Is ray tracing a big deal to you?

It's not. The wet patches, mirrors, shiny floors are all using a combination of screen space reflections and planar reflections by the looks of it. COD's Raytracing is in its shadows. There are no ray traced surfaces in COD Cold War.

Just look at this for DLSS 2.0 running on my machine. You wouldn't know by looking at it that in reality it's only 720p upscaled to 1440P.

I will add my own benchmark DF uses for the 'Corridor of Doom' once YouTube is finished making it HD.

Well they did a fantastic job then.

DLSS 2.0 720P upscaled to 1440P. Plays great, YouTube poor compression aside. Locked 60 fps.

More candy won't bother me, but it's what it is : just some candy.

Nothing to brag about, and not a game changer!!!!

Full raytracing is a waste of GPU power, the only place I think it is well used is in places where normal lighting does not do well. In, such as reflective surfaces.

Perhaps game engines could use a mix of different methods based on occlusion and distance rather than brute force.

Nvidia implemention is a gimmick.

Perhaps they could do reverse light bounce from the object, or use in engine methods to calculate distance from objects, or use a priority system where certain objects get more priority for advanced raytracing based on frame times on the GPU so it optimises itself in realtime.

I think from a realistic graphics point of view it is a 'game changer'. Thing is I've owned an RTX card since last September and every game that I own that has RT I've enabled it. Once you see it, it can't be 'unseen' lol.

On a console it's different, the performance just isn't there. But if you had a game with a locked 60 fps and RT, you wouldn't turn it off.

It really depends on the game. I would like to see ray tracing on Cyberpunk but really i don't give a shit if it's on a Mario game or not.

@NoodleFighter would like to see Nvidia but I don't think it's ever gonna happen as doing that would affect porting between consoles and to PC. Also licensing issues.

@Bond007uk:

That's your point of view and i'm ok with that.

If the difference between the two is a game changer for you, well good for you!!!

As far as i'm concerned, i don't pay much attention to trivial things while playing.

Would be, but I can't buy the fucking hardware that supports it lol.

@sovkhan said:

@Bond007uk:

That's your point of view and i'm ok with that.

If the difference between the two is a game changer for you, well good for you!!!

As far as i'm concerned, i don't pay much attention to trivial things while playing.

Why that picture?

Is that what your basing RT on? Terrible example.

That game uses RT global illumination. You only notice it in certain areas. That's not one of them.

Wouldn't say I'm exactly blown away atm, but they're features I'm glad more devs can start working with.

When it's done right, the results can already be impressive. Chucking a ray traced puddle or two into a hyper-crafted, baked FPS environment isn't going to have much effect on the overall impact of the scene, but add sophisticated illumination techniques to a less visually messy game, like Minecraft, where you've still got the free resources to implement RT extensively, and you end up with a next-gen look that's, to my eye, still out of reach for most standard AAA titles. Will any of the big devs catch onto this notion before Nintendo? Probably not, and that's not such a bad thing really.

@Bond007uk:

Feel free to find a pic that shows how the RT gimmick is a game changer!!!

Pretty sure it won't change what i think of the technique, but you can give it a try.

@sovkhan

RTX off

There is light coming through the Window, but the room is incorrectly lit as there is light where there shouldn't be any light.

Room is now more correctly lit. The centre is bright (as it should be), and the rest of the room is dark.

That's ray traced global illumination in Metro Exodus. Probably not a 'game changer', each to their own, but gimmick it is not.

Metro Exodus has full ray tracing, and is a game changer.

Most of the other ray traced games only have ray traced reflections:

My eyes are still RT virgin. Haven't played a single game with RT on.

I agree with this. Ray tracing is really the next gen experience in my book but it's very expensive performance wise. The next gen consoles having it even if it's not the best version will allow developers to really go forward with RT for all future games. I expect this in the future to be a transformative change in graphics and something no one will want to turn back from. The pro consoles in a few years will feature a huge improvement in ray tracing I believe.

I agree with this too. But only because right now is the dawn of RT because it just got to consoles. 99% of games don't even have RT so why spend so much of your GPU budget on a feature that won't really be utilized fully for years. The RT in the 6800 RT is far superior than consoles so you can play anything on console only way better. The RT performance even on the 3090 with DLSS isn't that great and that's a $1,500 GPU. Why own yourself when in a couple of years a $400 GPU will smash the 3090 in everything including Ray Tracing.

Because the next gen consoles have it, we can assume all future next gen games will have some sort of implementation of it. Of course it will scale with hardware and the PC version will have the beast mode version. For right now it makes sense to have a 6800 XT which has more RAM and performance and also good RT performance for the following years until RT is everywhere and by then you can upgrade to a beast mode RT performance GPU which all will be by that time.

still will pass. it not impress me at all.

Have it on my RTX 3080.

Meh..............definitely no, without DLSS. People can claim what they want--when you are playing the game and not just solely looking at the game, you don't notice much---if at all. I don't stop to look at reflections, shadows, global illumination, etc.

I've never noticed that the light post/tree/car is not properly reflected off the floor puddle because its in a wrong position "unless" real ray-tracing. Never noticed that shadows are not properly fuzzier or sharper depending on position of the sun and distance. Never really noticed one illumination of the world shining properly while the fake one isn't shining in the correct shade of dark. Look, don't get me wrong, it's great tech but not worth at the expense.

@Bond007uk:

Excuse me, while playing i don't have time to distract myself by such trivial details.

I won't pause the game to make sure that a room is well lit!!!

And the difference is so trivial that i'm wondering what is this hype all about??

But you're right, to each their own.

Yes, we know "th".

In all fairness, that RTX On/Off makes a solid argument.

If it’s for JAPANIMEEEEEE games then GOOOOOOOOOO

No game has me convinced its something i need and the performance is still terrible so yea.

Depending on the scene in the game the difference can be trivial or pretty huge. One of the most immediate differences you can tell is that in RT mode the lighting and the surfaces it shines on are more colorful and shadows aren't just solid black.

In my opinion, high res and ray tracing is a bit of a waste of resources. Would rather push normal graphics quality.

@NoodleFighter:

I won't call that a game changer, sure it could be a nice feature to have but the price for it, performance wise , is not worth as far as i'm concerned.

But i can understand that some people may find it important or even innovative.