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#51 Hoffgod
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I'm surprised how anyone could put up Capcom. Don't take it the wrong way, they make some great games, but they make some bad, bad games.

Companies like Blizzard and Valve consistantly put out games that are Game of the Year nominies.

I'd put Blizzard above everyone else, closely followed by Valve and Nintendo.

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Everyone does. Look at Nintendo and them putting out Donkey Kong Barrel Blast. A bad game, yes. However, the only way around this seems to be the Blizzard and Valve route which is to take a long time to put a game out. While that may make for a higher great-to-crap ratio, I'd rather have 8 games a year, seven excellent, one crap, than an excellent game every year or two and no crap.
Konami only publishes MGS. I think you meant Fox Hound.Sir-Marwin105
Kojima Productions is a subsidiary of Konami, so it's effectively part of Konami. I count it as part of Konami because making the distinction really seems like splitting hairs.
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#52 EwokAssassin
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[QUOTE="Nin360"] Lets not forget that they have the only game of the year contender this generation aside from oblivion, where you don't have a gun and blast stuff. So what do you think? I think on some genre's they are. Some genre's they have not touched. I beleive pound for pound they are still the heavyweight champions of the world.laughingman42

Umm... No... If the PS2 didn't pound the Gamecube and the PS1 didn't pound the N64 then you might have been onto something. Nintendo hasn't been on the top for decades and I doubt they ever wiill. It's only a matter of time before the Wii fad is long gone and forgotten. Also, the chance that a Wii game actually wins game of the year is slim to none. The PS3 or 360 will be king. I just don't know which.

Nintendo as a dev, not nintendo as a console maker, but you do make a point. How many devs could keep a console alive with almost no good third party suport? as for the wii and not having a GOTY, SMG is now the highest rated game of all time. I think it has a shot

It was rated no higher and Crysis or Halo 3. Those are other games in contention. SMG can't win at that rate.

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#53 m_machine024
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I don't think so.In my opinion Firaxis and Blizzard > Nintendo

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What games did Fixaxis make? Just wanna know.
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#54 i_like_pizza
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I don't think there's any question. They have more high-quality titles than anyone else, by far. No one even comes near them in that respect, and every single year, they seem to have a GOTY contender. If they win this year with SMG, that will be 3 since '01 (starting with Prime, and last year, TP got more GOTY's than any other game even though it did't get it here).

There are some other great devs that put out a couple of great games every once in a while, such as Valve. But Nintendo will put out dozens of AAA titles in the amount of time that it takes many devs to come up with one.

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#55 Hoffgod
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I don't think so.In my opinion Firaxis and Blizzard > Nintendo

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What games did Fixaxis make? Just wanna know.

They make the Sid Meyer games.
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="EwokAssassin"]

[QUOTE="Nin360"] Lets not forget that they have the only game of the year contender this generation aside from oblivion, where you don't have a gun and blast stuff. So what do you think? I think on some genre's they are. Some genre's they have not touched. I beleive pound for pound they are still the heavyweight champions of the world.EwokAssassin

Umm... No... If the PS2 didn't pound the Gamecube and the PS1 didn't pound the N64 then you might have been onto something. Nintendo hasn't been on the top for decades and I doubt they ever wiill. It's only a matter of time before the Wii fad is long gone and forgotten. Also, the chance that a Wii game actually wins game of the year is slim to none. The PS3 or 360 will be king. I just don't know which.

Nintendo as a dev, not nintendo as a console maker, but you do make a point. How many devs could keep a console alive with almost no good third party suport? as for the wii and not having a GOTY, SMG is now the highest rated game of all time. I think it has a shot

It was rated no higher and Crysis or Halo 3. Those are other games in contention. SMG can't win at that rate.

You say this as if you have a choice in the matter.

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#57 MetroidPrimePwn
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I don't think so.In my opinion Firaxis and Blizzard > Nintendo

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What games did Fixaxis make? Just wanna know.

Sid Meier's Gettysburg!
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
Sid Meier's Civilization 3
Sid Meier's Sim Golf
Civilization IV
Sid Meier's Railroads

And soon: Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution

Those are Firaxis' biggest claims to fame.

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#58 BoG_
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Whoever made Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. They rox.
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#59 Anthonydaking
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For kids yer, For adults no, We like to play big boy games like halo 3

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#60 Khansoul
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No!

They are the best at rehashing old characters though!

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#61 Cyber-
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For kids yer, For adults no, We like to play big boy games like halo 3

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#62 laughingman42
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For kids yer, For adults no, We like to play big boy games like halo 3

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LOL. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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#63 Hoffgod
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For kids yer, For adults no, We like to play big boy games like halo 3

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Yes sir, take your kids and set them down for a nice, kid friendly game of Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. Nothing says kiddy like blistering difficulty!
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#64 ChinoJamesKeene
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Whoever made Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. They rox.BoG_

Team Ico who are a Sony owned first party. Those games are also special to me.

