Is Switch a console or handheld?

Console is a subset of PC.

Neither. It's a toy.

Or both. It can be both I guess.

I repeat, if you say PC = a console in different box fine by me, I accept then Switch is console too

I have always said its a tablet, and if you recall, I have always argued to you that the Console as a word is irrelevant. As stated above, it has 1:1 functionality with a traditional console, there is no correct label, it is what it is.

Console - ": an electronic system that connects to a display (such as a television set) and is used primarily to play video games" - The Switch fits that bill.

Any further debate is pointless. We can just argue that the word "console" for PS4/Xbox X is just a marketing gimmick for simpletons who think the term "Walled Garden HTPC" is too hard to understand. either way, it really doesn't matter.

If you can't understand that, then no, we can't debate again.

Nooo , dont do this please and make me go back and show you your own posts, come on now lets move on. We agree on something finally. We both know what you were saying over and over.

Finally you admit the obvious. All Switch is is a handheld with the ability to play like a console via an external device. Exactly what i was saying from the very begining. Dont tell me now we were debating all this time because you were saying the very same thing. Nope, i can prove that. Come on now, dont do this please. Anyways, Thank god you get it already and finally you talk some sense.

EDIT : Console - ": an electronic system that connects to a display (such as a television set) and is used primarily to play video games" - The Switch fits that bill.

PC and my mobile phone also fits that, are they consoles ? You never answered that. Also Switch itself cant be connected to a display it needs an external device. So technically is an electronic device that CANT connect to a display. Does that make my PC even more of a console that Switch since it doesnt need any add-on for display connection ? By your Wikipedia definition my PC is more of a console than Switch.

You get it now or not ?

I'm talking about calling a spade a spade, not what spade manufacturer decided you should call it.

I don't trust you because i own a 3DSXL and i know exactly how long it lasts and how much it weights.

Switch is just a tad more hefty and lasts a bit longer. A LOT longer if we're talking sleep mode. Vita 1-ups it by about an hour in battery life.

So "people" can argue themselves up the ass. Switch destroys 3DS as a portable console.

Don't act like you did any better with it.

This will never go anywhere because you're too far up your own ass playing Nostradamus and splitting hairs instead of presenting sound arguments for why Switch is a hybrid and not a portable boxed with an HDMI cable.

I'm arguing with people who base their entire position on a company's word. Your point?

@R10nu: I can't prove you wrong because you're making up your own definition for everything. You haven't done a single thing to prove that Switch isn't a console when in docked mode other than making an arbitrary power requirement. And my reasoning was as objective as you can get. Can it be a console out of the box? Yes. Can it be a handheld out of the box? Yes. Then it's both. It doesn't get anymore objective than that. As I said, you just can't tell the difference between a fact and and opinion. And no, the battery life is definitely worse. I have both and can say that with certainty. It only lasts an hour and a half in some games like Splatoon 2.

How about a meet you in the middle so we aren't here for ages. It's primarily a handheld and can be used as a console. I will admit that from a design standpoint it favors the handheld side more and that it would need to be able to use an external SoC in order to fully satisfy console gamers; however, I don't think it being a bad console means that it's not one at all.

How about you prove yourself right before making it all about me.

You're asking me to prove a negative claim when you can't substantiate a positive one. Then you think that finding faults in my argumentation makes you objectively right.

It's very cute.

Can there be martians? Yes. Then there are.

Yay.

If your Switch lasts an hour and a half in any game you should turn it in.

Or stop making shit up.

As with my earlier example, a microscope being a bad hammer makes it not a hammer.

It's dead simple.

@R10nu: Hm, maybe something is wrong with my Switch then. A lot of people were saying the same thing closer to release though. Either way it's still shorter than 3DS since games that could only last 3 hours on that are rare.

And I've already proven the positive. You just just keep throwing out every metaphor you can think of to say that I'm wrong because you don't understand what an opinion is. That Martian one is fucking stupid btw.

I'm done. My goal wasn't to convince you in the first place. I have my opinion, you have yours (and any "position" on a matter is automatically an opinion).

EDIT: The funny part of this is that if you had looked up the definition you would have had a stronger argument than "HURR DURR 2 WEAK"

If it's a console, it'd really damn underpowered and once again, you're going to miss out on third party releases as the gen goes on as a result.

If it's a handheld, it doesn't get to sit at the big boy table when were discussing consoles. So pick one and we'll move on from there.

How about option 3.

It's there, its competing, it will offer probably a much broader list of exclusives than the other 2 consoles. So yea, probably a secondary system. But we are back to square one of any successful Nintendo generation where, PC + Nintendo nearly makes the other 2 redundant.

@MBirdy88: They can't be that redundant when PS4 is winning the gen by vast numbers. So that's just a bitter argument.

Stop using the PC as a buffer to defend Switch. It stands on it's own feet or it doesn't.

eh ok then, by System Wars standards:

it has handheld size, handheld performance, handheld price, handheld games, its made by nintendo and sell like nintendo handhelds (much unlike nintendo last console),

sorry nintendo fans trying to pretend nintendo is still in the console business, you know its a handheld

£280 is handheld price?

Handheld games? damn ... I mean, must be embracing that after 4 years of "market leading greatness" cannot output a better game than the Handheld games BOTW and Mario Odysee.... ouch.

Love that a handheld is causing so much salt.