Is "Ray Tracing" going to be common future lighting tech?

I saw an article about what Mark Cerny asked devs wanted in the PS4. One of the things a dev said was "if there is GPU capable of Ray Tracing we DON´T want it" (because of developing complications). So i decided to investigate a bit about this and what i found is simply AMAZING!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_tracing_%28graphics%29

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/135788-investigating-ray-tracing-the-next-big-thing-in-gaming-graphics

We know that PS4/X1 won´t really use it because it sucks up all computing power, but could we expect this in the generation after?

(Implementing global dynamic lighting on DriveClub seems already to be very consuming for the PS4...)

At some point, at the present it takes up too much computing power, but in the future it will likely be the easier less time consuming tool to have at hand.

For PC yeah, for consoles no. clyde46

Really? You think by 2023 when the PS5 launches the tech will still not be accessible ($$)?

Thats dissapointing.... :(

idk if it's worth it. For the amount of power it would require, you could do some stunning things using rasterization. And during gameplay would you notice.

PC will have it a lot sooner if it comes at all. It will be a long time before consoles have the power to do it. 

There are already forms of real time ray tracing coming to pc platforms, will only be a matter of time for pc games exclusive games to have it implemented. Consoles, hmm maybe next gen after this coming one. It really makes for some incredible lighting, but it is no big deal that current consoles won't likely have access to it

generation after? bit too early to be talking about anything regarding that gen. I expect pc to feature ray tracing commonlycampzor

The PS4 isn't capable of doing Ray Tracing in real-time. Even with the amount of compute power it has, it still won't be enough to do it in real-time. :lol: You do realize that the next gen games have brought nothing to the graphics technology table, right?faizan_faizan

Completely not the point... what about reading OPs BEFORE posting your stupid comments?
I did SAY clearly GENERATION AFTER X1/PS4!

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]The PS4 isn't capable of doing Ray Tracing in real-time. Even with the amount of compute power it has, it still won't be enough to do it in real-time. :lol: You do realize that the next gen games have brought nothing to the graphics technology table, right?ManatuBeard

Completely not the point... what about reading OPs BEFORE posting your stupid comments?
I did SAY clearly GENERATION AFTER X1/PS4!

[QUOTE="campzor"]generation after? bit too early to be talking about anything regarding that gen. I expect pc to feature ray tracing commonlyGuy_Brohski

Next next-gen material.

Even the best PCs today struggle to get playlable framerates with full-scene ray-tracing.

(Implementing global dynamic lighting on DriveClub seems already to be very consuming for the PS4...)ManatuBeard

On topic, here Path traceing and Ray tracing in action running on WebGL with use of shaders you can see how fast it is: http://madebyevan.com/webgl-path-tracing/ http://www.atmind.nl/webgl/marchingpath.html http://glsl.heroku.com/ <- not all of them are ray-trace Use Chrome, it has a lot faster WebGL They mgiht look fast but heep in mind it just simple renders One plus of ray traceing is that there no need of vertexes so it a lot easier to edit shapesShadowriverUB

Of course. Except that we're currently talking about Ray Tracing. I knew you would bring up Path Tracing in.

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]On topic, here Path traceing and Ray tracing in action running on WebGL with use of shaders you can see how fast it is: http://madebyevan.com/webgl-path-tracing/ http://www.atmind.nl/webgl/marchingpath.html http://glsl.heroku.com/ <- not all of them are ray-trace Use Chrome, it has a lot faster WebGL They mgiht look fast but heep in mind it just simple renders One plus of ray traceing is that there no need of vertexes so it a lot easier to edit shapesfaizan_faizan

Of course. Except that we're currently talking about Ray Tracing. I knew you would bring up Path Tracing in.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] Either PC, current GPU ray-traicing is hack of pixel shader which does not work real-time. Ray Traicing is complitly diffrent way of rendering and GPU need to be set up for that task in order for this to work without killing CPU. But yeah, ray-traicing is the future, it already here but it needs processing power, in fact it might be theme of next (After PS4 and Xbone) generationShadowriverUB

Although if you're talking about the SIMD/MIMD architectures, then you can read my post above which I already stated previously.

So, theoretically, we will need BOTH hardware optimized CPU and GPU for full ray tracing? Wouldnt it be easier to use a very powerfull GPGPU for both the logic+visuals?