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#65 Cyber-
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[QUOTE="Anthonydaking"]

For kids yer, For adults no, We like to play big boy games like halo 3

Hoffgod

Yes sir, take your kids and set them down for a nice, kid friendly game of Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. Nothing says kiddy like blistering difficulty!

or RE UC or RE 4 :lol:

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#66 Sig12047
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Yeah, I think Nintendo is the best and Blizzard is a ways after them. I loved Diablo II, but Nintendo has had way more hits and puts them out more frequently.
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#67 ArisShadows
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Them and Blizzard, ya.

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#68 elbow2k
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[QUOTE="elbow2k"]>

I'm surprised how anyone could put up Capcom. Don't take it the wrong way, they make some great games, but they make some bad, bad games.

Companies like Blizzard and Valve consistantly put out games that are Game of the Year nominies.

I'd put Blizzard above everyone else, closely followed by Valve and Nintendo.

Hoffgod

Everyone does. Look at Nintendo and them putting out Donkey Kong Barrel Blast. A bad game, yes. However, the only way around this seems to be the Blizzard and Valve route which is to take a long time to put a game out. While that may make for a higher great-to-crap ratio, I'd rather have 8 games a year, seven excellent, one crap, than an excellent game every year or two and no crap.
Konami only publishes MGS. I think you meant Fox Hound.Sir-Marwin105
Kojima Productions is a subsidiary of Konami, so it's effectively part of Konami. I count it as part of Konami because making the distinction really seems like splitting hairs.

To each their own. Blizzard may take a long time to make games, but the ones they do are soo amazing and soo deep that it's almost impossible to scold them. Same goes with Valve.

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#69 EwokAssassin
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[QUOTE="EwokAssassin"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="EwokAssassin"]

[QUOTE="Nin360"] Lets not forget that they have the only game of the year contender this generation aside from oblivion, where you don't have a gun and blast stuff. So what do you think? I think on some genre's they are. Some genre's they have not touched. I beleive pound for pound they are still the heavyweight champions of the world.laughingman42

Umm... No... If the PS2 didn't pound the Gamecube and the PS1 didn't pound the N64 then you might have been onto something. Nintendo hasn't been on the top for decades and I doubt they ever wiill. It's only a matter of time before the Wii fad is long gone and forgotten. Also, the chance that a Wii game actually wins game of the year is slim to none. The PS3 or 360 will be king. I just don't know which.

Nintendo as a dev, not nintendo as a console maker, but you do make a point. How many devs could keep a console alive with almost no good third party suport? as for the wii and not having a GOTY, SMG is now the highest rated game of all time. I think it has a shot

It was rated no higher and Crysis or Halo 3. Those are other games in contention. SMG can't win at that rate.

You say this as if you have a choice in the matter.

Crysis seems to be the shoe-in for this year based on te reviews I've read for each. SMG really has the least chance of most out of the three. Crysis is considered the most next-gen game thus far. SMG really can't contend with that. I'm just being a realist not a Sheep like you evidently are.

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#70 p3anut
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Retro Studios but that's Nintendo. But yeah Nintendo is one of the best developers.
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#71 mojito1988
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Nintendo is #1 again im sure you are all shocked by that lol.
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#72 Nin360
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[QUOTE="Nin360"] Lets not forget that they have the only game of the year contender this generation aside from oblivion, where you don't have a gun and blast stuff. So what do you think? I think on some genre's they are. Some genre's they have not touched. I beleive pound for pound they are still the heavyweight champions of the world.EwokAssassin

Umm... No... If the PS2 didn't pound the Gamecube and the PS1 didn't pound the N64 then you might have been onto something. Nintendo hasn't been on the top for decades and I doubt they ever wiill. It's only a matter of time before the Wii fad is long gone and forgotten. Also, the chance that a Wii game actually wins game of the year is slim to none. The PS3 or 360 will be king. I just don't know which.

Sony won the last 2 gens not because of Nintendo development. 3rd party support and bad hardware decicions. Nintendo had 3 game of the years last generation. How many did sony have? Oh nevermind./

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#73 hiho24
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Everyone seems to be using the phrase "rehash" when it comes to Nintendo games. Yet the quality of the game is completely disreguarded.

Nintendo cant really be compared as a dev, they are much to large, I saw a couple comments about Bioware being one of the best but when you look at the two side-by-side Nintendo has released more 1st party titles this year then Bioware has in their existence.

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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]Blizzard, Bioware and valve kick the Crap out of nintendodeavincalhoun

bioware last game just got 8.5 and what did nintendos last wii game get.

6.0

6.0

Donno if you count either of them as Nintendo games though.

