Is PS3 Really Selling as well in first year as 360 Did?!

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#51 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

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Sony is in big, big trouble. Only a miracle can save them now. How cows can say that they are doing just dandy is a phenomenon psychologist should study and write theories about...

Swift_Boss_A

Umm What?

They are outselling X360 in JPN and EU. And WII in JPN

Only place left is NA and that a territoty where PS3 has NO heavy hitters. aand considering its the most expensive I'd say this is all expected.

Highest Price tag and None of that titles that made PS1 and PS2 what they were

Dude there's no point explaining anything to Pimpshigity21, his the biggest fanboy on sysetm wars walking around with "I hate PS3" tatooed on his head :lol:

Explaining? LOL. All I see are cows pounding their chests while using vgchartz numbers or Sony press releases. You gotta be kidding.

Explain this: Why did Sony lower prices and release new SKUs less than a year after launching the PS3?

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#52 johnnieblue
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Actually, yes they are outselling the 360 in Europe right nowsam280992

I always see this on System Wars but never actually see any proof. Where's the link to the sales figures in Europe?

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#53 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

$600 price tag is what held the PS3 back from potential sales. The $400 PS3 will get alot of people to buy it that wanted it but didn't want to spend $600 on it. It hasalready started really.

PS3 is selling fine. It especially sold pretty well for the 1st year considering the $600 price tag.

Blinblingthing

ummm.....NO, two big price drops in one year says it wasn't selling well!:P

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Sony is in big, big trouble. Only a miracle can save them now. How cows can say that they are doing just dandy is a phenomenon psychologist should study and write theories about...

Umm What?

They are outselling X360 in JPN and EU. And WII in JPN

Only place left is NA and that a territoty where PS3 has NO heavy hitters. aand considering its the most expensive I'd say this is all expected.

Highest Price tag and None of that titles that made PS1 and PS2 what they were

Since you like requesting links, how about you provide one of your own?

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#54 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="sam280992"]Actually, yes they are outselling the 360 in Europe right nowjohnnieblue

I always see this on System Wars but never actually see any proof. Where's the link to the sales figures in Europe?

I've been asking that forever too.

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#55 cod4ownzzz
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Its selling fairly well, but there was a huge jump in X360 sales around the release of Gears last year that I doubt the PS3 will match even with the price cut. If I recall the X360 moved 2 million units in Nov/Dec last year. Even if you take Sony at their word for the sales increase on Black Friday week they are still only on par to sell like 500 k for the whole month of Nov, and will probably have similar results in Dec.KodiakGTS

Surprisingly, PS3 is on track to match what 360 did last year over the same period. At this point in their lifetime, 360 was at 6,694,092. Ps3 is currently at 6,355,733. Based on what ps3 sold this past week, it will easily be at 8million (minimum) by the end of the year.

There are two problems though. (i) 360 had a much better install base in America than ps3 does and this affects software sales. The difference is made up in japan, but attach rate their is much worse than in america.

(ii) 360 is selling much better at the moment here and now (although ps3 has matched it the last two weeks, but it was being destroyed prior to that)

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#56 cod4ownzzz
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[QUOTE="johnnieblue"]

[QUOTE="sam280992"]Actually, yes they are outselling the 360 in Europe right nowLosDaddie

I always see this on System Wars but never actually see any proof. Where's the link to the sales figures in Europe?

I've been asking that forever too.

Most are using VGChartz at the moment as we have nothing else.

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#57 Pimpshigity21
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Yeah, lol he won't listen, he just stays all day on gamespot forums while his Xbox 360 is being repaired

sam280992

Nah man...I listen to cow's preposterous theories all the time. Every so often they make for a good laugh.

Since before the release of the 360 cows have been making prediction...and so far not one of them has come true...and yet some of you guys think you are in some quest for truth and justice.

Cow despearation is always entertaining. Keep it up.

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For all the people that want links here ya go.

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#59 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

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Sony is in big, big trouble. Only a miracle can save them now. How cows can say that they are doing just dandy is a phenomenon psychologist should study and write theories about...

Pimpshigity21

Umm What?

