Is NeoGAF (SonyGAF?) On Sony's Payroll?

Article is written by a influential person in the industry Tim Dog and he exposes a major problem that is in the industry and one that must be taken care of immediately or the industry will crumble because of it.

NeoGAF is a gaming forum that at first glance is pretty simple, it’s easy to get to, and format is easy to navigate though. It is the #1 source for all of gaming media, IGN, Gamespot, Giantbomb, you name it, they get their info from NeoGAF. The first stories, the first breaking news, & talking points all start at NeoGAF. I cannot think of any other industry that is actually influenced by a forum in the way that the videogame industry is with NeoGAF. If you want answers, or you wanna rage at something, NeoGAF is the place to start the fire.

That is great, but the problem is that it is one sided and the forum is moderated by people who have a defined hate for anything Microsoft. It is known, and sadly it is accepted. Phil Spencer, Aaron, Larry, and all the Xbox guys know it, will they admit? Nope, but they do know it, it’s pretty obvious and really NeoGAFdoesn’t hide it.

Bish is the head moderator of NeoGAF, he is the guy that verifies insiders like cboat, thuway, and even Dodd at the time. For example, if you say Xbox is getting a downclock on its CPU speed because of Yields on the ESRAM like Thuway LIED about, it has to get vetted and Bish is the guy who gives the go ahead. The thing here is that these “insiders” who all seemed to come out in force right before the launch of xbox and ps4, all would only have news that was negative or undermining of Xbox. The downclock thread (http://www.NeoGAF.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869) is one where Thuway actively pushed out knowledge of a downclock, which as we all know now was a complete lie as the CPU was actually raised. The point though is that this actively went on, Bish supported Thuway, even banning Senninsage for a month for saying he had knowledge that the downclock wasn’t true. This is just one example of what goes on, lie is made up, thuway, dodd, cboat all chime in or whomever Bish wants to verify, and so be goes the anti-Microsoft bash fest.

If you wanna pretend that nothing is wrong, you can, as many do, but at least know one thing, the Bias will continue and won’t stop unless you stand up against it.

Full Article - By Tim Dog

Ok so what are your thoughts on NeoGAF? Anyone else think something should be done? I think its total bullshit that a site can influence the industry and consumers like this and the fact that the people in charge of this site are completely bias towards Sony. The majority of posters on NeoGAF operate as a hive mind driving the Sony propaganda machine in order to make up for the fact that the PS4 is an inferior system to the Xbox One, they are brainwashing people!

But here are some good posters on NeoGAF. Today I saw a famos poster by the name of statham call out NeoGAF on there bias in a thread that's only purpose served to shit on Xbox head, Phil Spencer. The poster had to resort to twitter because he was outnumbered on NeoGAF with not as many Xbox supporters as playstation.

MisterXMedia also had a nice article exposing NeoGAF and how CBoat is actually a NeoGAF moderator in disguise and he was one of the main people driving the Xbox One hate and lies at the beginning of this generation.

There's also the fact that Sony's head of third party relations Adam Boyes was the former boss of head moderator Bish!

I know that all of you know that NeoGAF is bias and is heavily skewing the outcome of this generation with their bullshit. I thought this topic was heavily relevant for System Wars as NeoGAF is essentially driving the massive system war and manipulating the outcome. What do you think should be done? Can something be done? Or do you completely disagree?

You wrote an article with another alias (btw, timdog is from SW and has had many accounts) about some other forum?

There are thousands of forums with their own communities. Who cares? There are many of us that don't go to that forum.

There is nothing relevant to SW to discuss here tbh.

This is SW, not forum wars.

I like pizza.

NeoGAF isnt just some forum, as stated in the article. It actually influences the state of the industry which no other forum does. This topic is veyr relevant to System Wars.

This is SW, not forum wars. Each forum on the net has some sort of slant based on the community, but who cares. The information is anecdotal and not scientific regarding perceived bias at some other forum and furthermore, even if there was a slant (because humanity is involved and it's going to happen), would you even care if it was a slat that was pro-Xbox? It is what it is.

Besides, you are running an advertisement for your other site with your newest account?

This is SW, not forum wars. Discussing other communities and complaining about other communities would and could incite community problems here and there.

I, for one, do not want to engage in some sort of forum war based on your anecdotal evidence about a community I don't even participate in. There is an agenda and I'm not on board and I don't think it's appropriate to complain about Xbox.com, Playstation, Nintendo, PC, and other forums perceived slights as there is nothing we can even do here at Gamespot.com about Neogaf.com.

Complain at the appropriate website or just let it go. May as well complain about wikipedia, GameTrailers, Edge, Eurogamer, Metacritic, Game Informer, and other communities/forums while we are at it. Influential or not, we are at Gamespot.com's forums.

Again, this is System Wars, not Forum Wars.

@SolidTy: What are you talking about? You actually think I wrote that article? I'm not running a single advertisement. The site I got the news from is Rectifygaming, it's not even an Xbox fansite or anything like that.

And as I said. Stop trying to be a mod with the whole forum wars vs system wars. The article makes it clear that NeoGAF isn't just some forum. It influences the industry and many industry people such as developers, insiders, and even executives post on there. There's a clear distinction between NeoGAF and other gaming forums that you must realize.

Do you have anything to say about the actual article?

Made it!

@kudotsunodafan: No, I have nothing to say about some other community I don't visit, because the article is not relevant to this site and I know Timdog for years and he's not someone I would ever choose to consciously read and take seriously as he was a well known super fan with his own agendas.

He was just another poster here, one that was well known to be incredibly biased. Reading some unknown site to click on something he posted about some other community's he doesn't agree with wouldn't even make sense. Nothing we can even do about that here.

It's all anecdotal and as far as I'm concerned I know him more than I know Neogaf, and I don't even go to Neogaf. I'm not going to form an opinion about some forum based on 3rd party information. Especially when I know Timdog himself has his own agendas.

Who cares. Let Timdog have his website to spout and let neogaf and every other site spout whatever it they want.

This is System Wars, not post any article Wars. We don't engage other communities here.

Even Jason Stathams pissed off.

Gaf has been confirmed a Sony shill site.

Why are mods not locking this?

Why would they lock it? Is it something you disagree with?

Because its true.

I dunno, don't read gaf too much. My experience though is that their forum does seem Sony biased overall, so thes accusations don't suprise me tbh.

I took this from NeoGAFs wiki. Seems many think the same. Would need more evidence though, im not familiar with the situations.

"The controversial Reddit community NeoFAG [sic] was dedicated to mocking the members and posts of NeoGAF. Many of the users of NeoFAG were former or current users who were dissatisfied with what they perceived as the site's bias towards Sony, shift towards left-wing politics, banning of dissenting opinions, and favoritism among moderators.[7] NeoFAG was banned along with four other subreddits, and the userbase has since migrated towards other platforms such as Voat."

Doesnt have to be false or true to still not be SW related.

Neogaf has been a confirmed Sony shill site for quite some time. They lost a bunch of respect with the whole CBOAT thing. Neogaf used to be the defacto place for leakers, and devs to secretly release info to the general public. Neogaf took that, and created fake leakers. They basically went from reporting gaming news, to creating it themselves. With Sony's money in their pockets as incentive.

They've largely lost their credibility over there. Almost all leakers these days use reddit or twitter to leak stuff anyways, making Neogaf largely irrelevant.

Tim dog is influential? Isnt he an SW troll (PNF?)

lol timdog was a misterxmedia groupie

COMMUNITY ARTICLE- NEOGAF & IT’S BIAS, BY TIM DOG

*facepalm*

Gaf is definitely a Sony biased site. Everyone at Gaf is allowed to bash everything MS but the second you post anything negative about Sony it's an instant ban. The worst part was during the lead up to the launch of the Xbox One Neo Gaf fabricated false information damaging XB1's chances for success using Fake insiders who were supposedly vetted. the Neo Gaf insiders pretended to work at MS and some major 3rd party. Turns out ALL of Gaf's insiders were just regular fanboy posters that didn't work in the industry. To make matters worse several other gaming media sites ran with Gaf's fabricated stories. The Mods at Gaf moderate any news that could possibly make Xbox look better than PS.

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NeoGAF has a whole host of other issues like banning members outside their group-think mantra for whatever reason, but be that as it may, it has no relevance in SystemWars here. Take your conspiracy to the SW Lounge to vent.