Is the 3DS dead on arrival?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]3DS has an instant "wait..wait...wait...is this the right angle?" effect. dzimm

This is as good as admitting that you've never even seen the 3DS in person. :roll:

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

EdenProxy

About time someone said it

[QUOTE="trugs26"]

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

I will challenge you again to provide regional numbers for other system launches and prove your assertion that the 3DS regional sales "suck".

Or you can ignore this challenge like you did last time and implicitly concede that you're full of crap. :)

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]3.6 is world wide numbers. The ones people use when the regional numbers suck. trugs26

I will challenge you again to provide regional numbers for other system launches and prove your assertion that the 3DS regional sales "suck".

Or you can ignore this challenge like you did last time and implicitly concede that you're full of crap. :)

Pretty much, though I see he's trying to save his bacon with hypothetical numbers. Yeah, like that's convincing. :lol:

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]3DS has an instant "wait..wait...wait...is this the right angle?" effect. Bread_or_Decide

This is as good as admitting that you've never even seen the 3DS in person. :roll:

"A few minutes with each game". In other words, you never really gave it a chance. Confirmation bias perhaps?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="dzimm"]

This is as good as admitting that you've never even seen the 3DS in person. :roll:

dzimm

"A few minutes with each game". In other words, you never really gave it a chance. Confirmation bias perhaps?

I played it and that's my impression.Bread_or_Decide

Your mind was made up before you even played it. Most people who are open-minded and willing to give it a chance walk away very impressed.

Unlike you I have no allegiance to dead electronic devices. I played it and that's my impression. I don't need to make love to the damn thing do I? Bread_or_Decide

You played a few minutes of it.

It's hardly enough to judge a game by playing it for a few minutes, let alone the entire device/hardware.

Like, I don't judge an entire movie by watching two minutes of it, so why would you for any kind of game or platform :?

Doesn't make sense to me

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I played it and that's my impression.dzimm

Your mind was made up before you even played it. Most people who are open-minded and willing to give it a chance walk away very impressed.

No?

More than 3 million units sold is more than many games sell.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Unlike you I have no allegiance to dead electronic devices. I played it and that's my impression. I don't need to make love to the damn thing do I? Haziqonfire

You played a few minutes of it.

It's hardly enough to judge a game by playing it for a few minutes, let alone the entire device/hardware.

Like, I don't judge an entire movie by watching two minutes of it, so why would you for any kind of game or platform :?

Doesn't make sense to me

News flash the average consumer doesn't have the patience to play for hours just to enjoy something. Especially new tech.

Maybe Nintendo should change their advertisements and say, "Nintendo 3DS...after a few hours you'll be impressed!"

The only thing the 3DS was missing at launch was that one must have title that everyone can get behind. Super Street Fighter isn't exactly a game for everyone. They needed a Super Mario or (IMO) Mario Kart title or something along those lines. The great games are coming and I certaintly can't fault anyone for waiting.

I'm loving my 3ds but I am waiting for the true must have titles to launch. The 3d effect is cool and I always play with it on. The only time it's a problem is during the games that require motion, then it's 2D for me. I'm hoping the sales do pick up soon because if they don't approve by much we may have trouble getting some good 3rd party support.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Unlike you I have no allegiance to dead electronic devices. I played it and that's my impression. I don't need to make love to the damn thing do I? Bread_or_Decide

You played a few minutes of it.

It's hardly enough to judge a game by playing it for a few minutes, let alone the entire device/hardware.

Like, I don't judge an entire movie by watching two minutes of it, so why would you for any kind of game or platform :?

Doesn't make sense to me

News flash the average consumer doesn't have the patience to play for hours just to enjoy something. Especially new tech.

Maybe Nintendo should change their advertisements and say, "Nintendo 3DS...after a few hours you'll be impressed!"

