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#51 Hot_Potato
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2 Years later and they finally make something better then the 360 GPU...

Must suck for PS3 owners. They have an outdated GPU.

Truth_Hurts_U

Hahahaha, either I misunderstood or you've been living under a rock for the past year, LOL!

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#52 Hot_Potato
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[QUOTE="alfy13"]i find it funny when lemmings bash cows for there gpu being out dated. but when someone shows them a 150.00 gpu that pwns the gpu that is found in the 360, the lemmings all of sudden want to throw the 360 gpu is outdated , of course 8600 will out run it. here in SW we have a word for that its called HYPOCRITESxscrapzx

You are guys are acting like this card is the next best thing sense slice bread, there are a few and I mean few adjustments to the shadows in lost planet. Other than that they are the same and secondly the footprints look better on the 360 than the pc. If you think while I'm playing lost planet that I'm sitting there looking at the shawdows to make sure they are not jaggy your nuts.

Now that's just damage control son. If you look you can see the 360 footprints are black blobs, while the pc version actually looks like a foot shape.

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#53 Hot_Potato
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[QUOTE="tool_rage"]i lost a bit of respect for Nvidia after seeing those GeForce 8 vs. Console pics.Einhanderkiller

Why? All those screens are showing is the graphical difference between Lost Planet on the 360 and Lost Planet on a mid-range PC videocard.

Sorry bud, but that's a low end card. Anything below $200 is considered low end. $200-300 is mid/high, and $300+ is high end.

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#54 Deihmos
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I am surprised that a single video card that cost more than the Xbox 360 console itself is more powerful. This is really surprising.
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#55 rexoverbey
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Wasn'tLost Planet the game posted the first DX10 game? Ofcoure it would look better than the 360 version. Plus I didn't know I could just go buy a 360 GPU. I thought I got a 3 core CPU, GDDR3 Main ram, Media Center Extender, wireless controller, case, PS, HDD, mobo, component cable, ethernet, etc.... all included for the Price of the 360. When you can get Vista, Case, PS, CPU, DX 10 GPU (like the one you posted), RAM, DVD-Rom, Controller, Mobo, HDD, etc all for $399 you can come back.
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#56 Neal_Gore
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hmm...maybe I should build myself a PC but if you put all the componets together it's still expensive , prolly more than a PS3. The only thing i want from a PC is crysis.turgore

It'll cost you at least 1500$ for a PC that will be able to run Crysis and that is with on board sound and not using Vista which is a RAM hog.

How well will Crysis run is up in the air, whenever a new game engine is released people playing the game can only hope their hardware holds up.

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#57 Neal_Gore
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They released a budget notebook video card which is better then the X360's GPU. In essence, the videocard is comparable to the X1800 in performance, and as I noted many times before, is roughly same or better then the X360's gpu. The X360 was outdated in performance long before its release. (X1900 series, 7900 series)WhySoCry

How is the 360 outdated when it has better games than any other platform - oh wait the Crysis is coming!!!! One game is better than all the great games coming out for the 360 this year - eugene please!

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#58 Gangans
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[QUOTE="Gangans"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]what's the point of this? you can't claim ownage from a natural progression of technology. the 360's GPU is over a year old, of course it wasgoing to be surpassed.thirstychainsaw

Yes we can, the xbxo360 still costs 3x as much as this video card.

Your argument fails when you consider the 360 isn't just a graphics card :|

YOUR argument fails when you consider the pc isn't just a console dedicated to playing games, oh by the way, good luck playing your xbox360 without a tv, a nice flat screen HD tv..

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#59 Neal_Gore
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people are forgetting that 8600 GPUs are fully DX10 compatible, and decode video better than 8800s. Xenos has 48 unified shaders vs 32 8600, we all know how crappy ATI's unified shaders are, 320 of ATIs shaders can't catch up to 128 Nvidia's. The 8600 also has more mem bandwidth 32gb/s vs 22gb/s. 8600GT is a great card, but it can't even beat the 7900GT and up, that is pretty disappointing. since 8600>Xenos, and 7900>8600, that means 7900>Xenos. Same can be said about RSX. And here lemms tried claiming that xenos > 7900.muscleserge

I'm looking at your PC specs and that 400mhz FSB is kind of crappy don't ya think?

