Is Modern Warfare 2 an "arcade shooter"?

just as arcady as Midnight Club is compared to GT or Forza imo. Should we start using that term? if a shooter imo has 2 out of 3 of these then yes it should:

-little to none recoil on the guns
-aiming assist
-fast pased gameplay

MW2 has all three of those, including perks, and unreastic disgusting animations. is calling it a arcade shooter to harsh? un-realistic shooter maybe?. now im not comparing to a true simulation of war like operation flashpoint 2 (cause we know that sucked) but along the lines of SOCOM, bad company 2, and killzone 2 (yes killzone 2 had aim assist).

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LEGEND_C4A

I'd label it a megacasual shooter, it's a better description.

I don't think you should look at this as a black and white situation. It's definitely arcadey, but it's still got some more realistic elements. At least, it's more realistic than say, UT.

Yes, as are Bad Company and Killzone 2. SOCOM is slightly above arcade shooter, more in the territory of un-realistic shooter with OFP2 slightly above SOCOM.

It's a Hollywood shooter.mo0ksi

All flash no substance.

It's either an arcade shooter or a Hollywood shooter. Either one is a good classification.

just as arcady as Midnight Club is compared to GT or Forza imo. Should we start using that term? if a shooter imo has 2 out of 3 of these then yes it should:

-little to none recoil on the guns
-aiming assist
-fast pased gameplay

MW2 has all three of those, including perks, and unreastic disgusting animations. is calling it a arcade shooter to harsh? un-realistic shooter maybe?. now im not comparing to a true simulation of war like operation flashpoint 2 (cause we know that sucked) but along the lines of SOCOM, bad company 2, and killzone 2 (yes killzone 2 had aim assist).

Revolution316

Have fun analyzing it to death.

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just as arcady as Midnight Club is compared to GT or Forza imo. Should we start using that term? if a shooter imo has 2 out of 3 of these then yes it should:

-little to none recoil on the guns
-aiming assist
-fast pased gameplay

MW2 has all three of those, including perks, and unreastic disgusting animations. is calling it a arcade shooter to harsh? un-realistic shooter maybe?. now im not comparing to a true simulation of war like operation flashpoint 2 (cause we know that sucked) but along the lines of SOCOM, bad company 2, and killzone 2 (yes killzone 2 had aim assist).

MortalDecay

Have fun analyzing it to death.

I think arcade shooter is a fine term for it. It's got a few realistic elements to it, but mostly it's meant to be fun not real.

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just as arcady as Midnight Club is compared to GT or Forza imo. Should we start using that term? if a shooter imo has 2 out of 3 of these then yes it should:

-little to none recoil on the guns
-aiming assist
-fast pased gameplay

MW2 has all three of those, including perks, and unreastic disgusting animations. is calling it a arcade shooter to harsh? un-realistic shooter maybe?. now im not comparing to a true simulation of war like operation flashpoint 2 (cause we know that sucked) but along the lines of SOCOM, bad company 2, and killzone 2 (yes killzone 2 had aim assist).

Revolution316

Have fun analyzing it to death.

Its an arcade shooter, look at Halo, Resistence. Whereas even KZ2 is seen as more realistic due to heavy movement and plenty of recoil. Even U2 has more recoil than Cod, Halo and Resistence. Gears goes here too.

Yes, as are Bad Company and Killzone 2. SOCOM is slightly above arcade shooter, more in the territory of un-realistic shooter with OFP2 slightly above SOCOM.

Flanker15

Killzone 2 is slightly above arcade as well. Using a .50 cal sniper in Killzone 2 is more challenging and realistic than using a .50 cal barretta in COD. If you played it ,you would know the difference.

just as arcady as Midnight Club is compared to GT or Forza imo. Should we start using that term? if a shooter imo has 2 out of 3 of these then yes it should:

-little to none recoil on the guns
-aiming assist
-fast pased gameplay

MW2 has all three of those, including perks, and unreastic disgusting animations. is calling it a arcade shooter to harsh? un-realistic shooter maybe?. now im not comparing to a true simulation of war like operation flashpoint 2 (cause we know that sucked) but along the lines of SOCOM, bad company 2, and killzone 2 (yes killzone 2 had aim assist).

Revolution316

No.

Why? Because most arcade games take skill...

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just as arcady as Midnight Club is compared to GT or Forza imo. Should we start using that term? if a shooter imo has 2 out of 3 of these then yes it should:

-little to none recoil on the guns
-aiming assist
-fast pased gameplay

MW2 has all three of those, including perks, and unreastic disgusting animations. is calling it a arcade shooter to harsh? un-realistic shooter maybe?. now im not comparing to a true simulation of war like operation flashpoint 2 (cause we know that sucked) but along the lines of SOCOM, bad company 2, and killzone 2 (yes killzone 2 had aim assist).

Rza_rectah

well it's not realistic or tactical so yes. it's like modern day quake.Ontain

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just as arcady as Midnight Club is compared to GT or Forza imo. Should we start using that term? if a shooter imo has 2 out of 3 of these then yes it should:

-little to none recoil on the guns
-aiming assist
-fast pased gameplay

MW2 has all three of those, including perks, and unreastic disgusting animations. is calling it a arcade shooter to harsh? un-realistic shooter maybe?. now im not comparing to a true simulation of war like operation flashpoint 2 (cause we know that sucked) but along the lines of SOCOM, bad company 2, and killzone 2 (yes killzone 2 had aim assist).