They are outselling X360 in JPN and EU. And WII in JPN

Only place left is NA and that a territoty where PS3 has NO heavy hitters. aand considering its the most expensive I'd say this is all expected.

Highest Price tag and None of that titles that made PS1 and PS2 what they were

Dude there's no point explaining anything to Pimpshigity21, his the biggest fanboy on sysetm wars walking around with "I hate PS3" tatooed on his head :lol:

Explaining? LOL. All I see are cows pounding their chests while using vgchartz numbers or Sony press releases. You gotta be kidding.

Explain this: Why did Sony lower prices and release new SKUs less than a year after launching the PS3?

lol 360 fanboys are hilarious. Sony launches PS3 with a $600 price tag and the lemmings make fun by saying its over priced then Sony decreases the price and now the 360 fans are saying Sony is desperate ? talk about hipocrites.

new SKU's, lets see Sony has a 40gb PS3 and a 80gb while Microsoft has, elete, premium, halo edition and arcade edition. Microsoft are the one who make new SKU's every friken month :lol: get your facts straight

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !

Believe me next year PS3 will kick 360's a** all over the place,

now *taps head* run along little lemming.

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#60 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]No No No, you got it all wrong. The PS3 is selling as well as the 360 this year, not as well as the 360 sold last year.Art_424

No, the first year sales are the same, it all comes down to how the PS3 does in its Q4 cause the 360 reached about 8 million by January.

Last September the 360 was at 6 million, the PS3 just hit 6 last week.

That isnt too bad, being off by about7 weeks. They are almost similar, so it still comes down to the PS3s holiday sales.

Ignoring almost 2 months of sales, lol....serious denial!

The fact that the PS3 is barely off the 360 sales when the PS3 is going against the Wii, and a system seller (Halo 3) while the 360 was up against....nothing. I would say the PS3 is doing pretty good.

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360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !Swift_Boss_A

Another cow commenting on EU sales without posting proof?

:shock:

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#62 mastamo
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Ok i keep hearing two different things, on one side I keep hearing that 360 hit 10 million units sold worldwide within the first 8 months it was released, I am also hearing it took MS a full year and a half to hit the 10 million mark.. So if sony can hit 7.5-8 million consoles worldwide by the end of this year, wont that make the PS3 just as much as a success as 360?! Or are my numbers wrong?!ChristopherM80

Yea, you're right.

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#63 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !LosDaddie

Another cow commenting on EU sales without posting proof?

:shock:

http://vgchartz.com/eweekly.php?date=39411

X360: 4,358,961 total sold in Europe since launch

PS3: 2,300,706 total sold in Europe since release which was 8 months ago, March 2007

if you don't go by vgcharts then get it from another site, the results will be the same though. face it 360 is doing lacklustre in Europe

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#64 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !LosDaddie

Another cow commenting on EU sales without posting proof?

:shock:

http://vgchartz.com/eweekly.php?date=39411

X360: 4,358,961 total sold in Europe since launch which wsa two years ago

PS3: 2,300,706 total sold in Europe since release which was 8 months ago, March 2007

if you don't go by vgcharts then get it from another site, the results will be the same though. face it 360 is doing lacklustre in Europe

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#65 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !LosDaddie

Another cow commenting on EU sales without posting proof?

:shock:

You have the internet, go look it up.

Anyhow the Wii is dominating PS3, selling more consoles in one week than sony is selling in a month.

Sony reported that the sales of PS3 has increased by 245% in North America during the US Thanksgiving week, the estimated sales is between 321,000 so far for the month of November.

Nintendo announced they have sold more than 350,000 units of Wii during the Thanksgiving week, and warning customers that Wii would be scarce through the end of the year. Nintendo expects to sell 17.5 million Wii Consoles in the fiscal year of 2007.

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#66 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !Swift_Boss_A

Another cow commenting on EU sales without posting proof?

:shock:

http://vgchartz.com/eweekly.php?date=39411

X360: 4,358,961 total sold in Europe since launch

PS3: 2,300,706 total sold in Europe since release which was 8 months ago, March 2007

if you don't go by vgcharts then get it from another site, the results will be the same though. face it 360 is doing lacklustre in Europe

VGC is often wrong though. And VGC changes their numbers whenever NPD comes out.