By that logic you must be a "pick up and play" gamer. If I used that same logic, and played Pilotwings for a few minutes, I'd say the game wasn't that great.

excuse me but , people will know when ds is off the market, period there isnt any more nintendo made games coming to ds by the way so ,they will know pretty soon if they havent turned on their tv theyll walk into walmart or gamestop and ask for new ds games theyll say oh im sorry 3ds is the new handheld ds is phased out or something like that

It has sold almost 4 millions with just a few decent games, can you imagine when the strong titles arrive, hell, can you imagine when Pokemon 3DS arrives, nah, not at all, the 3DS is not dead, nor is the next Virtual Boy like some guys were claiming.

It has sold almost 4 millions with just a few decent games, can you imagine when the strong titles arrive, hell, can you imagine when Pokemon 3DS arrives, nah, not at all, the 3DS is not dead, nor is the next Virtual Boy like some guys were claiming.

madsnakehhh

So dead that it's almost sold out in every store.

SpinoRaptor24

Every store where??? Man please that thing aint selling all the press releases are lying?? Get outta here lol.

Like, I don't judge an entire movie by watching two minutes of it, so why would you for any kind of game or platform :?Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

You played a few minutes of it.

It's hardly enough to judge a game by playing it for a few minutes, let alone the entire device/hardware.

Like, I don't judge an entire movie by watching two minutes of it, so why would you for any kind of game or platform :?

Doesn't make sense to me

Heirren

News flash the average consumer doesn't have the patience to play for hours just to enjoy something. Especially new tech.

Maybe Nintendo should change their advertisements and say, "Nintendo 3DS...after a few hours you'll be impressed!"

By that logic you must be a "pick up and play" gamer. If I used that same logic, and played Pilotwings for a few minutes, I'd say the game wasn't that great.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Like, I don't judge an entire movie by watching two minutes of it, so why would you for any kind of game or platform :?foxhound_fox

Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Many games and consoles are very impressive on a first play. I didn't have to play 8 hours of Gears of War to realize it would be awesome. Yes a few minutes is enough to know. Games are not the same as movies btw. Doesn't cost me 300 dollars to watch a movie.

News flash the average consumer doesn't have the patience to play for hours just to enjoy something. Especially new tech.

Maybe Nintendo should change their advertisements and say, "Nintendo 3DS...after a few hours you'll be impressed!"

Bread_or_Decide

By that logic you must be a "pick up and play" gamer. If I used that same logic, and played Pilotwings for a few minutes, I'd say the game wasn't that great.

Well you said that a few minutes with a game is all you need to know if it's worth playing. While this may be true under some circumstances, it doesn't hold true to every genre. Pilotwings is actually the perfect example. It starts out very slow and easy. For people like you and myself, this may be a turn off, but we must understand that this is a game console made for EVERYONE. People without much game experience have to be weaned into the experience--a learning curve. After that period is over, the game improves, ten fold.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

By that logic you must be a "pick up and play" gamer. If I used that same logic, and played Pilotwings for a few minutes, I'd say the game wasn't that great.

Heirren

Well you said that a few minutes with a game is all you need to know if it's worth playing. While this may be true under some circumstances, it doesn't hold true to every genre. Pilotwings is actually the perfect example. It starts out very slow and easy. For people like you and myself, this may be a turn off, but we must understand that this is a game console made for EVERYONE. People without much game experience have to be weaned into the experience--a learning curve. After that period is over, the game improves, ten fold.

It didn't have a very good launch. If you want to call that "dead on arrival", be my guest.Cherokee_Jack

The 3DS is nowhere near dead on arrival; I know it may seem hard to remember but think back to the release of the DS and PSP, graphically, controlwise, featurewise, and gamewise the DS looked inferior in every aspect compared to the PSP. The DS only had maybe two or three worthwhile games at launch, one of which being a remake of Super Mario 64; yet in the end the DS is praised for its fantastic games from first party, second party and third party developers. I have a feeling something similar will happen between the 3DS and PSP2/NGP.

