally win, sure...

WOW,

That's the biggest pile of CRAP I've ever seen. hahaha

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[QUOTE="xjet039"]when i see and rpg thread orf some sort the lemmings always say kotor they need to broaden thier horizon and play jrpgs to. mjarantilla

It's still debateable whether JRPGs can even be considered RPGs.....

There's nothing debatable about it. :|

I tire of this thought that the entire industry from developers to the review site/publications have just been completely wrong in the naming of this sub genre of the broader term RPG.

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#56 fatzombiepigeon

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Uhh......Jade Empire, Morrowind, and Fable aren't other RPGs?

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I'm not a lemming but Western games like Fable, Jade Empire, Fallout and the Elder Scrolls series are a lot of fun. I prefer them over JRPGs. I've already played a lot of JRPGs back on the Turbo Duo, Sega CD and SNES...The graphics are great these days, but it's feeling kind of stale...TekkenMaster606

I think it's not so much stale as... they're not trying very hard anymore. Besides to make it pretty.

The new Dragon Quest on PS2 was great I thought.

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#58 Planeforger

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when i see and rpg thread orf some sort the lemmings always say kotor they need to broaden thier horizon and play jrpgs to. xjet039

You could easily say the same about cows who haven't played any WRPGs (or RRPGs - real RPGs :D) - they're both stupid generalisations.
People mention KOTOR because it was one of the best RPGs that came out within the last few years...you would have realised that if you had played it.

the 360 have more JRPG/WRPG/RPG then the PS3 .Prid3r

Currently true, although there's bound to be a few hundred extremely generic JRPGs being churned out every year for the PS3...as usual.

JRPG's have no depth. Even Final Fantasy VII was shallow.
Play Planescape: Torment. One of the best WRPG's ever made.
Lilac_Benjie

I recently read an interesting article concerning why FF7 was considered to have a great story, despite being extremely generic and shallow: here it is.
They seem to mostly contribute FF7's popularity to Aeris' death, stating that it was the only RPG to kill off a well established and beloved character...the author of this article has obviously never played Planescape: Torment (which is, obviously, the greatest RPG ever).

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#59 ArisShadows

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I never owned a X-Box, but I have played Kotor 1, Kotor 2, Neverwinter Nights, Fallout, Fallout 2, Earthboudn, Morrowind, Baldur Gates, Tales of Sympathy. There is more, but if you saying 360 related, I just recently got mine and I will purchase any that come out on it.. But currently, none on 360 atm.

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when i see and rpg thread orf some sort the lemmings always say kotor they need to broaden thier horizon and play jrpgs to. xjet039

I have played rpg's of all kinds on all platforms. JRPG's are too cliche to be memorable. And KOTOR is loved by all because it is the best rpg ever with an amazing amount of customization and character development. On the plus side, it is also the best star wars game ever, which many videogamers appreciate too. I hope Mass Effect tops it though, and on the JRPG front I am excited for Lost Odyssey.

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I've played quite a few RPGs in my time, and KOTOR is my favorite; actually, KOTOR's my favorite game of all time. I've completed most of the greats such as Resident Evil 4, Super Mario World, Ocarina of Time, Metroid Prime and what-not, but KOTOR still remains on top.

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I prefer JRPGs as they have a greater focus on character development and story. WRPGs tend to have characters that are less developed to make way for more customizations and more gameplay options though. My fav of all time was xenogears, so that kinda says more about my inclination. Oh, and in asia, most of us probably think american brutes are pretty ugly, and we prefer stylistic caricatures. so there, JRPGs are asian RPGs, what do you expect? But yea, KOTOR was a great balance between the 2 pillars of gameplay and story. Though I do feel that we are attached to the characters only because we are also attached to the star wars lore. Remember jade empire? a new game with similar mechanics but different universe, and it seemed so boring to me. No surprise that KOTOR is being mentioned so much.

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lets put this in perspective....