Revolution316

Aim assist is only for consoles. So consoles basically have only casual shooters.

Aim assist is only for consoles. So consoles basically have only casual shooters.

suntaice

[QUOTE="Ontain"]well it's not realistic or tactical so yes. it's like modern day quake.tirralirra

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Aim assist is only for consoles. So consoles basically have only casual shooters.

tirralirra

No, we don't have aim assist in PC on MW2.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="Ontain"]well it's not realistic or tactical so yes. it's like modern day quake.dark-warmachine

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Aim assist is only for consoles. So consoles basically have only casual shooters.

suntaice

No, we don't have aim assist in PC on MW2.

That's what I'd call it.

Anyone here played Arma 2? When I want my realistic, every bullet counts fun, I play that. When I want some fast-paced, quick action, I play MW2. They're both quite fun.

Considering the game's mechanics are entirely unrealistic, yes, it is an arcade shooter. Thats its purpose. Real combat frickin' sucks. Its slow, its boring, and there aren't enough explosions to entertain most people.

The only real part of MW2 are the weapon models, and even then, they've given the hollywood treatment in the way the game shows the characters/players handling them, how they fire, how they sound, etc.

Theres not a single realistic aspect about the game. Not one.

yes, MW2, Killzone 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2 are all arcade shooters

yes, MW2, Killzone 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2 are all arcade shooters

AdrianWerner

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yes, MW2, Killzone 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2 are all arcade shooters

dog_dirt

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yes, MW2, Killzone 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2 are all arcade shooters

AdrianWerner

I label it as a First Person Shooter.

I label it as a Call of Duty game I judge by those standards.

By what the genre is doing, and what Call of Duty has always been and been about.

TO me...i think it lost what made COD ...COD. COD always wasn't over realistic, and a lot of it's set pieces were exaggerated to say the least, but atleast with COD 4 the haunting aspects of War were still their. You were still a nameless soldier in a sense, there was still a bigger war going on. MW2 is like jerry bruckheimer and micheal bay made a movie. It's glorifying war, it's about heroes and villians, the grey area is gone, it's controversial to be controversial. The murky plot isn't deep, it's just murky.

So thats the story side of it. Gameplay wise, it's lost some of the intensity of MW1. To me while the enemy respawn was cheap, the games set pieces in MW1 were still rather intense, and the pacing was soo good. This time by, pacing was decent and all, but the intensity is down, the set pieces are rinse and repeated from MW1 in a lot of cases, and the gunplay is still weak.

I'm looking at you Bungie(Halo), Infinity Ward(Call of duty), and Valve(Half Life)...fix your weak ass gunplay.

oh and for multiplayer

I feel The Battlefield series has a better core experience to MW2...although MW 1 and 2 had a lot more content to its MP.

Halo 3 is just way more fun, and the community(while arrogant) is just more competitive. The game outside of its aim assist for the sniper rifle to me isn't as noobie.

Team Fortress 2 is just way better, and i feel Killzone 2s mp is what the MW games honestly should have been.

Rainbow Six Vegas 1 and 2 to me offer the more streamlined tactical game better than COD has done. Same with GRAW.

I would like to see a new Arena FPS though. A new Unreal or a Quake 5 or something along those lines.

Well I'd say of course it is an arcade shooter. Are there any realistic shooters which are popular? Realistic shooting just isn't fun or appealing to the mass audience.kimbokasteniv

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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"] you'd have to add crysis to that listdog_dirt

I'm looking at you Bungie(Halo), Infinity Ward(Call of duty), and Valve(Half Life)...fix your weak ass gunplay.

jg4xchamp

Only Half-Life has weak gunplay, the other two are fine. The only problem with them is that you've played essentially the same games for the last 8 years or so. It's not a matter of fixing the gunplay, it's a matter of saying "Yes, we're finally done with this. Let's do something else."

Still waiting for that first person shooter that's all about location damage rather than instant neutralization. Kinda like Dead Space, but that was more of a gimmick.

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I'm looking at you Bungie(Halo), Infinity Ward(Call of duty), and Valve(Half Life)...fix your weak ass gunplay.

FrozenLiquid

Only Half-Life has weak gunplay, the other two are fine. The only problem with them is that you've played essentially the same games for the last 8 years or so. It's not a matter of fixing the gunplay, it's a matter of saying "Yes, we're finally done with this. Let's do something else."

Still waiting for that first person shooter that's all about location damage rather than instant neutralization. Kinda like Dead Space, but that was more of a gimmick.

I'd label it a megacasual shooter, it's a better description.

ThePRAssassin

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I'd label it a megacasual shooter, it's a better description.

dakan45

Said it before and Im sticking to my guns...99% of shooters are the same. Run, gun, granade, kill, spawn, repeat. About the only exeption would be the OLDSCHOOL Ghost Recon games.