Currently the biggest complaint about the 3DS is the battery life, but think about this, how long could the PSP2's battery life bee when it has a larger screen, a touch screen and touch sensor on the back, 3G, and a supposed quad-core processor? Yeah battery life will, unfortunately, be abyssmal for both devices this generation. The second complaint I'm hearing against the 3DS is the price point, here again look at what the PSP2 is packing, it will be atleast $50 to $100 more than the 3DS. Don't get me wrong, the PSP2 looks to be a phenominal handheld, and quite honsetly I'm at this point far more interested in both the 3DS and PSP2 than I am in what Microsoft and Sony have to offer for their current and next generation home consoles.

2 hour battery life, big and clunky, bad games so far, inevitable "slim" version next year making yours obsoleteDecrate

I think you're confused. The thread is about the 3DS, not the NGP. 8)

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I played it and that's my impression.Bread_or_Decide

Your mind was made up before you even played it. Most people who are open-minded and willing to give it a chance walk away very impressed.

Oh, you're just mad because I called you out for your regional sales nonsense.

Hey, 3.6 million people can't be wrong. ;)

The 3DS is nowhere near dead on arrival; I know it may seem hard to remember but think back to the release of the DS and PSP, graphically, controlwise, featurewise, and gamewise the DS looked inferior in every aspect compared to the PSP. The DS only had maybe two or three worthwhile games at launch, one of which being a remake of Super Mario 64; yet in the end the DS is praised for its fantastic games from first party, second party and third party developers. I have a feeling something similar will happen between the 3DS and PSP2/NGP.

Currently the biggest complaint about the 3DS is the battery life, but think about this, how long could the PSP2's battery life bee when it has a larger screen, a touch screen and touch sensor on the back, 3G, and a supposed quad-core processor? Yeah battery life will, unfortunately, be abyssmal for both devices this generation. The second complaint I'm hearing against the 3DS is the price point, here again look at what the PSP2 is packing, it will be atleast $50 to $100 more than the 3DS. Don't get me wrong, the PSP2 looks to be a phenominal handheld, and quite honsetly I'm at this point far more interested in both the 3DS and PSP2 than I am in what Microsoft and Sony have to offer for their current and next generation home consoles.

DarkGamer007

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

Decrate

1. Yep I agree the battery is the only problem that I see, but it aint 2 hours, more like 3.

2. big and clunky? well thats up to the individual.

3. bad games? well duh, its barely out on the market. every system has craptastic games during that time.

4. c'mon every single system gets an inevitable "slim" version.

But yeah I never buy launch systems because theres virtually no games. So I wait intill they start pouring.

I remember when people were saying the PS3 was dead on arrival because it had no games and now look at it.

[QUOTE="Decrate"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

Deadbeatcobra

1. Yep I agree the battery is the only problem that I see, but it aint 2 hours, more like 3.

2. big and clunky? well thats up to the individual.

3. bad games? well duh, its barely out on the market. every system has craptastic games during that time.

4. c'mon every single system gets an inevitable "slim" version.

But yeah I never buy launch systems because theres virtually no games. So I wait intill they start pouring.

I don't really see how Nintendo could really make the system any smaller as its already the same size and design as the DSi, I could see them releasing a version of the 3DS with a better battery or larger screen like the DSi XL however I doubt that will happen anytime soon, as the DS Lite did not release until two years after the DS.

I wouldn't say so, many of the announced games look great or are in series that I trust to be great.

I don't really see how Nintendo could really make the system any smaller as its already the same size and design as the DSi, I could see them releasing a version of the 3DS with a better battery or larger screen like the DSi XL however I doubt that will happen anytime soon, as the DS Lite did not release until two years after the DS.DarkGamer007

The battery seems pretty bad. Worse than any one problem with the model 1 DS. I expect a revision by late 2012.Cherokee_Jack

The battery is probably one of the only things I can see being changed.