List of exclusive Xbox RPGs: (excluding Dreamcast, PC)
Arx Fatalis
Black Stone: Magic & Steel
Dai Senryaku VII: Modern Military Tactics
Dungeons & Dragons Heroes
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Fable
Fable: The Lost Chapters
Jade Empire
Metal Dungeon
Pirates of the Caribbean
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
Sudeki

List of Gamecube exclusives: (excluding Dreamcast, PC)
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
Baten Kaitos: Origins
Evolution Worlds
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicals
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Lost Kingdoms
Lost Kingdoms II
Medabots Infinity
Mega Man Network Transmission
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Phantasy Star Online Episode III
Pokemon Colosseum
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Tales of Symphonia

List of PS2 exclusives (excluding Dreamcast, PC)
.hack//G.U. vol. 1//Rebirth
.hack//G.U. vol. 2//Reminisce
.hack//Infection Part 1
.hack//Mutation Part 2
.hack//Outbreak Part 3
.hack//Quarantine Part 4
Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia
Arc the Lad: End of Darkness
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Champions of Norrath
Champions: Return to Arms
Colosseum: Road to Freedom
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Drakan: The Ancients' Gates
Drakengard
Drakengard 2
Dual Hearts
Dynasty Tactics
Dynasty Tactics 2
Ephemeral Fantasia
Eternal Ring
Evergrace
EverQuest Online Adventures
EverQuest Online Adventures: Frontiers
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XI Chains of Promathia
Final Fantasy XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan
Final Fantasy XII
Forever Kingdom
Front Mission 4
Fullmetal Alchemist and the Broken Angel
Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Curse of the Crimson Elixir
Graffiti Kingdom
Grandia II
Grandia III
Grandia Xtreme
Growlanser Generations
Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the Dragon Bone Staff
Inuyasha: The Secret of the Cursed Mask
Jade Cocoon 2
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
King's Field: The Ancient City
La Pucelle: Tactics
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Legend of Alon D'ar
Magic Pengel: The Quest for Color
Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
Makai Kingdom: Chronicles of the Sacred Tome
Metal Saga
MS Saga: A New Dawn
Nightmare of Druaga
Odin Sphere
Okage: Shadow King
Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
Persona 3
Phantom Brave
Radiata Stories
Rogue Galaxy
Romancing SaGa
Romance of the Three Kingdoms IX
Romance of the Three Kingdoms VIII
Romance of the Three Kingdoms X
Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI
RPG Maker 2
RPG Maker 3
Samurai Legend Musashi
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Shining Force Neo
Shining Force Exa
Shining Tears
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Steambot Chronicles
Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
Suikoden Tactics
Summoner
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
Tsugunai: Atonement
Unlimited Saga
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild Arms 3
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms Alter Code: F
Wild Arms: The Vth Vanguard
Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
Xenosaga Episode III: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim

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Remember jade empire? a new game with similar mechanics but different universe, and it seemed so boring to me. No surprise that KOTOR is being mentioned so much.bobbytkc

Jade Empire, or so I felt, had better characters. A lot of KOTOR's characters were forgettable, where as I remember nearly every Jade Empire party member. Both games had the obvious favorite (Kang the Mad, and HK-47, respectively), but I felt that the characters in Jade Empire had a greater contrast of history and personality, where as a lot of the KOTOR characters were an even grey. Obviously KOTOR had better gameplay, a better story, and what-not, but the characters simply weren't as memorable. :(

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#65 Planeforger

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lets put this in perspective.... zh666

Quantity =/= Quality.

Also, there's probably more variation in the small number of Xbox RPGs than there are in the large number of PS2 'RPGs'.

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[QUOTE="zh666"]lets put this in perspective.... Planeforger

Quantity =/= Quality.

Also, there's probably more variation in the small number of Xbox RPGs than there are in the large number of PS2 'RPGs'.

are you serious? theres 1 turn based RPG on the Xbox, i think 2 turn based Tactics type games (which look awful), 1 or 2 might be a 1st Person Dungeon Crawlers, the rest are 3rd person Action / Dungeon Crawlers...

the only "quality" RPGs on the Xbox are the only ones mentioned in this thread so far.. Jade Empire, Fable, Elder Scrolls and KOTOR (all action RPGs, and i'm pretty sure all went on to the PC).... hell the Gamecube has more variation than the Xbox...

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[QUOTE="zh666"]lets put this in perspective.... Planeforger

Quantity =/= Quality.

Also, there's probably more variation in the small number of Xbox RPGs than there are in the large number of PS2 'RPGs'.

I love how RPG is quoted for what the PS2 offers. *shakes head*

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I had ALOT of PS2 rpgs... and I'm a lemming.

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when i see and rpg thread orf some sort the lemmings always say kotor they need to broaden thier horizon and play jrpgs to. xjet039

Morrowind..Oblivion...Fable...Jade Empire......and jrpg's sux a$$

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[QUOTE="xjet039"]when i see and rpg thread orf some sort the lemmings always say kotor they need to broaden thier horizon and play jrpgs to. gellis1981

Morrowind..Oblivion...Fable...Jade Empire......and jrpg's sux a$$

how is this broadening ones horizon?

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