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#60 machitocaliente
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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"][QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"]

Not the pics, a link to where most 360 fans here claim the 8600GTXXX is "garbage" and the 360 "is superior"

Medjai

just posting a few...

"The 8600GT is garbage" ( and then procceds 2 post incorrect benchmarks from the vanilla version)

"the 8600GT is terrible" ( and then procceds 2 talk about gears of war)

" the 8600gt is a gimped card" (and then procceds 2 talk nonsenses)

"Shame on you, this is just a bad lie" ( and then procceds 2 dange control)

"the 8600 is garbage....it could never run Gears of War at repectable settings "

do a search

After doing multiple searches, I found none of these claims :roll:

Thanks for wasting my time on a lie.

no kidding asked for links he gives quotes that he obv wrote himself :roll:

here noobies. now take it like a man

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25688633

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#61 munu9
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Inevitable. Unless you want to spend $500+, any PC GPU will aslo be overtaken by a graphics that cost as much or less in 2 years...
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#62 BillGates_Money
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um ok...*goes on live*
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#63 machitocaliente
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[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

[QUOTE="turgore"]hmm...maybe I should build myself a PC but if you put all the componets together it's still expensive , prolly more than a PS3. The only thing i want from a PC is crysis.mismajor99

you definitely should. is whaay cheaper than a ps3 or 360 + DH TV + gamez. ( hint im playing a lot of free gamez)

I actually liked you until I read the end of that sentence. Shame on you.

why? if they where available in my country, i would buy them, the thing is, they are not. what im supposed 2 do? the dev /publisher obviously dsnt care. their fault not mine. ( hint: direct download + good game = paypal payment)

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#64 machitocaliente
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I guess the ATI 2600 HD will beat the 8600gtxx. :|

PS3_3DO

No. Its a shame but pparently AMD / ATI = not synonymouss of good performance anymore

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#65 Dire_Weasel
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Wait, what? I'm confused. The screens you posted show better shadows in the 360 version compared to the PC.SergeantSnitch

Agreed, you're extremely confused.

Maybe a good video card just isn't for you.

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#66 Dire_Weasel
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I am surprised that a single video card that cost more than the Xbox 360 console itself is more powerful. This is really surprising.Deihmos

You fail completely at sarcasm. $300 (or $400, lets be realistic) is greater than $150 last I checked.

Oh, wait... you're using Xbox fanboy math. My bad.

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#67 imprezawrx500
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I guess the ATI 2600 HD will beat the 8600gtxx. :|

PS3_3DO

well look what happend with the 2900xt vs 8800gtx. ati was left in nvidia's dust

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#68 Tasman_basic
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It's ok guys Nvidia said so therefore it MUST be true. They would never promote their product over an ATi one and they would NEVER do something underhanded.
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#69 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Gangans"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]what's the point of this? you can't claim ownage from a natural progression of technology. the 360's GPU is over a year old, of course it wasgoing to be surpassed.thirstychainsaw

Yes we can, the xbxo360 still costs 3x as much as this video card.

Your argument fails when you consider the 360 isn't just a graphics card :|

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#70 imprezawrx500
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Inevitable. Unless you want to spend $500+, any PC GPU will aslo be overtaken by a graphics that cost as much or less in 2 years... munu9

and who cares? if the game runs, thats all that matters

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#71 wklzip
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Wait, what? I'm confused. The screens you posted show better shadows in the 360 version compared to the PC.SergeantSnitch

nope, the PC version has better shadows (soft shadows)

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#72 mindz2004
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what's the point of this? you can't claim ownage from a natural progression of technology. the 360's GPU is over a year old, of course it wasgoing to be surpassed.Mordred19

^^ nail on the head ^^

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#73 quocthai
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so they show off a game that was on xbox for a year and compare it with the newer version with updated graphics and dx 10 support. What a joke, if they want to do real comparison why they should show compare screen shot of a game that com out on both system at the same time