Is the PC considered a Console?

In recent light alot has been thrown around how the PC IS NOT A Console. I for one think it is, it does what the console do and then some. So SW do you conisder the PC part of the gaming community or not?

Hmm it plays games so yes.

Edit after your edit: No, it's not a console.

Yes. If anyone's delusional enough to deny it, then they're on my "shut-ears" list.

Yes, it is most definitely a gaming platform... It does play games afterall...-GeordiLaForge-

Its not a console but it is a gaming platform. As in developers use it as a platform to release games. DS and PSP aren't consoles but they're game platforms, same goes for PC.

Its not a console but it is a gaming platform. As in developers use it as a platform to release games. DS and PSP aren't consoles but they're game platforms, same goes for PC.

Tiefster

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]

Its not a console but it is a gaming platform. As in developers use it as a platform to release games. DS and PSP aren't consoles but they're game platforms, same goes for PC.

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]

Its not a console but it is a gaming platform. As in developers use it as a platform to release games. DS and PSP aren't consoles but they're game platforms, same goes for PC.

Tiefster

Does it play games of roughly comparable styles as consoles? Yes it does. Why shouldn't it count?

Exclusive- Given to only one individual or group etc

Group- A number of individuals or things considered together because of similarities

You all can decide for youself as I don't really care, but technically you could say something was exclusive to x amount ofsystems.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]Hahaha I'm starting to get that more and more, maybe I'll switch back, Miyavi is pretty big but Dexter seems to be the crowd favorite.Tiefster

What are you asking? Of coarse its a platform but when I come in this thread I see the question is if its a console or not. Confusing question

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]Yes, it is most definitely a gaming platform... It does play games afterall...Animal-Mother

PC is not a console, its a system! A console is made specifically to play games, we all know that. The PC on the other hand has other uses.

Its not a console but it is a gaming platform. As in developers use it as a platform to release games. DS and PSP aren't consoles but they're game platforms, same goes for PC.

Tiefster

I consider the PC a platform, not a console per se.
But I understand your intentions, so I voted yes.

In recent light alot has been thrown around how the PC IS NOT A Console. I for one think it is, it does what the console do and then some. So SW do you conisder the PC part of the gaming community or not?

Animal-Mother

In recent light alot has been thrown around how the PC IS NOT A Console. I for one think it is, it does what the console do and then some. So SW do you conisder the PC part of the gaming community or not?

It's a viable gaming system. Not a console.IronBass

No, it's not a console, hence the name system wars. Therefore it's a platform, or system, whichever you prefer to call it.

Yes. If anyone's delusional enough to deny it, then they're on my "shut-ears" list.

aliblabla2007

People who say yes probably have difficulty distinguishing between having gaming capabilities and console systems. Consoles don't own the copyright on gaming, something doesn't become a console just because it can play games.

Consoles are closed platforms owned entirely by a specific company, PC is a open platform that any company can profit from. PC's are upgradable, consoles are fixed hardware. Consoles are dedicated gaming and more recently multimedia entertainment devices, PC's are none specialized and perform a wide range of tasks from gaming to running businesses.

PC isn't anything like a console.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]It's a viable gaming system. Not a console.stike22

People who say yes probably have difficulty distinguishing between having gaming capabilities and console systems. Consoles don't own the copyright on gaming, something doesn't become a console just because it can play games.

Consoles are closed platforms owned entirely by a specific company, PC is a open platform that any company can profit from. PC's are upgradable, consoles are fixed hardware. Consoles are dedicated gaming and more recently multimedia entertainment devices, PC's are none specialized and perform a wide range of tasks from gaming to running businesses.

PC isn't anything like a console.

PC has an option for a specialised device i.e. GPU.ronvalencia

This specialised device can be used for more than just gaming, but that's besides the point; PC itself is a none specialised platform.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]PC has an option for a specialised device i.e. GPU.AnnoyedDragon

This specialised device can be used for more than just gaming, but that's besides the point; PC itself is a none specialised platform.

Practical GpGPU applications such as Badaboom H264 encoder is a recent development. NVIDIA's and ATI's still focuses on game's FPS benchmarks in thier marketing materials.ronvalencia

Actually they recently flooded YouTube with a variety of videos showing off GPU acceleted Adobe programs, GPU acceleration for tasks such as video playback has also been available since 2006.

But all that is besides the point, having a specialized component doesn't change that PC isn't a specialised platform.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Practical GpGPU applications such as Badaboom H264 encoder is a recent development. NVIDIA's and ATI's still focuses on game's FPS benchmarks in thier marketing materials.AnnoyedDragon

Actually they recently flooded YouTube with a variety of videos showing off GPU acceleted Adobe programs, GPU acceleration for tasks such as video playback has also been available since 2006.