I will get one probably once they make a revision with a better battery.

I still have a lot of DS games to finish.

I beat 999 but I haven't got the true ending yet.....

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] The battery seems pretty bad. Worse than any one problem with the model 1 DS. I expect a revision by late 2012.BanMido76

The battery is probably one of the only things I can see being changed.

I will get one probably once they make a revision with a better battery.

I still have a lot of DS games to finish.

I beat 999 but I haven't got the true ending yet.....

It will be fine as long as good games come out for it.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Like, I don't judge an entire movie by watching two minutes of it, so why would you for any kind of game or platform :?foxhound_fox

I just personally believe in watching the full movie, playing the entire game, before I judge it.

A game can be completely awesome until a certain point. That's exactly how I felt about Twilight Princess and I ultimately ended up not enjoying the game because of the last few bits.

Nintendo can be critized, but I just think different when I'm involved in playing games or watching movies. I won't just stop watching a movie because it doesn't immediately hook me in. I wait till I've seen the entire thing. I don't review/rate games unless I've completed them (and attempted to do so 100%).

I guess I'm just different, then.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I played it and that's my impression.dzimm

Your mind was made up before you even played it. Most people who are open-minded and willing to give it a chance walk away very impressed.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

It has sold almost 4 millions with just a few decent games, can you imagine when the strong titles arrive, hell, can you imagine when Pokemon 3DS arrives, nah, not at all, the 3DS is not dead, nor is the next Virtual Boy like some guys were claiming.

Deadbeatcobra

and the 1 who expected sell outs like the nintendo wii andxbox 360

nintendo already confirmed this was planned to have ample stock onthe shelfs so they didnt run into this problem in many areas ,

i guess you didnt getthe memo and it is selling, infact it only went onsell 5 days in march and sold the 3.somthing world wide-m ,

so with that said , it is reaching 5 million pretty soon -the same amount of sales dthe original ds had 5 months in this record will most likely be broken next month!

[QUOTE="BanMido76"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] The battery seems pretty bad. Worse than any one problem with the model 1 DS. I expect a revision by late 2012.Cherokee_Jack

The battery is probably one of the only things I can see being changed.

I will get one probably once they make a revision with a better battery.

I still have a lot of DS games to finish.

I beat 999 but I haven't got the true ending yet.....

Give it up, people, there's no "3DS Lite" coming in the near future.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="BanMido76"]

The battery is probably one of the only things I can see being changed.

I will get one probably once they make a revision with a better battery.

I still have a lot of DS games to finish.

I beat 999 but I haven't got the true ending yet.....

dzimm

Give it up, people, there's no "3DS Lite" coming in the near future.

Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

JangoWuzHere

Well there will probably be good games soon for it.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Nintendo made the wii, and it was pretty awesome for about a year. Then the lack of good software started to settle in and it turned into junk as most would agree.

The 3DS is here, and the previews for it looked amazing. However, now that its here, it has maybe one or two decent titles for it. The 3DS just feels like it was rushed. I looked up the release schedule for the thing and its not getting anything good for about a month. This is going to be a system that all the casuals will buy, but never dive deep into the software line up. Selling truck loads of software is much more profitable then selling a ton of 3DSs.

turtlethetaffer

Well there will probably be good games soon for it.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I question why anybody got one this early but its going to own within a year.Haziqonfire

Games. I got it right away because I wanted an upgrade. I wanted Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition and Pilotwings Resort. Though, a lot of people bought it now as an investment for games in the upcoming months.

In May Dead or Alive: Dimensions and BlazBlue: Contiuum Shift II release and in June there is OoT3D, Cave Story 3D, Devil Survivor Overclocked and Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D.

It might be different for you, but I have never played OoT in its entirety, ever. I've only played it for a few hours. I have never played Cave Story, Devil Survivor or BlazBlue. So, most of these are like new releases to me. I'm fairly excited, but I'd understand why others wouldn't be.