Is the $200 360 slim the best deal around? (poll)

[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Do having a game console with no wifi, no hard drive, and still having to pay $50 a year for online is a fantastic deal? You can't even play like 1/3 of the games out there (at least properly) without an expensive MS hard drive, one that comes cheaper if it comes with the 360.

TC, you cannot possibly be serious in any way shape or form in saying the arcade is a good deal.

SPYDER0416

Wi fi eh? Well it finally has something PS3 has had for years lol.

But even the internal 4GB memory is extremely limited and doesn't count as a hard drive, the only way to even play co-op, use forge or play firefight in Halo Reach is by having an expensive hard drive. So you can consider it a great deal as you play half of your $60 game, or you could get an actual deal by not getting the gimped version that forces you to by an expensive drive to play something good. Don't even mention Forza 3, a game that cannot at ALL be played without the need to install to the drive, you know, making the whole 100% thing a little higher than in real life.

edit: Just saw you do need a HDD to play certain game modes in Reach, but I'm not aware of any other games like that.

I remember Skittles' thread regarding the purchase of a 4gb Arcade. Suffice to say, it didn't go over too well.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I remember Skittles' thread regarding the purchase of a 4gb Arcade. Suffice to say, it didn't go over too well.

Rockman999

Of course a 4GB PS3 model is not possible because many games require installs. This is another way that Blu-ray is keeping the PS3 too expensive. Even now that the drive prices have gone way down, the fact that installs are required, translates to hard drives are required and this keeps costs up.

alexfla

I know I'm just feeding the troll, but you do know that a 20gb laptop HDD would be dirt cheap if bought in mass by a manufacturer like Sony, right? I mean, you can get a 120 gb laptop HDD for like 40 bucks on newegg, and that's a markup price for end consumers.... You have to know this, don't you?

A HDD large enough to accommodate game saves and several large installs wouldn't be a primary factor in keeping PS3 prices high... that's just nonsense.

And yet it costs $130 for a 250gb hard drive when I could get twice as much memory for my PS3/PC for $30 less.

Its like giving us a large soda for 50 cents and charging $10 for the straw.

Poll literally has no good answers so not gonna choose one.

But no, it's not the best deal.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I remember Skittles' thread regarding the purchase of a 4gb Arcade. Suffice to say, it didn't go over too well.

Karnage108

Apparently the issue is being looked into and is a problem on behalf of the game (Halo 3/ODST/Reach) not seeing the 4gb Flash mem as the requisite. Apparently it works on the old Arcades, for what that's worth with 256 megs of mem.

SLI gtx 460's for $340 is the best deal around. i5750at4Ghz

It has been proven many times over that it's easyto build a decent gaming PC with somewhere around 350$ and 500$, if we link "best deal" to overall value, yes the PC offers more, strictly for gaming and easy to pick up and play 299$ Ps3 definitely.

it's a great deal imo, not the best tho.

If they would just change the 4GB 360 to say a 20GB it would be a tremendous deal...as it is 4 just seems to chinchy.

I voted for pc cause you only need a 400 to 500 buck pc to own the 360 badly.

The 250GB Slim is the best deal for a 360:

$299.99

• 250GB HDD
• Slim conosle
• WIFI N
• Headset included
• HDMI
• 1 free month of XBL Gold

and add 1 year of XBL Gold:

$59.99

GRAND TOTAL: $359.98

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Do having a game console with no wifi, no hard drive, and still having to pay $50 a year for online is a fantastic deal? You can't even play like 1/3 of the games out there (at least properly) without an expensive MS hard drive, one that comes cheaper if it comes with the 360.

TC, you cannot possibly be serious in any way shape or form in saying the arcade is a good deal.

alexfla

You guys are tripping. I just won a 4GB Slim, and it's an incredible piece of hardware for $200. Easily the best deal on the market.

What's with people acting like you need more than 4GB? Aside from optional game installs, 4GB is more than sufficient.

gamecubepad

Of course if you want to wait three times as long for loading times, no demos and no other form of DLC.

Your poll screams fanboy. I would say no based on the recent revelations that 4gig users can't play online coop Halo and other games due to Msofts unreasonable demands to purchase a hard drive.

kuu2

singing flower??? Is that supposed to be a jab at PS3. I was actually playing flower this morning...you have a problem with that?

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

You guys are tripping. I just won a 4GB Slim, and it's an incredible piece of hardware for $200. Easily the best deal on the market.

What's with people acting like you need more than 4GB? Aside from optional game installs, 4GB is more than sufficient.

dovberg

Of course if you want to wait three times as long for loading times, no demos and no other form of DLC.

singing flower??? Is that supposed to be a jab at PS3. I was actually playing flower this morning...you have a problem with that?

dovberg

Actually hes not referring to Flower. He thinks Littlebigplanet is a singing flower game. Funny huh?

Apparently a lot of online portions of games require hard drive and won't let you with flash memory, so I would say terrible deal. if fixed I would say decent deal, still not great, better off paying the extra 100 dollars.

The $2000.00 gaming PC is cheaper to me in this crazy upside down world you created in this thread that your suggestion is a good idea.Jynxzor

Apparently a lot of online portions of games require hard drive and won't let you with flash memory, so I would say terrible deal. if fixed I would say decent deal, still not great, better off paying the extra 100 dollars.

Diviniuz

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

Apparently a lot of online portions of games require hard drive and won't let you with flash memory, so I would say terrible deal. if fixed I would say decent deal, still not great, better off paying the extra 100 dollars.

alexfla

[QUOTE="alexfla"]Of course a 4GB PS3 model is not possible because many games require installs. This is another way that Blu-ray is keeping the PS3 too expensive. Even now that the drive prices have gone way down, the fact that installs are required, translates to hard drives are required and this keeps costs up.

santoron

I know I'm just feeding the troll, but you do know that a 20gb laptop HDD would be dirt cheap if bought in mass by a manufacturer like Sony, right? I mean, you can get a 120 gb laptop HDD for like 40 bucks on newegg, and that's a markup price for end consumers.... You have to know this, don't you?

A HDD large enough to accommodate game saves and several large installs wouldn't be a primary factor in keeping PS3 prices high... that's just nonsense.

wouldn't the $150 arcade be a better deal anyways? IMO wireless is not needed because if you have wireless you probably have a laptop and it can have a bridge so the older model works about the same.

Nice biased poll options...

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

It has been proven many times over that it's easyto build a decent gaming PC with somewhere around 350$ and 500$, if we link "best deal" to overall value, yes the PC offers more, strictly for gaming and easy to pick up and play 299$ Ps3 definitely.

kuu2

Show me.

From Newegg:

Athena slim micro-atx case + 400W PSU -> $50

Hitachi 500GB SATA 3.0Gb/s -> $54

Asus DVD-ROM -> $17

Logitech KB+Optical Mouse -> $22

Trendnet wireless G network adapter -> $8

Crucial 2x1GB DDR2 800 dual channel kit -> $39

Athlon II X2 245 2.9GHz dual-core CPU + Biostar MCP6P3 AM3 mobo -> $93

Asus HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 700MHz core, 720 spu's -> $90

Windows 7 Premium 64-bit -> $100

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3-day shipping -> $25

Total: $498

Runs Crysis High Settings, 1680x1050 4xAA @ 30fps. High, 1080p 4xAA @ 25fps.

L4D Very High, 2560x1600 4xAA @ 39fps.

RE5 High, 2560x1600 4xAA @36fps.

Could have gone with something way cheaper, but this still fits nicely within the sub-$500 pricerange.

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Of course if you want to wait three times as long for loading times, no demos and no other form of DLC.

dovberg

Why couldn't you have DLC? 4GB is enough for 2 DLC map packs for a game like COD4 or H3, then 6-10 XBLA games, 50-100 game saves, and you'd still have around 1GB left over. 16GB jump drive, or 20GB modded 360 HDD for only $25. Easy as that.

considering you can use old hdd's and you can buy a 250gb hdd on ebay for $60. Yes its a good deal. Looks wise it blows ps3 out the water!!!!

I think it would be a good deal-- but if you can afford it, get the model with the hard drive.

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

You guys are tripping. I just won a 4GB Slim, and it's an incredible piece of hardware for $200. Easily the best deal on the market.

What's with people acting like you need more than 4GB? Aside from optional game installs, 4GB is more than sufficient.

alexfla

Of course if you want to wait three times as long for loading times, no demos and no other form of DLC.

my web browser has some issues so I can't post links but it was written in Joystiq today, there was an article about load times with installed game vs without for Halo:Reach. I'm sure the reason why they did this was because of the issues with the installed Halo 3. Personally when I've installed games I've noticed the difference IMO games like Oblivion are a huge pain without an HDD. Of course this is actually up to about 3 times faster not always exactly that but the article is there at joystiq. I might change browsers if you aren't able to find it easily. I edited and went and and did what said I would http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/15/halo-reach-load-times-compared-hard-drive-install-vs-disc/

I also got to say that I love when people say they know that someone else hasn't played a game enough if they didn't like it or they can't possibly have ever owned a system if they have had a different experience with their system, without even looking at a person's profile or anything...there are clearly exclusive 360 games rated.

Oh I also got to add it makes the system play games much quieter but as far as I know with the new systems that isn't applicable.

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

singing flower??? Is that supposed to be a jab at PS3. I was actually playing flower this morning...you have a problem with that?

Kholdstare14

Actually hes not referring to Flower. He thinks Littlebigplanet is a singing flower game. Funny huh?

I totally don't get how.

I laughed so hard when I saw "somehow the ubber $2000 pc is cheaper".

:lol:

Demon's Souls is dropping to $29.99... so there you go TC, there's the best deal around. You're welcome.

Dont forget to add $60 for XBL. That comes out to $260. Add another $20 for the Play and Charge kit. Thats $280. Might as well get a PS3 and forget about making it $340 next year.

And you cant play Halo Reach co-op with the 4 GB model. Absolute fail.