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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="EwokAssassin"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="EwokAssassin"]

[QUOTE="Nin360"] Lets not forget that they have the only game of the year contender this generation aside from oblivion, where you don't have a gun and blast stuff. So what do you think? I think on some genre's they are. Some genre's they have not touched. I beleive pound for pound they are still the heavyweight champions of the world.EwokAssassin

Umm... No... If the PS2 didn't pound the Gamecube and the PS1 didn't pound the N64 then you might have been onto something. Nintendo hasn't been on the top for decades and I doubt they ever wiill. It's only a matter of time before the Wii fad is long gone and forgotten. Also, the chance that a Wii game actually wins game of the year is slim to none. The PS3 or 360 will be king. I just don't know which.

Nintendo as a dev, not nintendo as a console maker, but you do make a point. How many devs could keep a console alive with almost no good third party suport? as for the wii and not having a GOTY, SMG is now the highest rated game of all time. I think it has a shot

It was rated no higher and Crysis or Halo 3. Those are other games in contention. SMG can't win at that rate.

You say this as if you have a choice in the matter.

Crysis seems to be the shoe-in for this year based on te reviews I've read for each. SMG really has the least chance of most out of the three. Crysis is considered the most next-gen game thus far. SMG really can't contend with that. I'm just being a realist not a Sheep like you evidently are.

well the fact is that if you go looks at Game rankings SMG is the highest rated game ever, numero uno, and you can say only GS scores count but they dont mean that much when it comes to GOTY, because it is a collective decision of the editors not just the opinion of one editor. (halo got a 9.7 and still wasnt GOTY)

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#76 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]Blizzard, Bioware and valve kick the Crap out of nintendouser_nat

bioware last game just got 8.5 and what did nintendos last wii game get.

6.0

6.0

Donno if you count either of them as Nintendo games though.

one is a sega game. and the other came out before SMG (not only that it is one of the worst reviews ever. two words "mii suport")

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#77 HarlockJC
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Well if it helps any GI gave Nintendo developer of the year last year.....
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#78 Blackbond
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I don't know if their the best dev but they are damn sure at the top of it.
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#79 BovinesOnPaska
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guerilla games says no, teh cell, teh killzone too.
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#80 user_nat
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[QUOTE="user_nat"][QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]Blizzard, Bioware and valve kick the Crap out of nintendolaughingman42

bioware last game just got 8.5 and what did nintendos last wii game get.

6.0

6.0

Donno if you count either of them as Nintendo games though.

one is a sega game. and the other came out before SMG (not only that it is one of the worst reviews ever. two words "mii suport")

I thought it was both Nintendo and Sega, anyhoo.. wasn't aware Fire Emblem came out before SMG.

Point is, Nintendo do make a lot of fairly average games. (and some of the best games ever.. SMG)

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#81 Popadophalis
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[QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]Blizzard, Bioware and valve kick the Crap out of nintendouser_nat

bioware last game just got 8.5 and what did nintendos last wii game get.

6.0

6.0

Donno if you count either of them as Nintendo games though.

Obviously he was referring to SMG which was given a 9.5

At any rate MaSatOG was a fully SEGA developed game and Fire Emblem... well that got well and truly gamespotted

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It was rated no higher and Crysis or Halo 3. Those are other games in contention. SMG can't win at that rate. EwokAssassin
It is the highest rated game of all time on gamerankings, and it has the most homogenous level of acceptance among critics and gamers alike. Crysis has a shot at GOTY (though it isn't anywhere near as widely accepted)but Halo 3 doesn't really stand up to the best FPSs of the year, let alone having a shot at becoming GOTY.
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#83 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="user_nat"][QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]Blizzard, Bioware and valve kick the Crap out of nintendouser_nat

bioware last game just got 8.5 and what did nintendos last wii game get.

6.0

6.0

Donno if you count either of them as Nintendo games though.

one is a sega game. and the other came out before SMG (not only that it is one of the worst reviews ever. two words "mii suport")

I thought it was both Nintendo and Sega, anyhoo.. wasn't aware Fire Emblem came out before SMG.

Point is, Nintendo do make a lot of fairly average games. (and some of the best games ever.. SMG)

They do some average games (and the occational bad game), but IMO when you take out the average/bad stuff there are more quality games than any other dev. But I'm still shunning Mario and Sonic because it was developed by sega.

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I put Blizzard above Nintendo.

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#85 NEILMEHTA
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[QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]Blizzard, Bioware and valve kick the Crap out of nintendouser_nat

bioware last game just got 8.5 and what did nintendos last wii game get.

6.0

6.0

Donno if you count either of them as Nintendo games though.

Radient dawn is a great game for hardcore FE fans. And Mario and Sonic is made by Sega.