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#67 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !Adrian_Cloud

Another cow commenting on EU sales without posting proof?

:shock:

You have the internet, go look it up.

But I'm not making the claim.

Why should I have to look it up?

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$600 price tag is what held the PS3 back from potential sales. The $400 PS3 will get alot of people to buy it that wanted it but didn't want to spend $600 on it. It hasalready started really.

PS3 is selling fine. It especially sold pretty well for the 1st year considering the $600 price tag.

Puckhog04

yeah $600 has been sony's biggest and...well...only BIG mistake this gen

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#69 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !LosDaddie

Another cow commenting on EU sales without posting proof?

:shock:

You have the internet, go look it up.

But I'm not making the claim.

Why should I have to look it up?

Because this has been said several times, with different sources VGC,etc. All 360 fans do is discredit them, i know there only estimates but there fairly accurate and do actual follow the NDP. So if your dis-agreeing is there an actual reason why?
Its only been out 8 months and has considerable market share in Europe.

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[QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

$600 price tag is what held the PS3 back from potential sales. The $400 PS3 will get alot of people to buy it that wanted it but didn't want to spend $600 on it. It hasalready started really.

PS3 is selling fine. It especially sold pretty well for the 1st year considering the $600 price tag.

Puckhog04

ummm.....NO, two big price drops in one year says it wasn't selling well!:P

Wait, so you're going to claim that the drop to $500 that didn't even last for a month was a permanent price drop? :roll:

It was there to clear out 60gb's to clear way for the 80gb models, nothing more. The only official price cut was the one that just happened when the 80gb went to $500 and the 40gb model was introduced at $400. And who cares...it's increasing sales. And the PS3 was still $600 for over 90% of the time of it's first year. So, yes, my statement is still correct.

It wasn't selling well due to the $600 price. But, considering its price, it wasn't that bad of sales. That's all i meant. A $600 console could've sold alot worse than 6 million in its first year.

What you said would have been a bit more valid if the PS3 actually quickly sold through those 60gig models. You could easly find a PS3 for $500 after the first drop. If you chose to buy the version with extra HDD space you got a free $60 game. Oh yeah and you could get 5 BluRay movies for free on top of that.

The simple truth is that the PS3 poor sales forced SONY to cut the price early. The 360 went for nearly 2 full years before dropping the price/ bundling games. SONY would love to be able to have said the same about the PS3.

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#71 cod4ownzzz
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

$600 price tag is what held the PS3 back from potential sales. The $400 PS3 will get alot of people to buy it that wanted it but didn't want to spend $600 on it. It hasalready started really.

PS3 is selling fine. It especially sold pretty well for the 1st year considering the $600 price tag.

flintgijoe

ummm.....NO, two big price drops in one year says it wasn't selling well!:P

Wait, so you're going to claim that the drop to $500 that didn't even last for a month was a permanent price drop? :roll:

It was there to clear out 60gb's to clear way for the 80gb models, nothing more. The only official price cut was the one that just happened when the 80gb went to $500 and the 40gb model was introduced at $400. And who cares...it's increasing sales. And the PS3 was still $600 for over 90% of the time of it's first year. So, yes, my statement is still correct.

It wasn't selling well due to the $600 price. But, considering its price, it wasn't that bad of sales. That's all i meant. A $600 console could've sold alot worse than 6 million in its first year.

What you said would have been a bit more valid if the PS3 actually quickly sold through those 60gig models. You could easly find a PS3 for $500 after the first drop. If you chose to buy the version with extra HDD space you got a free $60 game. Oh yeah and you could get 5 BluRay movies for free on top of that.

The simple truth is that the PS3 poor sales forced SONY to cut the price early. The 360 went for nearly 2 full years before dropping the price/ bundling games. SONY would love to be able to have said the same about the PS3.

Lets not pretend the 360 wouldn't have had to drop the price twice either. if 360 had launched at $599, they would have had to drop the price literally the day after it came out (not a fanboy, i have a 360)

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#72 Yodas_Boy
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The PS3 is selling fine. Wasdie

It's been out for as long as the Wii, but it's 8,000,000 system sales behind it. You call that "fine"?

