Is Nintendo Wii U a cult classic?

It had one, maybe two actual great games to show for its existence. That's a pretty bad console that was on the market since November of 2012.

@nintendoboy16 Brawl had tripping. That alone makes it terrible compared to Smash 4.

The SSE sucked too.

It will definitely be a cult classic. If you have a Wii U and post in the Miiverse daily, you would see how many people are on there discussing the current games they are playing. People on there including myself really love the Wii U. I have a ps4 that has been collecting dust for 8 months. Not that I didlike the ps4, I'm sure it's a great console but, I have no interest in their games. I can get the majority of their games on pc and their exclusives aren't that interesting.

You never felt compelled to play Bayonetta 2? The game scored a 10 here you know. What about Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Wii U has the best version of the game. Then there's stuff like Splatoon, a game that gave a fresh take on a tired shooting genre. SSB is a fantastic game that is loaded with options and tight gameplay. Mario Kart 8 that has amazing online and fun, crazy tracks. Xenoblade Chronicles X, a very deep and engaging RPG with mechs and a huge world to explore and an awesome combat system.

That's just to name a few...

Kind of hard to say now considering the Wii U hasn't been completely stopped by Nintendo.

That aside, I thought the Wii U was a great console with a good library of games (between retail and eShop). Would certainly be okay if it got the cult classic treatment in the future.

That's actually quite nice to hear. I'm glad some gamers are having a blast with it.

Negative.

Definition of cult classic: something that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society.

It's definitely a classic for Nintendo fans and Wii U owners, but not a cult classic to the greater gaming community.

What I have already ,what I'm gonna get and what I might get. Pretty weak list, can't compare to Gamecube or Dreamcast really. Still I don't regret buying it. Xbone has less exclusives I want.

well its hard to say now since its not quite dead yet.

but i dont think itll be a particularly well rembered system. overall nintendo weren't at their best games wise. they got mario kart 8 spot on and xenoblade was wonderful. but thats as close to an ocarina or a prime as it gets.

the system itself, though an interesting idea (like the DS), never really delivered. nitnendo had very few ideas on how to make good use of that second screen.

i think the history books will be kinder to the wii in the end. the wiiu may become a bit more of a collectors item since there is only 12-13 million of them in the wild but the wii, overall, was a far better effort.

Yes...i mean when everything is said and done, the WiiU is going to be a good console to have around since it has a lot of great games that sadly never got a chance in todays market.

@Bigboi500: very few people think it's best exclusives. If I wanted to play 2d platformers I have a Super Nintendo....

Whatever you consider the Sega Saturn is what the WiiU is.

lol, it's not even close. The Saturn is one of the most expensive consoles to collect for, because it is an absolute beast of 2D gaming, consisting of mainly arcade ports, beat' em ups, fighters, and shmups, to go along with its respectable rpg library. Also, Nintendo has and never will make a game as good as NiGHTS into Dreams or Panzer Dragoon Saga.

First off you're wrong.

Second The WiiU is certainly what the Sega Saturn was in this current day and age.

I'd urge you to actually look at what the WiiU has and then compare. Does it need to have Awesome Arcade Ports to be a literal Sega Saturn? Or should it just have the general interest that the Saturn garnered over it's life span?

The Saturn is one of the most expensive Consoles to collect for because I'm certain no one bought their games. Heck I didn't even know there was a Street Fighter 2 for the system and it's one of the rarest games on there. Megaman Games are also insanely rare for the Saturn and that's because I thought Megaman went from Nintendo to Playstation during that time. The Used Game Market for the Saturn is just insane to collect only because the games are just so hard to find due to people not willing to give up their copies of the games or not enough copies were made due to the low sales.

It's like WiiU copies of Bayonetta 1, Devil's Third, or Fatal Frame and possibly Star Fox Guard. Only so many copies were made for those titles and when they're gone, they're gone.

The WiiU also has something the Xbox One and PS4 don't have and that's Full Backwards Compatibility with the Wii which SHOULD add to it's value.

In short when comparing to the competition I'm making the argument that the WiiU is simply the Sega Saturn of the Generation. Not that it's a literal Sega Saturn, but a System that is at least comparable to it.

The Wii U hasn't had the best life, but it certainly has a lot more games (most from Nintendo themselves) than I would have guessed with its rocky existence. That being said, it easily outclasses the Gamecube and N64 in terms of library.

So worst Ninty has put out? Nah. Cult classic? Too early to say, but doubt it. It'll just be another page in the history books.

No, I'm correct, because the Saturn's library is far more robust than the Wii U's. I'd instead urge you to look that up, because it is a fact.

