Is the $200 sku of the X360 the reason it sells so well?

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#1 Tony-Baxter
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If you consider the cash it takes to buy both systems it's no wonder the Xbox is winning.

On the X360's first day available it had a $300 sku ($200 less than a 20gb PS3 at launch)

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#2 Pug-Nasty
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That logic fails when you consider the fact that the ps3 outsold it since it launched.

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#3 TheEroica  Moderator
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Ms has the wow factor too.... ps3 is drab and uninviting. My new years party the other night i sold four xboxs with kinect just by telling my xbox to play last.fm... people love that stuff... granted i love my xbox for skyrim but there in lies the answer.... xbox has a lot of gaming and experiences for everyone.
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It's a party in a box.

It's slick and fun to use.

Goes beyond just being a "console."

Every person who has sat down at my 360 has bought one.

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#5 bonesawisready5
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That logic fails when you consider the fact that the ps3 outsold it since it launched.

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In Japan and possibly in Europe (I don't know about Europe really) In America, the 360 has outsold the PS3 by a lot
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#6 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

That logic fails when you consider the fact that the ps3 outsold it since it launched.

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In Japan and possibly in Europe (I don't know about Europe really) In America, the 360 has outsold the PS3 by a lot

Indeed, xbox 360 is 12.000.000 ahead of PS3 in US at least and the gap is only widening every month

Will be 1.000.000 more with December sales

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The PS3 is in fact beating the 360 in the EU.

Anyway, the $200 SKU isn't driving the 360 forward. Its the marketing push with CoD [which is actually brilliant on their part] and probably the gigantic marketing push with the Kinect [which, if you actually care about games, SUCKS].

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The reason the 360 sales so much is because of Microsoft's advertising, price point and Kinect.
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#9 Eponique
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Probably. I saw the SKU going around for $130 at a lot of stores this week.
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#10 Badosh
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Kinect.
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#11 OhSnapitz
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The PS3 is in fact beating the 360 in the EU.

Anyway, the $200 SKU isn't driving the 360 forward. Its the marketing push with CoD [which is actually brilliant on their part] and probably the gigantic marketing push with the Kinect [which, if you actually care about games, SUCKS].

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based on what numbers?
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#12 Adamantium4k2
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So this is what the lemmings have for 2012?

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#13 todd2r
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It sells well because your friend has one, his friend has one, his friend friends have one, their friends have one, and so on and so on. It's the IT console to have, especially in USA. Once something becomes popular with the IT crowd, no one else has a shot. That's why there's nothing Sony can do outside of giving away free consoles, that's gonna get them back in the race. Can't wait to see the holiday sales numbers for the Xbox.
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#14 Will47
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Price point, exclusives, and in all honestly Kinect. There have been so many times I've been at school and told someone I have a 360 they say "Oh I want a Kinect too", little do they know I don't have one...
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ms and sony are nothing alike, one is known for quantity and is known for quality.

so everytime someone braggs about sales between x360 and ps3, i laugh.

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So this is what the lemmings have for 2012?

Adamantium4k2

Well I can't speak for the lemmings, but this is what I have for 2012..

..Unless *insert fanboy gamer* is some sort of gimp who doesn't like/play multiplats.. :?

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If you consider the cash it takes to buy both systems it's no wonder the Xbox is winning.

On the X360's first day available it had a $300 sku ($200 less than a 20gb PS3 at launch)

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Yeah it couldn't be because it has a great library, superb features, and a robust online foundation....:roll:
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#18 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Adamantium4k2"]

So this is what the lemmings have for 2012?

OhSnapitz

Well I can't speak for the lemmings, but this is what I have for 2012..

..Unless *insert fanboy gamer* is some sort of gimp who doesn't like/play multiplats.. :?

Most refreshing post ive read in a long time....

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November 2012 - Final nail in sony's coffin

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#20 K-76
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November 2012 - Final nail in Sony's coffin

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#21 Nonstop-Madness
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The 360 is the most connected box. Thats why America loves the 360 yet the PS3 usually outsells the 360 everywhere else.
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#22 OhSnapitz
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The 360 is the most connected box. Thats why America loves the 360 yet the PS3 usually outsells the 360 everywhere else. Nonstop-Madness
Do you have numbers from Europe?
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MS sells, because of it's advertisements. That has always been sony's weak point, They can't advertise for sh!t and when they do It's only for a franchise that is established (GT5,Uncharted,God of war).
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]The 360 is the most connected box. Thats why America loves the 360 yet the PS3 usually outsells the 360 everywhere else. OhSnapitz
Do you have numbers from Europe?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-28-ps3-leads-2011-european-hardware-sales

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-09-analysed-lifetime-ps3-and-360-sales

Its pretty much common knowledge that the 360 only outsells the PS3 in NA. Europe is always close between the PS3 and 360 but the PS3 takes the cake.

