Is Nintendo ruining gaming?

[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

If anything Nintendo is still trying to hold onto the past (cartoony, enjoyable, fun), as opposed to MS and Sony which are traversing down the road of realism, i.e. the road of no return - people have become spoiled

sikanderahmed

yup devs are forced to make realistic graphics on 360 and PS3 and their games are not fun or enjoyable as well :roll:.

I do think Nintendo is ruining gaming with Wii. Games are meant to be for gamers...not non-gamers

i hope you dont really think that way...

games are a form of entertainment for anybody to enjoy. gamers are just people that enjoy the hobby more than others... and are a whiny bunch, apparently

xbox not including HD cables is not following Nintendo's 'lack of HD' strategy, its following sony's lack of including HD cables strategy

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]the company thats actually trying to bring something new to the market is ruining gaming??????? neverrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! Burning-Sludge

See, I wouldn't say their bringing something new, they're just keeping up with the old.

I remember back when every console had a remote for a controller with a trigger in front and a nunchuck attatchment.[/SARCASM]

I'm not really talking about the console, I'm talking about the games and how they keep old IPs.

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

I remember back when every console had a remote for a controller with a trigger in front and a nunchuck attatchment.[/SARCASM]

Yandere

I'm not really talking about the console, I'm talking about the games and how they keep old IPs.

Why throw out perfectly good IPs? It has to be better than taking the same games, putting a coat of paint on them and swaping out a few themes, and calling it diffrent.

I don't think Nintendo's ruining gaming, but I was put off by the whole Wiimote thing. Thought it was kind of stupid to use that as your main controller and still kinda do. I might give the system a chance later, but the Wiimote is a huge turnoff.

I don't see how Nintendo is ruining gaming. If it was obvious that Nintendo was ruining gaming, then why would Microsoft and Sony take a similar approach, (in terms of controllers)? I think Nintendo has helped some see that motion controls work, and that they can become the norm in the future. I applaud Nintendo for taking the risk they took with the Wii and helping other companies take on motion controls.

Not at all its not like the 360 hasn't been profitable in this economy, man people way overeact to the success of the wiii.

Nintendo is not ruining gaming. They found a new way to make money. The 360/PS3 are VERY different from the Wii. The Wii can be cheap with motion controls, the 360 can be cheap with Natal and a standard controler, and the PS3 can be more expensive with motin controls, PSeye, the mic, and standard controller.

All in all the PS3 has everything but at a higher price. They PSeye, mic, and wand will PROBABLY cost about $150 in a bundle, Natal will be $50-$75, and the Wii is the Wii.

What I like about Sony's plan is it will be able to do anything Natal can with the mic and PSeye and anything the Wii can with the wand but most importantly it leaves all of these as an option (unlike Nintendo) and allows devs to do whatever you want with them. My opinion BTW.

They are simply expanding the audience and I don't mind casual games as long as they don't make me look like an idiot.. *Stares at Wii shovelwares..*

Otherwise, it's both Sony and MS who are being greedy so it's not all Nitty's fault there.

They are simply expanding the audience and I don't mind casual games as long as they don't make me look like an idiot.. *Stares at Wii shovelwares..*

Otherwise, it's both Sony and MS who are being greedy so it's not all Nitty's fault there.

sanim02

Did Sony ruin gaming with their weak hardware with the PS1 and PS2?

Did Sony ruin gaming with their weak hardware with the PS1 and PS2?

magiciandude

Nintendo has been around for what 100 years or so as a company, and has saved video games once already, as far as I am concerned they have earned a free pass to do whatever they want.

lulz nintendo made gameing and now they are taking it backz :P

Where did the TC get the idea? I dont know.

Is he kidding? Probably

Dude, nintendo is merely topping sales because the Grandmas and childs buy it, and many who own PS3 or 360 has one for sheetz and giggles/for 1 or another good game it has. Appart from that core gamers will always go for ps3 360. Nintendo isnt runnig gamming, for motion sensing doesnt run the industry.

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Did Sony ruin gaming with their weak hardware with the PS1 and PS2?

Pvtlongsoung

and showelvare that no one cared about when it was on the ps2 but as soon it gets ported to the wii its ruining gaming

If you belong in the group that thinks motion controls are gimmick and shouldn't be used for "real games" then I think you could say yes.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Fact: If you honestly think Nintendo is ruining gaming, you're a sad excuse for a gamer.garland51

Now that was harsh on what you & vdastampede posted. I'm not saying this as fact, just opinion. I just don't want MS & Sony to turn into them by pulling out shovelware titles.

You totally missout the Ps2 last gen right?

@Topic: If ruining the gaming mean bring more gamers to it, Nintendo is totally ruining it, shame on you Nintendo... Shame on you...