The only similarity both consoles have is that they're commercial flops, but that is a comparison that can be made with systems other than just the Saturn. People already know what the Wii U's library consists of due to it: #1 being a Nintendo console and #2 the internet being a thing. The Saturn had none of that going for it, and so it was just until 10 years ago that enthusiasts have begun to explore its stellar library. The Wii U has no specialty about it, and add in the rarity element of the Saturn like you've mentioned, and it's clear that the Wii U will never be worth as much. Even so called rare games like Bayonetta 2 will never be much of a collectable when the standard edition can still be easily be bought for $20, and the same goes for many other games due to Nintendo Selects. True rarity is something like Panzer Dragoon Saga which only had 30,000 copies printed. Another thing, if titles such as Devil's Third have to be mentioned as ranking among the most expensive of Wii U titles, I think that more than enough speaks for the quality of the Wii U's library.

BC is a meaningless a feature, because as I mentioned before, collector's aren't restricted by budget.

The Saturn was also not as restricted by its hardware when it came to multiplats. Far more often than not, it received the superior port when it came to 2D gaming, including having more content, which has added to its value. Games like Grandia, Resident Evil, Wipe Out, and so on, made it on to the Saturn as well, so it was a developer and publisher choice not to put games on it, versus the Wii U, which flat out can't run the same games as its contemporaries.

Again, being a commercial flop is the only similarity the Wii U has with the Saturn, but if that's what you want to hang your hat on, go for it. I'm not saying the Wii U won't be worth something someday, it will, but that's only because it's a Nintendo system. The Saturn goes for as much as it does for different reasons.

Wii U is still my favorite current gen system. It'll take Wii U dying this year for PS4 to take it's place in 2017 by having more games from its respective library on my gaming shelves.

and this part right here is mostly why I consider WiiU to be more like the Saturn. Of course the situation is different considering The WiiU has sold WAY more than the Saturn ever did. Not to mention it has games that people want like Splatoon and Mario Maker. The Saturn had NOTHING like that. It was a enthusiast console like you said. Those who owned one and play it's games knew what they had was something special. But It was a commercial flop and not everyone played everything the Saturn had to offer. Just like the WiiU not everyone is gonna experience a game like Fatal Frame 5 or Captain Toad.

The 3rd party situation is unfortunate. But the WiiU DID get some 3rd Party titles. The Saturn didn't get every 3rd party situation either. It got Resident Evil, but did it get Resident Evil 2? nope.

Point is the WiiU IS more comparable to the Saturn than not.

Here's an excerpt from the Sega Saturn Wiki

Although the system is remembered for several well-regarded games, including Nights into Dreams..., the Panzer Dragoon series, and the Virtua Fighter series, the Saturn's reception is mixed due to its complex hardware design and limited third-party support. Sega's management has been criticized for its decision-making during the system's development and cancellation.

How can the WiiU NOT be comparable with that looming around the Sega Saturn?

I guess I shouldn't say you're COMPLETELY wrong, but I think you're wrong in thinking there is no way the WiiU can't be compared to the Saturn in anyway.

It will be later I think.

You sure bro?

http://www.gamesradar.com/best-gamecube-games/

http://www.listal.com/list/gamecube-games-boy6824

Gamecube was the last Nintendo consoles to receive a majority of the major third party support in it's specific generation.

3 Zelda Games

F-Zero GX

2 Metroid Prime games

2 Star Fox Games

2 3D Pokemon Games

Pikmin 1/2

Fire Emblem POR

Metal Gear Solid - Twin Snakes

Baten Kaitos 1/2

Skies of Arcadia Legends

Killer 7

Viewtiful Joe 1/2

Eternal Darkness

Resident Evil Remaster

Resident Evil 4

Batallion Wars

Chibi Robo

Luigi's Mansion

etc.

Gamecube shits all over the Wii U.

A formidable list, but you'd have to cut out a few of those that are playable on Wii U in some form (through Wii BC in the case of Metroid Prime /2, Pikmin 1/2) and 2 of the Zelda games (remastered for Wii U).

What's left is still strong, but whether it's strong enough to say it "shat all over Wii U" is now up for debate. A debate I don't care to engage in with you, since you're not exactly one worth debating with.

As such, I maintain that what the Wii U has to offer still outclasses Gamecube.

Wii U? What is that?

The difference is that NO ONE knew what was on the Saturn versus the Wii U, which the bulk of its library is known. You can mention a game like Fatal Frame, but I can mention Guardian Heroes, Shining Force III, Dragon Force, Radiant Silvergun, Galactic Attack, Marvel vs. Street Fighter, Sakura Wars, and go on forever. Hell, you said so yourself that you didn't know that games from major franchises such as Mega Man and Street Fighter were on it, and as an owner of the Saturn since its launch, I can say that I didn't even know what was on it, because that's how hard how under the radar the Saturn was. I'll say it again, the Saturn did not have the benefit of the internet like it is today. A game like Captain Toad has received a monumental amount of exposure compared to anything that was on the Saturn based on that alone, and it has the sales to back it up. The Wii U might have a hidden gem here and there, but the games that people should know about by in large have received the coverage and sales that they deserve. So no, the situation is not even remotely comparable.