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Ah but you see, the 360 isn't winning. It's simple math if you wish to know which is selling better. Take the system take the total units sold and divide it by the total month that system has been out. Now you can see the PS3 is clearly beating the 360 in sales. I love how fanboys always try to ignore that fact.
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#26 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

That logic fails when you consider the fact that the ps3 outsold it since it launched.

loosingENDS

In Japan and possibly in Europe (I don't know about Europe really) In America, the 360 has outsold the PS3 by a lot

Indeed, xbox 360 is 12.000.000 ahead of PS3 in US at least and the gap is only widening every month

Will be 1.000.000 more with December sales

Are you really that stupid or do you just like to pretend you are? The gap is getting smaller junior, not wider. Try to keep up with the real world instead of the fantasy world you are clearly living in now.
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The box can do so much now, thats why it sells. Exclusive games are useless to those who plan to use it as a media hub, which it excels at. I know of older people who got one with kinect just to operate the new dashboard and apps. There is nothing like it on PS3 or Wii.
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#28 vtoshkatur
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It's a party in a box.

It's slick and fun to use.

Goes beyond just being a "console."

Every person who has sat down at my 360 has bought one.

LazySloth718

:lol:

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#29 Adamantium4k2
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November 2012 - Final nail in sony's coffin

K-76

Just like these where suppose to kill Sony:lol:

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Ah but you see, the 360 isn't winning. It's simple math if you wish to know which is selling better. Take the system take the total units sold and divide it by the total month that system has been out. Now you can see the PS3 is clearly beating the 360 in sales. I love how fanboys always try to ignore that fact.AmazonTreeBoa

That's because Sony had done tons of price cuts on the PS3 a LOT more since launch just to even stay competitive with the Xbox 360 out of desperation. ;)

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Ah but you see, the 360 isn't winning. It's simple math if you wish to know which is selling better. Take the system take the total units sold and divide it by the total month that system has been out. Now you can see the PS3 is clearly beating the 360 in sales. I love how fanboys always try to ignore that fact.AmazonTreeBoa
like ignoring the fact that total sales the 360 has sold more. Or better yet, the Wii crushed both. Put in parameters and exceptions all you want. We all justify in our own way, but if talking facts lets stick to the basics, its in 3 rd place, period.
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Ah but you see, the 360 isn't winning. It's simple math if you wish to know which is selling better. Take the system take the total units sold and divide it by the total month that system has been out. Now you can see the PS3 is clearly beating the 360 in sales. I love how fanboys always try to ignore that fact.garland51

That's because Sony had done tons of price cuts on the PS3 a LOT more since launch just to even stay competitive with the Xbox 360 out of desperation. ;)

You can make all the excuses you wish. It makes no difference to me. Bottomline is the PS3 is out selling the 360. Use whatever reasoning you need to help you sleep at night. ;)
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Ah but you see, the 360 isn't winning. It's simple math if you wish to know which is selling better. Take the system take the total units sold and divide it by the total month that system has been out. Now you can see the PS3 is clearly beating the 360 in sales. I love how fanboys always try to ignore that fact.cainetao11
like ignoring the fact that total sales the 360 has sold more. Or better yet, the Wii crushed both. Put in parameters and exceptions all you want. We all justify in our own way, but if talking facts lets stick to the basics, its in 3 rd place, period.

Doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is out selling the 360. Sorry you seem to have such a time with simple math even when it is explained to you like I explained it.
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Ah but you see, the 360 isn't winning. It's simple math if you wish to know which is selling better. Take the system take the total units sold and divide it by the total month that system has been out. Now you can see the PS3 is clearly beating the 360 in sales. I love how fanboys always try to ignore that fact.AmazonTreeBoa
like ignoring the fact that total sales the 360 has sold more. Or better yet, the Wii crushed both. Put in parameters and exceptions all you want. We all justify in our own way, but if talking facts lets stick to the basics, its in 3 rd place, period.

Doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is out selling the 360. Sorry you seem to have such a time with simple math even when it is explained to you like I explained it.

why use math when there is a simpler solution? Look at total number sold. No math or explanations needed. Sorry you need to play the well if we do it this way game, my favorite is winning fellas. I own one. Its a great console, but it's in third place, period.
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Microsoft hits a lot of different demographics with the Xbox. Sony markets towards the core gamer and no one else really. Voice control is a neat little gimmick that will sell a lot of Kinects, but using a controller to navigate is faster than trying to talk like a robot.

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You can make all the excuses you wish. It makes no difference to me. Bottomline is the PS3 is out selling the 360. Use whatever reasoning you need to help you sleep at night. ;)AmazonTreeBoa
Wait what?

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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="cainetao11"] like ignoring the fact that total sales the 360 has sold more. Or better yet, the Wii crushed both. Put in parameters and exceptions all you want. We all justify in our own way, but if talking facts lets stick to the basics, its in 3 rd place, period.

Doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is out selling the 360. Sorry you seem to have such a time with simple math even when it is explained to you like I explained it.

why use math when there is a simpler solution? Look at total number sold. No math or explanations needed. Sorry you need to play the well if we do it this way game, my favorite is winning fellas. I own one. Its a great console, but it's in third place, period.