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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

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Sony is in big, big trouble. Only a miracle can save them now. How cows can say that they are doing just dandy is a phenomenon psychologist should study and write theories about...

Swift_Boss_A

Umm What?

They are outselling X360 in JPN and EU. And WII in JPN

Only place left is NA and that a territoty where PS3 has NO heavy hitters. aand considering its the most expensive I'd say this is all expected.

Highest Price tag and None of that titles that made PS1 and PS2 what they were

Dude there's no point explaining anything to Pimpshigity21, his the biggest fanboy on sysetm wars walking around with "I hate PS3" tatooed on his head :lol:

Explaining? LOL. All I see are cows pounding their chests while using vgchartz numbers or Sony press releases. You gotta be kidding.

Explain this: Why did Sony lower prices and release new SKUs less than a year after launching the PS3?

lol 360 fanboys are hilarious. Sony launches PS3 with a $600 price tag and the lemmings make fun by saying its over priced then Sony decreases the price and now the 360 fans are saying Sony is desperate ? talk about hipocrites.

new SKU's, lets see Sony has a 40gb PS3 and a 80gb while Microsoft has, elete, premium, halo edition and arcade edition. Microsoft are the one who make new SKU's every friken month :lol: get your facts straight

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !

Believe me next year PS3 will kick 360's a** all over the place,

now *taps head* run along little lemming.

Another cow pounding his chest.

Sony only has a 40gb and a 80gb SKU, you say? Did you forget the two that they it discontinued? How about the the price drop some months ago? MS decreased the price only after more than a year had gone by. MS released additional SKUs with more features at an increase of price.

MS decreased the price by $50...Sony is now up to $200 and people are still turning their backs at the arrogant company. Next week Sony will release the $50 PS3 and people will still chose the 360 over Sony's clunker. :lol:

Your post is all chest pounding and no substance. Try harder next time.

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#74 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

QFT

Sony is in big, big trouble. Only a miracle can save them now. How cows can say that they are doing just dandy is a phenomenon psychologist should study and write theories about...

Swift_Boss_A

Umm What?

They are outselling X360 in JPN and EU. And WII in JPN

Only place left is NA and that a territoty where PS3 has NO heavy hitters. aand considering its the most expensive I'd say this is all expected.

Highest Price tag and None of that titles that made PS1 and PS2 what they were

Dude there's no point explaining anything to Pimpshigity21, his the biggest fanboy on sysetm wars walking around with "I hate PS3" tatooed on his head :lol:

Explaining? LOL. All I see are cows pounding their chests while using vgchartz numbers or Sony press releases. You gotta be kidding.

Explain this: Why did Sony lower prices and release new SKUs less than a year after launching the PS3?

lol 360 fanboys are hilarious. Sony launches PS3 with a $600 price tag and the lemmings make fun by saying its over priced then Sony decreases the price and now the 360 fans are saying Sony is desperate ? talk about hipocrites.

new SKU's, lets see Sony has a 40gb PS3 and a 80gb while Microsoft has, elete, premium, halo edition and arcade edition. Microsoft are the one who make new SKU's every friken month :lol: get your facts straight

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !

Believe me next year PS3 will kick 360's a** all over the place,

now *taps head* run along little lemming.

Another cow pounding his chest. :?

Sony only has a 40gb and a 80gb SKU, you say? Did you forget the two that they it discontinued? How about the price drop some months ago? MS decreased the price only after more than a year had gone by. MS released additional SKUs with more features at an increase of price.

MS decreased the price by $50...Sony is now up to $200 and people are still turning their backs at the arrogant company. Next week Sony will release the $50 PS3 and people will still chose the 360 over Sony's clunker. :lol:

Your post is all chest pounding and no substance. Try harder next time.