The other difference is that the Saturn COULD run the third party games of its contemporaries, and in some cases, had the superior version. It was a difficult system to program for, but it wasn't weak like the Wii U. Again, I'll mention Panzer Dragoon Saga, because it was so revolutionary and ahead of its time, and putting it head on against another rpg like FFVII, really puts it to shame on a technical level. Third parties bailed, but it wasn't due to a lack of powerful hardware.

Again, the only similarity the two systems share is that they flopped, but there isn't anything unique about that when so many other systems have as well.

This is 100% on the money.

@nintendoboy16: Yes, I have seen the Virtual Boy on countless YouTube features. You're confusing unsuccessfulness with disinterest.

Some of the best games are on it and it does something useful the best (the streaming). So yes, logically it will be regarded as something people should have experienced but missed. Also, to people saying it 'only' had like 5 must haves I bought a PS4 for 2 and in all this time there are still no more than 2. And 1 of them isn't even out yet. If you're going to slam the Wii U for a lack of classics then I wonder how people will look back at the PS4/XB1. The pointless systems?

No.I can call XBOX360/PS3 cult classics..........but not the WiiU.The Wii and the WiiU are the worst consoles ever......they sucks.

For me it is. You can't play Smash Wii U, Mario Kart 8, Tropical Freeze, Bayonetta 2, New Super Mario U, Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World anywhere else. I was expecting a little more like a true 3D Mario and Zelda game, but at least I got some good games. I'd buy a Wii U again just for these games. I'd actually buy one just for Smash.

@Renegade_Fury: I'd like to argue more about that The WiiU totally could have (some) games that are on Current Systems.

Certain games like Farcry 3, Farcry 4, Saints Row 4 + Gat outta Hell, GTAV, Call of Duty Advance Warfare, The Evil Within, Tomb Raider, Dark Souls 2, Crisis 3, Metal Gear Solid V (Phantom Pain and Ground Zeroes, Dead or Alive 5, Ultra Street Fighter IV, etc could have easily gone to the WiiU, but it didn't not because the hardware wasn't up to snuff, but because General Interest in 3rd Parties and Consumers just wasn't there. The only proof I have that those games could work on WiiU are the few 3rd party titles the WiiU actually has like Deus Ex Human Revolution and Assassin's Creed IV. Those are games that are on WiiU so why didn't the WiiU get those 3rd Party games that the 360 and PS3 share with the Xbox One and PS4?

So what if the WiiU has the power of the internet to back it up? What if the Sega Saturn had that same power? Information in today's age is just more available to us than it was back then. I don't think that should be a factor when comparing the two consoles. Your argument about it having more Variety is more on the money than "The WiiU has the Power of the Internet to sell it's console!"

The argument wasn't supposed to be whether or not the system is gonna be rare or valuable. It was supposed to be how it generated interest in the community.

Most Gamers today would like to talk more about what's coming to the Xbox One or PS4 and not what's on WiiU. You can say "Oh but there's plenty of people that talk about Splatoon or Mario Maker!" but what's that compared to Dark Souls 3? Say anything about Star Fox Zero and you're sure to have someone be all like "wtf is a Star Fox?" It's probably the same reaction you would have gotten back in the day with Panzer Dragoon.

It has potential. It has a great lineup of first party games. Way more than the PS4 or the Xbone have at this point if you ask me. Sadly it will probably also be remembered as one of the biggest screw ups in the gaming industry. Nintendo really screwed the pooch with it's launch, and it's support. Not getting the word out that it was a brand new system, and not just a Wii add on didn't help them. Anyway I expect it to be fondly remembered down the road.

No, that's reserved for the GameCube.

+1

WiiU is hot rotten garbage.

@NathanDrakeSwag: 3rd party is hot garbage and that dumb mandatory gamepad killed it. It should be $149.00 by now and selling like hotcakes.

@shellcase86: By definition, Nintendo fans are a segment group in society. Wii U appeals particularly to them, thus a cult classic by your admission.

NO.

The Dreamcast is the only Cult console because it had amazing games but died too early. It was well loved by everyone.

The wii u is complete garbage, trash games no one likes except die hard nintendo fanboys and it died too late. It was HATED by everyone except nintendo fanboys.

That is a huge difference. Sorry nintendo fanboys, but you have the minority opinion. Even 10 years from now, you can't convince that garbage console was any good to Sony or MS fans.

At least the vast majority of gamers aka everyone agrees Dreamcast is a cult classic.