I am pondering the question about this, because it seems that both Sony & Microsoft are now coming out with motion sensors, or whatever to compete with the Wii. Also, there's rumors going on that Microsoft will completely eliminate the Pro models & won't be including the component HD AV cables along with the Arcade model (which never happens anyway).

Correct me on those things if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Nintendo is kind of ruining gaming. I'm also kind of hoping that Microsoft & Sony won't stoop down to Nintendo's level, with not much graphical updates (or even worse, lowering the graphics) in their next-gen consoles because of this.

What do you think?

garland51

Why does everyone hate Nintendo and think they are running some conspiracy because they are trying to make games, everyone can enjoy?

No, they're expanding and changing gaming.

change =/= ruin

No they aren't. The fact that the Wii, and DS expanded the industry so much goes to show how much they care about keeping the industry alive.

No... they just don't care about "core" gaming anymore and are going an entirely different route. More like a family-friendly commercialization than a "ruining" of gaming.

No... they just don't care about "core" gaming anymore and are going an entirely different route. More like a family-friendly commercialization than a "ruining" of gaming.

foxhound_fox

I guess that's why they're making Metroid Other M?

I guess that's why they're making Metroid Other M?

goblaa

A lot of things are ruining gaming these days.

Nintendo, motion controls, overpriced DLC, shorter than average games. Activision, over saturated FPS market, the current economy...

And so on and so forth.

No... they just don't care about "core" gaming anymore and are going an entirely different route. More like a family-friendly commercialization than a "ruining" of gaming.

foxhound_fox

yes, because motion control is the devil :roll:

but seriously, if all 3 systems have motion controls, that would simply force the devs to find a way to make motion controls work for different genres. it wouldnt impact gaming negatively at all

ya but sony and M$ have seen what there doing, and how last gen hardware is out selling ps3's and 360's, now Ms is doing the natal thing and sony the wond thing. now what if next gen... the new xbox is only going to use natal and the next sony console will only use the wond/ i would stop gameing is this was to happen

iamshivy

Nintendo is attempting to rejuvenate the environment with a new method of gameplay. So far it seems to be going in their favor.

Sony and Microsoft are doing their best to create similar styles of gameplay while retaining their dignity.

Lets look at it this way: Liquor drinkers that prefer wine or whiskey look at beer and say its ruining alcohol, while beer just shrugs and counts its money.

The savage beatdown you've been given by just about everyone on this thread should be a solid indicator of how people feel in general about your statement.

Seems to me, IMO, that the only thing Nintendo has done with the Wii and the DS, is expand gaming out to welcome and include new consumers. It would seem to me, that can only benefit the industry. I dunno, that's just my two cents.

Other companies have continued to provide a better experience for me this gen than Nintendo, whatever Nintendo is doing is their business so as long as it doesn't affect my games they aren't ruining anything for me. The only sad bit here to me is that a great dev. like Nintendo is putting their resources on stuff I have no interest in.

[QUOTE="iamshivy"]ya but sony and M$ have seen what there doing, and how last gen hardware is out selling ps3's and 360's, now Ms is doing the natal thing and sony the wond thing. now what if next gen... the new xbox is only going to use natal and the next sony console will only use the wond/ i would stop gameing is this was to happen

foxhound_fox

So sony's gimmick of 6-axis worked and sold billions of consoles World Wide? No sony dont rely on gimmicks like the new wand technology to help them boost there sales and MS with Natal? I must be from another dimension as these gimmicks dont exist in this world.

Protip: Don't pay attention to the wii

"Once you start playing graphically realistic games, you can't go back. You can't appreciate something that doesn't meet up with your visual standards."

Wow. The idiocy in this quote is incomprehensible. If you actually feel that way, you ruin gaming for yourself more than any company could ever even remotely come close to.

If you cannot appreciate games like DeBlob, Muramasa, or even the Wii version of Force Unleashed which looks horrendous but controls like a dream, you're just an incredible moron. And if you feel that those realistic-ish attempts at recreating bad action movies and putting playable action sequences inbetween cutscenes are in any way superior to what Nintendo and other developers have been doing on the Wii since Q2-3 2008, you fail at a so unimaginable high level that even Patrick Stewart himself facepalming, dressed in a nightgown of facepalming Patrck Stewart couldn't express the amount of fail you'd exhibit.

God.

I don't think any company is ruining gaming - they're just providing more choices.

However, I can't be the only one who sees irony in claiming Nintendo is ruining gaming when the other companies are the ones leading the charge for more expensive games, extra charges for DLC, extra fees for online gaming, etc. Now you have Activision stating that they want to raise prices even more and other companies are decrying the rental and used games markets.

It seems to me like there are greater concerns floating around in the marketplace than whether or not one of the companies is offering you a product that you don't like.mattbbpl

I totally agree.

In fact, I think a far greater argument could be made that so-called hardcore gamers are ruining gaming.