Is Nintendo ruining gaming?

I am pondering the question about this, because it seems that both Sony & Microsoft are now coming out with motion sensors, or whatever to compete with the Wii. Also, there's rumors going on that Microsoft will completely eliminate the Pro models & won't be including the component HD AV cables along with the Arcade model (which never happens anyway).

Correct me on those things if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Nintendo is kind of ruining gaming. I'm also kind of hoping that Microsoft & Sony won't stoop down to Nintendo's level, with not much graphical updates (or even worse, lowering the graphics) in their next-gen consoles because of this.

What do you think?

I am pondering the question about this, because it seems that both Sony & Microsoft are now coming out with motion sensors, or whatever to compete with the Wii. Also, there's rumors going on that Microsoft will completely eliminate the Pro models & won't be including the component HD AV cables along with the Arcade model (which never happens anyway).

Correct me on those things if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Nintendo is kind of ruining gaming. I'm also kind of hoping that Microsoft & Sony won't stoop down to Nintendo's level, with not much graphical updates (or even worse, lowering the graphics) in their next-gen consoles because of this.

What do you think?

garland51

So you telling me that Nintendo is making microsoft and sony decisions.

If anything Nintendo is still trying to hold onto the past (cartoony, enjoyable, fun), as opposed to MS and Sony which are traversing down the road of realism, i.e. the road of no return - people have become spoiled

I am pondering the question about this, because it seems that both Sony & Microsoft are now coming out with motion sensors, or whatever to compete with the Wii. Also, there's rumors going on that Microsoft will completely eliminate the Pro models & won't be including the component HD AV cables along with the Arcade model (which never happens anyway).

Correct me on those things if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Nintendo is kind of ruining gaming. I'm also kind of hoping that Microsoft & Sony won't stoop down to Nintendo's level, with not much graphical updates (or even worse, lowering the graphics) in their next-gen consoles because of this.

What do you think?

garland51

So you fear they're going to ruin gaming by making graphics worse?

They would never lower the graphics from their previous console nobody is that stupid they will improve some. Also I don't think Nintendo is ruining gaming they still make very fun games and Gaming is about fun.

My opinion is the complete opposite.

Um, i dont like nintendo, but people seem to like there products, idk why?

I don't believe it.

Fanboy type behavior is the only thing ruining gaming.

the company thats actually trying to bring something new to the market is ruining gaming??????? neverrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! Rahnyc4

See, I wouldn't say their bringing something new, they're just keeping up with the old.

Not for me, lol. As there certainly is no shortage of great looking titles on the horizon for PS3/360. If you do not like what they are doing, just ignore it, focus on supporting the games and systems that appeal to you and move on. Afterall, it is not like we are on the verge of there being nothing but games like Wii Fit and Cooking Mama across all platforms. Until it gets to that point (which it never will) just relax.

they're just trying to appeal to the crowd who did like the Wii motion sensors, Wii just set the bar with their sales, sony and microsoft won't match it, but they see that it'sdefinitely a winning opportunity to make some money.

Ruining? No, they're just doing what they can, if sony and microsoft choose to make cool gadgets instead of good games, that's their fault in the end, get mad with them.

No. Gaming going in a direction you don't like isn't the same as the collapse of all gaming.

I am pondering the question about this, because it seems that both Sony & Microsoft are now coming out with motion sensors, or whatever to compete with the Wii. Also, there's rumors going on that Microsoft will completely eliminate the Pro models & won't be including the component HD AV cables along with the Arcade model (which never happens anyway).

Correct me on those things if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Nintendo is kind of ruining gaming. I'm also kind of hoping that Microsoft & Sony won't stoop down to Nintendo's level, with not much graphical updates (or even worse, lowering the graphics) in their next-gen consoles because of this.

What do you think?

garland51

Is Nintendo holding guns at Microsoft and Sony's heads?
Was it not entirely Microsoft and Sony's choice to develop motion sensing technology?
Does saying "Buh...But t3h c00l guy (Nintendo) d1d 17!" exempt Microsoft and Sony from any criticism? Did saying that ever work for you?

My opinion is the complete opposite.

awssk8er716

I agree with this. Nintendo still makes their games the way I like them. They use to e single player experiences with a huge focus on carefully crafted game design. Now they veer more towards open worlds where you do watever or online multiplayer.

Prescision design seems like a thing of thepast now :(

To answer your question , you might want to check the other threads that seem to ask the same question every week

If anything Nintendo is still trying to hold onto the past (cartoony, enjoyable, fun), as opposed to MS and Sony which are traversing down the road of realism, i.e. the road of no return - people have become spoiled

TalesofRaGnArOk

yup devs are forced to make realistic graphics on 360 and PS3 and their games are not fun or enjoyable as well :roll:.

I do think Nintendo is ruining gaming with Wii. Games are meant to be for gamers...not non-gamers

Gaming as we know it only exists because of Nintendo.

Short answer: no

Long answer: They're introducing a new audience into the gaming world which will cause many to progress into the other more "hardcore" games. If anything, they're doing the complete opposite of killing the franchise. They're not completely focusing on the now audience (nor are they completely abandoning it either) but onto the future audience. It's business and it's a good thing for everyone weather you're the consumer or not. If you honestly believe Nintendo is killing gaming, then please don't ever pick up another gaming controller ever again as it's very embarrassing share an interst with someone with that kind of level of intelligence.

Nintendo topping sales : probably Nintendo running gaming : no way in hellWings_008

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If anything Nintendo is still trying to hold onto the past (cartoony, enjoyable, fun), as opposed to MS and Sony which are traversing down the road of realism, i.e. the road of no return - people have become spoiled

sikanderahmed

yup devs are forced to make realistic graphics on 360 and PS3 and their games are not fun or enjoyable as well :roll:.

I do think Nintendo is ruining gaming with Wii. Games are meant to be for gamers...not non-gamers

Thank you for proving my point.

Once you start playing graphically realistic games, you can't go back. You can't appreciate something that doesn't meet up with your visual standards. I agree that realistic games can sometimes be fun and enjoyable, but they have no charm. Realistic graphics place restrictions that more cartoony games dont' have to deal with - you can do anything in a fantasy world. There are no limitations.

And videogames are not supposed to be 'just' for gamers. You're already a lost cause. You are visually spoiled

They could have ruined gaming, but thankfully most third party developers weren't dumb enough to truly buy into the Wii. The most you can say its doing now is leading the industry down what looks to be a rather pointless path with motion control since I would rather just use a mouse than stand around moving the reticule with my arms or such which would be the best case scenario. If however developers somehow actually come up with a really good use for motion control then I will praise Nintendo for that, but I don't see that happening personally.

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[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

If anything Nintendo is still trying to hold onto the past (cartoony, enjoyable, fun), as opposed to MS and Sony which are traversing down the road of realism, i.e. the road of no return - people have become spoiled

TalesofRaGnArOk

yup devs are forced to make realistic graphics on 360 and PS3 and their games are not fun or enjoyable as well :roll:.

I do think Nintendo is ruining gaming with Wii. Games are meant to be for gamers...not non-gamers

Thank you for proving my point.

Once you start playing graphically realistic games, you can't go back. You can't appreciate something that doesn't meet up with your visual standards. I agree that realistic games can sometimes be fun and enjoyable, but they have no charm. Realistic graphics place restrictions that more cartoony games dont' have to deal with - you can do anything in a fantasy world. There are no limitations.

And videogames are not supposed to be 'just' for gamers. You're already a lost cause. You are visually spoiled

*facepalm* yes you cant go back to pathetic graphics like wii but you know there are cel shaded games like prince of persia that dont look realstic, also did you forget braid? there are many non realistic looking yet awesome looking games on 360/PS3

Fact: If you honestly think Nintendo is ruining gaming, you're a sad excuse for a gamer.dr-venkman

Now that was harsh on what you & vdastampede posted. I'm not saying this as fact, just opinion. I just don't want MS & Sony to turn into them by pulling out shovelware titles.

No. No they aren't. They have done nothing to provoke such thoughts.

I would say no (obviously, you people know my stance by now). What I don't get is how the same people who complain about the there not being enough "gamer" games on the Wii compared to the 360 or PS3 say Nintendo has somehow destroyed all those games when they aren't even on the console. No that I expect a competent answer out of SW.

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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

yup devs are forced to make realistic graphics on 360 and PS3 and their games are not fun or enjoyable as well :roll:.

I do think Nintendo is ruining gaming with Wii. Games are meant to be for gamers...not non-gamers

sikanderahmed

Thank you for proving my point.

Once you start playing graphically realistic games, you can't go back. You can't appreciate something that doesn't meet up with your visual standards. I agree that realistic games can sometimes be fun and enjoyable, but they have no charm. Realistic graphics place restrictions that more cartoony games dont' have to deal with - you can do anything in a fantasy world. There are no limitations.

And videogames are not supposed to be 'just' for gamers. You're already a lost cause. You are visually spoiled

*facepalm* yes you cant go back to pathetic graphics like wii but you know there are cel shaded games like prince of persia that dont look realstic, also did you forget braid? there are many non realistic looking yet awesome looking games on 360/PS3

True, all Ps3/Xbox 360 games:

Once you go realilistic you can go back.

I just don't want MS & Sony to turn into them by pulling out shovelware titles.

garland51

Yeah because Lips, Singstar, Buzz, and all those other super hardcore titles totally aren't the equvialent of Wii Fit and Wii Music.

FYI, Nintendo has made plenty of quality games this gen.

If you honestly think Nintendo is ruining gaming now, then you're basically saying they must have ruined gaming back with the NES.

I am pondering the question about this, because it seems that both Sony & Microsoft are now coming out with motion sensors, or whatever to compete with the Wii. Also, there's rumors going on that Microsoft will completely eliminate the Pro models & won't be including the component HD AV cables along with the Arcade model (which never happens anyway).

Correct me on those things if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Nintendo is kind of ruining gaming. I'm also kind of hoping that Microsoft & Sony won't stoop down to Nintendo's level, with not much graphical updates (or even worse, lowering the graphics) in their next-gen consoles because of this.

What do you think?

garland51

[QUOTE="garland51"]I just don't want MS & Sony to turn into them by pulling out shovelware titles.

Silverbond

Yeah because Lips, Singstar, Buzz, and all those other super hardcore titles totally aren't the equvialent of Wii Fit and Wii Music.

FYI, Nintendo has made plenty of quality games this gen.

You're wasting your time bud. I am still waiting for a competent argument as to Nintendo ruining gaming. The opening does not qualify neither does anyone in this thread.

If you honestly think Nintendo is ruining gaming now, then you're basically saying they must have ruined gaming back with the NES.

Brawl578

[QUOTE="garland51"]I just don't want MS & Sony to turn into them by pulling out shovelware titles.

Silverbond

Yeah because Lips, Singstar, Buzz, and all those other super hardcore titles totally aren't the equvialent of Wii Fit and Wii Music.

FYI, Nintendo has made plenty of quality games this gen.

(I'm agreeing with you I'm just adding to your post and saying Sony had Shovelware on its consoles (PS1 and PS2)

[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

If anything Nintendo is still trying to hold onto the past (cartoony, enjoyable, fun), as opposed to MS and Sony which are traversing down the road of realism, i.e. the road of no return - people have become spoiled

sikanderahmed

yup devs are forced to make realistic graphics on 360 and PS3 and their games are not fun or enjoyable as well :roll:.

I do think Nintendo is ruining gaming with Wii. Games are meant to be for gamers...not non-gamers

Games were supposed to be fun and made for everyone. Did everyone forget that?

No.

Activision is ruining gaming. A lot of casuals who bought the PS2 last gen bought a Wii this gen, but the core gamers are keeping the PS3 and 360 selling well. Its the DLC, microtransactions, and random crap that companies like Activision pull on gamers that is truely killing gaming.

The Wii is actually keeping gaming alive and in the mainstream.

No.

Activision is ruining gaming. A lot of casuals who bought the PS2 last gen bought a Wii this gen, but the core gamers are keeping the PS3 and 360 selling well. Its the DLC, microtransactions, and random crap that companies like Activision pull on gamers that is truely killing gaming.

The Wii is actually keeping gaming alive and in the mainstream.

Well they were have the guts to pull the motion sensor out and in turn became the innovator of the generation. We just have to accept that fact even though

that catered only to casuals taste buds rather than core gamers. Without them gaming will be virtually all dudes playing it so I say the opposite despite their

motives of dumbing down the games.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Fact: If you honestly think Nintendo is ruining gaming, you're a sad excuse for a gamer.garland51

Now that was harsh on what you & vdastampede posted. I'm not saying this as fact, just opinion. I just don't want MS & Sony to turn into them by pulling out shovelware titles.

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]the company thats actually trying to bring something new to the market is ruining gaming??????? neverrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! Yandere

See, I wouldn't say their bringing something new, they're just keeping up with the old.

I remember back when every console had a remote for a controller with a trigger in front and a nunchuck attatchment.[/SARCASM]

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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

yup devs are forced to make realistic graphics on 360 and PS3 and their games are not fun or enjoyable as well :roll:.

I do think Nintendo is ruining gaming with Wii. Games are meant to be for gamers...not non-gamers

sikanderahmed

Thank you for proving my point.

Once you start playing graphically realistic games, you can't go back. You can't appreciate something that doesn't meet up with your visual standards. I agree that realistic games can sometimes be fun and enjoyable, but they have no charm. Realistic graphics place restrictions that more cartoony games dont' have to deal with - you can do anything in a fantasy world. There are no limitations.

And videogames are not supposed to be 'just' for gamers. You're already a lost cause. You are visually spoiled

*facepalm* yes you cant go back to pathetic graphics like wii but you know there are cel shaded games like prince of persia that dont look realstic, also did you forget braid? there are many non realistic looking yet awesome looking games on 360/PS3

Really?

And downloadable games don't count (as some previous poster seemed to think they did)