Cult classics crop up years after release. They generate a small following in their "time" that eventually grows into a super-dedicated following many years after that time. And they usually aren't considered "good" by most critics.

So in 2020 when people are paying an arm and a leg for Wii U consoles and games, then it might be safe to say, yes it is.

No, it will fade into oblivion where it belongs.

yes I think so.

I think it has the potential to.

I can count way more good exclusives for the Wii U then I can the other current consoles. 3rd party tanked tho.

It is a nice system, faster then the other systems by far, when it comes to navigation, and it is just well built overall.

So It could well become it.

You can't be a classic if you're still the current generation.

Furthemore no. There is nothing about the WiiU that is going to be remember and enjoyed years to come.

Sounds like someone never owned the system. So how would you know one way or the other?

nope. Nintendo let that system flounder around for air and soon its going to die when the nx comes out. Hopefully they treat it better then the wiiu.

You don't need to own the system to see the lineup of games is completely unimpressive. There is a reason the sales are so low.

I don't see DEHR as being any kind of real indicator of what the Wii U truly can do. AC4 Black Flag on Wii U is pretty impressive, and what I've seen on Youtube indicates no CPU based compromises were made, in particular the semi-interactive/reactive water during ship combat and travel. It's unlikely to be GPGPU based considering the performance impact it could have (though the Wii U GPU has enough GFLOPS to do while leaving enough for rendering).

I can't see the three PowerPC 750 cores being able to handle it either with their extremely limited SIMD, unless they are fabled 750VX cores or were given some kind of other bolt-on VMX/Altivec capability. 750CL like on the Wii (which was called Broadway) inherited the Gekko's (Gamecube CPU) limited 2x 32 bit/ 4x 16 bit "SIMD" capabilities, and by extension, the Wii U CPU should have the same problems, even with 3 cores and at a higher 1.25 GHz clock speed. Each core is only capable of 5.0 GFLOPS under the 4 x 16 bit model.

I always saw the lack of CPU GFLOPS as an issue for why the Wii U has seen so few mainstream games ported to it. Then again, even the PS2 did get a few instances of very high quality interactive water simulation on it's 6.0 total GFLOPS, and that was likely with dedicating one vector unit to general game rendering, leaving the 2.4 GFLOPS + 1.2 GFLOPS of the other vector unit and the FPU respectively.

Oh! So games like Call of Duty are all that matter? So games like Bayonetta 2, which scored a 10 here is "unimpressive" ? I wasn't aware we had trolling mods here until just now.

One game doesn't define a system. You're also making assumptions about what games I find great. Furthermore, you don't win an argument by accusing somebody of trolling.

The Wii U has a very unimpressive lineup, poor sales, and very little buzz. It's got no makings of being a cult classic as there is no thriving community of Wii U enthusiasts that will keep that platform going once Nintendo abandons it.

So many gems on this thing. It's easily the new dreamcast. Love my Wii U way more than my PS4.

It's beyond an accusation, it's the concrete truth. You don't own the system, and it's as clear as day you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Nintendo. Wii U has more quality exclusives than any other current gen console, and it doesn't matter what you personally like or dislike, but having some knowledge of the subject matter is required here. Despite lower sales compared to other systems, Wii U has a large community of gamers. Of course, you wouldn't know about any of that stuff, like miiverse for instance, because you are simply talking out of your own ass.

I thought Gamespot was supposed to have unbiased mods who had at least a small amount of knowledge about all the systems and games, but I guess they don't mind having blind fanboy moderators who like to troll the community they also police.

When it's super cheap I'm buying one. Nintendo's top tier games are usually worth playing. Except for twilight princess, ugh... if Nintendo could kindly never force a player into grinding out kills in a small confined area that would be sweet.

The Wii U is a medicore platform that has a very small community that is not going to survive long after the NX is released. There is a reason why Nintendo is abandoning it.

The Wii U just doesn't fit the definition of a cult classic. It's fanbase isn't dedicated enough to the platform to be considered "cult" like. Sales for the most popular Wii U games have been sluggish at best. There isn't a rabid fanbase keeping the Wii U alive. Once Nintendo abandons it, it'll be dead. There won't be some upsurge in demand for the Wii U among the cult of Nintendo fanboys.

This doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. It just doesn't have the makings of some sort of a classic system that'll be remembered for years by a dedicated group of "cult"-like fanboys. Therefore it's not a "cult classic".

I myself am actually thinking of picking one up to enjoy a few of the games that I missed out on, but I've been unable to convince myself to pay the $299 for the console. I'm not a big Mario or Smash Bros. fan so there is not much I'm missing out on. Bayonetta, The Wonderful 101, and Pikmin 3 are my main wants. That's really not enough to warrant spending that kind of money.

This is why I don't think it's got the makings of a cult classic. I'm a very avid gamer and I'm having trouble justifying the Wii U.