Again, twist it however you need to so you can sleep at night. And for the record, I am a hermit. I just don't live in denial. I look at the numbers. You should as well. You won't look so stupid with your next response. But i hope you don't look so your next response is just as ignorant as your last. If both system had released at the same time, your total numbers theory would work. Bit seeing they weren't, your theory is flawed. Sorry, bit I don't twist it to make it work in my favor. I just look at the facts and except them for what they are. My system of choice is the clear winner (PC), so i have nothing to be in denial about. I just look at the numbers and except them. Sad that you can't and in turn feel the need to twist it to make yourself feel better. That I find amusing.
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] Doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is out selling the 360. Sorry you seem to have such a time with simple math even when it is explained to you like I explained it.

why use math when there is a simpler solution? Look at total number sold. No math or explanations needed. Sorry you need to play the well if we do it this way game, my favorite is winning fellas. I own one. Its a great console, but it's in third place, period.

Again, twist it however you need to so you can sleep at night. And for the record, I am a hermit. I just don't live in denial. I look at the numbers. You should as well. You won't look so stupid with your next response. But i hope you don't look so your next response is just as ignorant as your last. If both system had released at the same time, your total numbers theory would work. Bit seeing they weren't, your theory is flawed. Sorry, bit I don't twist it to make it work in my favor. I just look at the facts and except them for what they are. My system of choice is the clear winner (PC), so i have nothing to be in denial about. I just look at the numbers and except them. Sad that you can't and in turn feel the need to twist it to make yourself feel better. That I find amusing.

I see my phone like to put bit instead of but.
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] Doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is out selling the 360. Sorry you seem to have such a time with simple math even when it is explained to you like I explained it.

why use math when there is a simpler solution? Look at total number sold. No math or explanations needed. Sorry you need to play the well if we do it this way game, my favorite is winning fellas. I own one. Its a great console, but it's in third place, period.

Again, twist it however you need to so you can sleep at night. And for the record, I am a hermit. I just don't live in denial. I look at the numbers. You should as well. You won't look so stupid with your next response. But i hope you don't look so your next response is just as ignorant as your last. If both system had released at the same time, your total numbers theory would work. Bit seeing they weren't, your theory is flawed. Sorry, bit I don't twist it to make it work in my favor. I just look at the facts and except them for what they are. My system of choice is the clear winner (PC), so i have nothing to be in denial about. I just look at the numbers and except them. Sad that you can't and in turn feel the need to twist it to make yourself feel better. That I find amusing.

the irony is hilarious!
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] You can make all the excuses you wish. It makes no difference to me. Bottomline is the PS3 is out selling the 360. Use whatever reasoning you need to help you sleep at night. ;)Will47

Wait what?

What part went over your head?

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Actually, you have a point. PS3 came out a year after 360 and has sold almost the same amount. Blame in on Japan, still the American market prefers the 360.
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The reason Pet Rocks sold well in NA is also the reason the 360 sells so well there.
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#43 soulitane
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The reason Pet Rocks sold well in NA is also the reason the 360 sells so well there.kuraimen
Because they're so damn awesome? :o
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]The reason Pet Rocks sold well in NA is also the reason the 360 sells so well there.soulitane
Because they're so damn awesome? :o

Awesomely pointless yes.
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#45 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]The reason Pet Rocks sold well in NA is also the reason the 360 sells so well there.kuraimen
Because they're so damn awesome? :o

Awesomely pointless yes.

I don't think you've experienced the impeccable company that is a pet rock :x
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Because they're so damn awesome? :o

Awesomely pointless yes.

I don't think you've experienced the impeccable company that is a pet rock :x

I have, I found one lying on my backyard and it came for free.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Awesomely pointless yes.

I don't think you've experienced the impeccable company that is a pet rock :x

I have, I found one lying on my backyard and it came for free.

Ah there's your problem, paying for it makes it that much better :cool:
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="cainetao11"] like ignoring the fact that total sales the 360 has sold more. Or better yet, the Wii crushed both. Put in parameters and exceptions all you want. We all justify in our own way, but if talking facts lets stick to the basics, its in 3 rd place, period.cainetao11
Doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is out selling the 360. Sorry you seem to have such a time with simple math even when it is explained to you like I explained it.

why use math when there is a simpler solution? Look at total number sold. No math or explanations needed. Sorry you need to play the well if we do it this way game, my favorite is winning fellas. I own one. Its a great console, but it's in third place, period.

That's simply not the way it works, either in business or in common sense. It makes no sense to compare total sales of two products that have had different lifespans, as that is just O'Reilly style spin to try to drive an agenda.

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#50 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="soulitane"]I don't think you've experienced the impeccable company that is a pet rock :x soulitane
I have, I found one lying on my backyard and it came for free.

Ah there's your problem, paying for it makes it that much better :cool:

I have some unicorn poo to sell you for only $500 :cool: