Is Portal considered an fps (poll included, you must vote)

Why the double standard for games that take place from first person perspective? The 'you shoot things from first person' arguement is flawed. The main focus of the game isn't shooting things. And doesn't a shooter require you to fire actual weapons? Because by the logic of the aforementioned arguement I could call FIFA 11 a third person shooter because you shoot things from a third person perspective.

Even if a game does have first person shooter elements, that still doesn't make it a first person shooter. Yet I hear way more people label Mirror's Edge as a first person shooter (which it clearly isn't) than I hear GTA being labeled as a third person shooter, while the latter is closer to being a TPS than Mirror's Edge is to being an FPS. Let alone Portal.

Portal is a puzzle game, end of story.

[QUOTE="Guppy507"]Of course not. Only crazy people call it a FPS.glez13

Yeah everyone knows its a First Person Portal Shooter (FPPS). >.>

It's first person, but it's a puzzle, not a shooter.

Well, you shoot portals and it's first person, so wouldn't it technically be an fps?DragonfireXZ95

That's my guess.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.

Why the double standard for games that take place from first person perspective? The 'you shoot things from first person' arguement is flawed. The main focus of the game isn't shooting things. And doesn't a shooter require you to fire actual weapons? Because by the logic of the aforementioned arguement I could call FIFA 11 a third person shooter because you shoot things from a third person perspective.

Even if a game does have first person shooter elements, that still doesn't make it a first person shooter. Yet I hear way more people label Mirror's Edge as a first person shooter (which it clearly isn't) than I hear GTA being labeled as a third person shooter, while the latter is closer to being a TPS than Mirror's Edge is to being an FPS. Let alone Portal.

Portal is a puzzle game, end of story.

DraugenCP

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Well, you shoot portals and it's first person, so wouldn't it technically be an fps?LegatoSkyheart

That's my guess.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.LegatoSkyheart

Why the double standard for games that take place from first person perspective? The 'you shoot things from first person' arguement is flawed. The main focus of the game isn't shooting things. And doesn't a shooter require you to fire actual weapons? Because by the logic of the aforementioned arguement I could call FIFA 11 a third person shooter because you shoot things from a third person perspective.

Even if a game does have first person shooter elements, that still doesn't make it a first person shooter. Yet I hear way more people label Mirror's Edge as a first person shooter (which it clearly isn't) than I hear GTA being labeled as a third person shooter, while the latter is closer to being a TPS than Mirror's Edge is to being an FPS. Let alone Portal.

Portal is a puzzle game, end of story.

DraugenCP

True. We could call FIFA 11 a RPG because you take the role of a certain player and it has a complete stat system to define the characters, but obviously what goes first is the purpose of playing a football match. Many games share mechanics of games from other genres since the 80's if not 70's, this things aren't to be taken so literally. What matters is the main purpose of the game and if that purpose is really a defined genre it will clearly be shared with others.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Well, you shoot portals and it's first person, so wouldn't it technically be an fps?LegatoSkyheart

That's my guess.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.

But Portal focus on solving puzzles not shooting opponents, thus it a first person puzzle game.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Well, you shoot portals and it's first person, so wouldn't it technically be an fps?Wanderer5

That's my guess.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.

But Portal focus on solving puzzles not shooting opponents, thus it a first person puzzle game.

So, even though it's in First Person and there is somewhat of Shooting involved, It's not an FPS because you don't have a Gun with Bullets right?

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Well, you shoot portals and it's first person, so wouldn't it technically be an fps?LegatoSkyheart

That's my guess.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.

They all are about shooting projectiles for combat purposes. Basically a FPS must be like Wolfenstein 3D and it's clones and descendants. Yes taking it literally there where other games in first person were you shoot something before it but they can't be a FPS(in a defined context) because such a thing didn't exist until Wolfenstein 3D.

It's like the ones saying Alone in the Dark is a Survival Horror or Herzog Zwei is a RTS. Can't be because those games came before Resident Evil and Dune 2. Maybe in a retrospective and honorific way or also being totally literal you can call them that, but that's as far as it goes. I also used to make this mistake in the past but I learned better.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

That's my guess.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.

LegatoSkyheart

But Portal focus on solving puzzles not shooting opponents, thus it a first person puzzle game.

So, even though it's in First Person and there is somewhat of Shooting involved, It's not an FPS because you don't have a Gun with Bullets right?

Again it focus is solving puzzle, not shooting thus it a puzzle game and not a shooter. It only has some light shooter elements at the most.

A mixture of pew pew and puzzle solving. In a way, yes it is.

wow, a surprisingly high number of people voted yes :?

wow, a surprisingly high number of people voted yes :?

FatCatPatRat

True. Almost the half of No.

If Portal is a FPS, by that logic it must also be an RPG.

Portal is a puzzle game, that happens to be in first person view.

It's a platform/puzzle game

milannoir

This.

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[QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]

Portal 2 is played in first person, but it is not a first person shooter. Not all first person games are shooters. Amnesia: TDD is in first person, but it is a first person adventure game since you do not have any weapons.

Sure, your "shooting" portals, but you're not actually shooting the turrets with an M4 or anything like that.

San_09

You are shooting the walls with your portals. It is a FPS. Amnesia is not a FPS because there is no shooting. Portal is in first person, has a gun, and allows you to shoot it. It is also a puzzler, but that doesn't mean it isn't a FPS.

Its a puzzel game with fps elements... imo.

It technically could be, but then again inFAMOUS could technically be an RPG, it's just it obviously isn't so we don't call it one. Just to avoid complications like dividing FPS into action FPS and puzzle FPS, we keep it simple and call it a puzzle game in first person that happens to involve shooting.

It's a FirstPersonPuzzle. 8)

This is the same argument as someone trying to say all games are RPGs by using the straight definition.

Genre grouping is stupid. Grouping Portal and Call of Duty under the same genre is like saying Inception and Commando are similar because they're both technically action movies.

On Steam Portal is under the action category. Which I still find iffy to agree with. Who cares what genre it is, it's a game. The end.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

That's my guess.

FPSs don't always have to be about War and Multiplayer.

LegatoSkyheart

But Portal focus on solving puzzles not shooting opponents, thus it a first person puzzle game.

So, even though it's in First Person and there is somewhat of Shooting involved, It's not an FPS because you don't have a Gun with Bullets right?

right.

[QUOTE="FoShlzzle17"]

It's in first person, and you shoot things (portals). So yes, its an first person shooter.

IronBass

all games must be RPGs then too.

Portal is a puzzle game. When people think FPS they think Halo, COD, etc... Just because Portal is in a first person view and you have a gun doesn't make it a FPS. If you want to call Portal a FPS you might as well take all action adventure games that encorporate guns and use a third person view and label them all third person shooters (GTA IV, MGS4, RDR, Uncharted 1 and 2, Borderlands, ME1 and 2, Alan Wake, etc...)

all games must be RPGs then too.Phaze-Two

No its a puzzle game in first person perspective.

I didn't vote to be a rebel.

And I won't share my opinion, because then I could've just voted. But I have one.

Make sure you know that a vote could be on either of those choices, you just don't know which one!

FINE its a puzzle game with the first person perspective.

Well it has the first person, but not the shooter so no, no its not. Its an FPP. First person puzzle, or First Person Portal ;) haha

Is Portal considered an fps

FatCatPatRat

Not on the Xbox 360. It will be a horribly gimped piece of trash for that system.

Godly on the PS3 (it comes with the PC version as well as cross-platform play/chat, so accept it fanboys).

[QUOTE="San_09"][QUOTE="hoola"]

You are shooting the walls with your portals. It is a FPS. Amnesia is not a FPS because there is no shooting. Portal is in first person, has a gun, and allows you to shoot it. It is also a puzzler, but that doesn't mean it isn't a FPS.

DragonfireXZ95

Hah, Mirror's Edge huh?

Since this ENTIRE topic question is obvious, I dont think I didnt think I need to even mention Mirror's Edge.

Yet again, as I see it, you would probably say Mirror's Edge was a FPS as well. Since the entire game 'needs' to be in first person in order for it to be FPS.

:lol:

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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

But Portal focus on solving puzzles not shooting opponents, thus it a first person puzzle game.

Phaze-Two

So, even though it's in First Person and there is somewhat of Shooting involved, It's not an FPS because you don't have a Gun with Bullets right?

right.

No, it's not a first-person shooter because it's not a shooter. It's a puzzle game.

If "shooting" something as the main mechanic is the only criteria for being a first-person shooter, then there is no reason for anything to be called a first-person shooter because it's an incredibly vague distinction to make.

It's a first person puzzle game. What's wrong with people?

I voted yes. The game is in first person perspective, and the major mechanic is shooting. cainetao11

It's an FPS as established in one of my threads here:http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27092039.You play it in first person and you shoot portals.

QED. It's an FPS.

Shooting is the act or process of firing rifles, shotguns or other projectile weapons such as bows or crossbows. Even the firing of artillery, rockets and missiles can be called shooting. A person who specializes in shooting is a marksman. Shooting can take place in a shooting range or in the field in hunting, in shooting sports or in combat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting

Its not a shooter.

edit: woops posted in the wrong topic