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#75 Truth-slayer
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360 sold 8 million in its first year

ps3's still at 5 million right now

hopefully things will change for sony :D

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It has sold about 6.5 million.... It needs to sell at 1.5 million more...
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#76 jzen_
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The 360 didn't sell 10 million last year. It sold something like 8.5m or something. I think the PS3 could hit 8.5 this year, and sell over 11m (Possibly somewhere around 15m depending on how much they can snag the casual market with LBP) before the end of Q2 '080rin
agreed and would find it to be pretty awesome if they hit this mark. maybe it'll settle the dispute as to which sells better. why can't we jus be equal, right?
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#77 Medic_B
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Xbox sold 10 mill by years end ps3 is no ware near.
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#78 jzen_
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

QFT

Sony is in big, big trouble. Only a miracle can save them now. How cows can say that they are doing just dandy is a phenomenon psychologist should study and write theories about...

Swift_Boss_A

Umm What?

They are outselling X360 in JPN and EU. And WII in JPN

Only place left is NA and that a territoty where PS3 has NO heavy hitters. aand considering its the most expensive I'd say this is all expected.

Highest Price tag and None of that titles that made PS1 and PS2 what they were

Dude there's no point explaining anything to Pimpshigity21, his the biggest fanboy on sysetm wars walking around with "I hate PS3" tatooed on his head :lol:

Explaining? LOL. All I see are cows pounding their chests while using vgchartz numbers or Sony press releases. You gotta be kidding.

Explain this: Why did Sony lower prices and release new SKUs less than a year after launching the PS3?

lol 360 fanboys are hilarious. Sony launches PS3 with a $600 price tag and the lemmings make fun by saying its over priced then Sony decreases the price and now the 360 fans are saying Sony is desperate ? talk about hipocrites.

new SKU's, lets see Sony has a 40gb PS3 and a 80gb while Microsoft has, elete, premium, halo edition and arcade edition. Microsoft are the one who make new SKU's every friken month :lol: get your facts straight

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !

Believe me next year PS3 will kick 360's a** all over the place,

now *taps head* run along little lemming.

i cant wait for this day to come. what wil the 360 fanboy's have as an excuse next? i own all three, and love them all, but see more blatant remarks from the 360 f-boyz
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#79 100Gamer
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"]Not at all, actually. MS announced at the end of December '06 that it had sold 10.4 Million 360s. The PS3 is sitting pretty at4-5Million units sold - it has a TON of ground to cover if it hopes to match the 360 in the one year mark. I doubt it will, however.Blinblingthing

You're pulling number's out of your ass. :(

Thats why they stink.

M$ shipped that amount, Just so they would look good towards its investors.


link? stop making up stuff :|

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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

QFT

Sony is in big, big trouble. Only a miracle can save them now. How cows can say that they are doing just dandy is a phenomenon psychologist should study and write theories about...

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Umm What?

They are outselling X360 in JPN and EU. And WII in JPN

Only place left is NA and that a territoty where PS3 has NO heavy hitters. aand considering its the most expensive I'd say this is all expected.

Highest Price tag and None of that titles that made PS1 and PS2 what they were

Dude there's no point explaining anything to Pimpshigity21, his the biggest fanboy on sysetm wars walking around with "I hate PS3" tatooed on his head :lol:

Explaining? LOL. All I see are cows pounding their chests while using vgchartz numbers or Sony press releases. You gotta be kidding.

Explain this: Why did Sony lower prices and release new SKUs less than a year after launching the PS3?

lol 360 fanboys are hilarious. Sony launches PS3 with a $600 price tag and the lemmings make fun by saying its over priced then Sony decreases the price and now the 360 fans are saying Sony is desperate ? talk about hipocrites.

new SKU's, lets see Sony has a 40gb PS3 and a 80gb while Microsoft has, elete, premium, halo edition and arcade edition. Microsoft are the one who make new SKU's every friken month :lol: get your facts straight

360 is dead in Japan and selling lacklustre in Europe, only America is where 360 is doing well. 360 has sold 4+ million in Europe which took 2 years while PS3 has reached half of that but in only 8 months !

Believe me next year PS3 will kick 360's a** all over the place,

now *taps head* run along little lemming.

i cant wait for this day to come. what wil the 360 fanboy's have as an excuse next? i own all three, and love them all, but see more blatant remarks from the 360 f-boyz

Keep waiting....it's what cows do best.