Is Metal Gears Of Solids a bad stealth series?

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Poll Is Metal Gears Of Solids a bad stealth series? (54 votes)

It pretty clearly is 43%
Metal Gear Solid is a well written with lots of gameplay 57%

My friends, ignoring old classics like the Thief series, arguably the greatest of all stealth games or the also well received Splinter Cell series, with Chaos theory being the high point. Are titles like Dues Ex: Human Revolution and Dishonored vastly superior stealth titles? And in general, games well more deserving the praise they receive? I feel this is the case. But I need your opinion, as it is generally excellent and among the best in the gaming world.

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#51 j_assassin
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Mgs series is one of the most fun, quality, excellent game made with passion for gaming, why can't we just leave it at that?

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#52 speedfreak48t5p
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@DarkLink77 said:

Metal Gear Solid really isn't a stealth franchise.

Games that force you to do battle with giant mechs that can shoot nuclear missiles are not stealth titles.

This post makes me want to pick up a MGS game.

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#53  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Peredith said:

Metal Gear Solid

Metal Gear Solid 2

Metal Gear Solid 3

Metal Gear Solid 4

Metal Gear Solid Peacewalker

Is Metal Gears Of Solids a bad stealth series?

No.

TC DESTROYED

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#54 MakeMeaSammitch
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I think the only people who hate on it are hipsters.

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#55  Edited By NightFox313
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Depends what you're talking about. Not sure if you're asking if Metal Gear is a bad series (or if it's overrated) or a has a bad representation of a stealth.

MGS1 was probably the best MGS story-wise. Like Resident Evil 1 it seemed like a normal infiltration but as you progressed through the game it wasn't just an infiltration. MGS1 wasn't just a stealth operation, just as how RE1 wasn't just about an investigation on Bravo team. It's plot twists and conspiracy that drive the Metal Gear games, and it works pretty darn well in most cases. But MGS2 and MGS4 started getting ridiculous stories that had to be explained through too many cutscenes and whatnot. MGS3 had the best of both worlds, though. To put it short, no, Metal Gear isn't a bad series.

As for the question if Metal Gear is a bad representation of stealth, yes. The first MGS pitted you against gene-enhanced "Genome" soldiers. The thing is that they sucked. They can't see outside of their blue cones and can only see and hear a few feet ahead (or around) of them rather than across the whole room like in the 2D ones. This issue has plagued nearly every Metal Gear to date. For the most part they don't function like they were intended to, but the harder difficulties mend this easily. Also, MGS4 had nearly removed stealth entirely, as it wasn't about infiltration anymore - more like sneaking around on the frontlines in a crossfire was what it was. Play MGS on a harder difficulty if you want more realism stealth-wise. Then again, wanting giant robots with nuclear weapons and a vampire in a stealth game to be called realistic is asking a bit too much...

TL; DR - You want a conspiracy and plot twist-driven story? Play MGS. If you're looking for an authentic stealth experience, you're better off looking elsewhere.

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#56  Edited By deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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It is a good series, with good stealth possabilities, but as a stealth game? no it is not the best. I can even see none stealth games, that has as good stealth elements, as the MGS series.

That said MGS IS a good stealth game if you want it to be MG in general was better then MGS in that area.

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#57 stuff238
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SAM FISHER CANT CRAWL. /thread.

This is what ruined Chaos Theory for me. It was like the first level. Your on a roof, you open a window, you slide down a rope, you have to get past a laser trip wire 1 foot high off the ground. "I'm like okay, I'll just crawl under it".......*pushes every button*. "WTF?! I can't ****ing crawl under it?!". Apparently you have to hack a PC or say screw it and set off the alarm.

What kind of stealth game does NOT have a crawl button?! A stealthy person knows that to not be seen you either get as close to the ground as possible or get up as high as possible. THAT is why splinter cell sucks and why MGS will always be the better stealth game.

Freaking Snake would have crawled under the trip wire or just do a rolling flip over it. lol.

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#58 Dreams-Visions
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MGS really isn't a stealth series. The original Splinter Cell trilogy was a stealth series. Metal Gear was okay with sneaking...or shooting everyone. It didn't really matter to the mission objectives.

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#59  Edited By betamaxx83
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I don't play MGS for stealth let's be honest it's really not a great stealth series. I play it for the story.

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#60 jg4xchamp
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@Vatusus said:

SC A.I must be one of the dumbest I've ever seen.

The **** out of here. I don't care which of the two franchises you like, but don't go on some nonsense paragraph about the Splinter Cell AI, like the MGS AI wasn't fucking stupid. Admittedly part of the fun of MGS is fucking with that dumb AI, but lets not act like those were some brilliantly designed AI characters. Very fixed patterns, a lot of the comedy aspects are scripted, and on alert mode the most they do is check lockers and that's if you make noise.

Not saying SC AI is fantastic either(I'd argue much better than MGS, but that's not an argument worth having), but pretending MGS AI is somehow good? That's just lunacy.

Not even touching the notion of Conviction being more open than Chaos Theory.

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#61 Legend500
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Another irrelevant, thinking to much into topic. Who gives a sh!t if its a bad representation of stealth? Its a brilliant series.

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#62  Edited By StriateEnd
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Ignoring Thief, MGS is only second to Splinter Cell 1-Chaos Theory. Splinter Cell series has taken a nose dive in terms of stealth mechanics whereas MGS5's stealth looks interesting and sorta fresh..

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#63 Renegade311
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Nope, I give it credit for popularizing stealth mechanics but Splinter Cell does stealth better than MGS does.

Also the story is trash. Just thought I'd mention that.