But all that is besides the point, having a specialized component doesn't change that PC isn't a specialised platform.

Notice the word "practical" i.e. note the release date NVIDIA's CUDA 2.x and Adobe product (that supports GPUs) release (non-demo or beta)dates. The wellknown CUDA 2.0 application is the PhysX middleware(mainly used in games).

The first CUDA capable GPU was release in Nov 2006 i.e. Geforce 8800 GTX(CUDA device 1.0). One of the first laptop with Geforce 8600M GT (CUDA 1.1 device) was ASUS G1S-A1 (the other was Apple MacBook Pro) was built in May 2007 i.e. I got the A2 stepping. I bought my G1S in June 2007(before the end of the financial period). PS; In March 2009 my A2 stepping8600M GT suffered "black of screen death" and was replaced with 2008 G1Sn mainboard.

Also note driver game optimisations on most driver releases i.e. game's FPS is king.

Refer to http://www.pcgamingalliance.org/imwp/download.asp?ContentID=15559

"The hardware revenues for PC gaming include the PCs purchased by gamers and any peripheral component upgrades done in the year 2007. At $43 Billion this dwarfs the hard-ware revenues of competing gaming platforms by two-to-one."

Adobe® Photoshop® CS4 & NVIDIA® GPUs (2009 Feb). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOPUhwYJHdQ&feature=channel_page

Notice the word "practical" i.e. note the release date NVIDIA's CUDA 2.x and Adobe product (that supports GPUs) release (non-demo or beta)dates. The wellknownCUDA 2.0 application is the PhysX middleware(mainly used ingames).

Also note driver game optimisations on most driver releases i.e. game's FPS is king.

Refer to http://www.pcgamingalliance.org/imwp/download.asp?ContentID=15559

"The hardware revenues for PC gaming include the PCs purchased by gamers and any peripheral component upgrades done in the year 2007. At $43 Billion this dwarfs the hard-ware revenues of competing gaming platforms by two-to-one."

ronvalencia

Driver numbers and dates, PC gaming revenue, what does any of this have to do with you objecting to me saying PC isn't a specialised platform? PC being used for a variety of unrelated tasks is common knowledge, it's not a specialised platform.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Notice the word "practical" i.e. note the release date NVIDIA's CUDA 2.x and Adobe product (that supports GPUs) release (non-demo or beta)dates. The wellknownCUDA 2.0 application is the PhysX middleware(mainly used ingames).

Also note driver game optimisations on most driver releases i.e. game's FPS is king.

Refer to http://www.pcgamingalliance.org/imwp/download.asp?ContentID=15559

"The hardware revenues for PC gaming include the PCs purchased by gamers and any peripheral component upgrades done in the year 2007. At $43 Billion this dwarfs the hard-ware revenues of competing gaming platforms by two-to-one."

AnnoyedDragon

Driver numbers and dates, PC gaming revenue, what does any of this have to do with you objecting to me saying PC isn't a specialised platform? PC being used for a variety of unrelated tasks is common knowledge, it's not a specialised platform.

Same arguments can be applied to PS3 i.e. official support for LinuxPPC desktop disto (performs like an Apple iMac G5 @1.6Ghz in general PowerPC desktop applications).

I stated "specialised device" not "specialised platform".

ronvalencia

Then why do you keep bringing up the GPU as if that is some sort of counter argument to PC not being specialised?

I know the GPU is a specialised component, it's just in recent years that has started to change. I don't see why having a specialised component means something isn't a general purpose platform.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

I stated "specialised device" not "specialised platform".

AnnoyedDragon

Then why do you keep bringing up the GPU as if that is some sort of counter argument to PC not being specialised?

I know the GPU is a specialised component, it's just in recent years that has started to change. I don't see why having a specialised component means something isn't a general purpose platform.

A PC can survived without NV and ATI GPUs.

Let's look at baseline GPUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a892couyO0M

NVIDIA Geforce 9400 IGP vs Intel IGP focuses on gaming performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50FZmffmtqg

AMD Radeon HD 3200 IGP vs Intel IGP focuses on gaming performance.

My laptop is an ASUS G1S i.e. offically marketed as 15.4 inch gaming laptop (2007 era).

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/graphics.html

"With faster performance and higher frame rates for graphically demanding 3D games like Quake, Call of Duty, and Spore, MacBook Pro plays like a console - an extremely portable one" - Apple.

Yes it is. It plays games.

A PC can survived without NV and ATI GPUs.

Let's look at baseline GPUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a892couyO0M

NVIDIA Geforce 9400 IGP vs Intel IGP focuses on gaming performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50FZmffmtqg

AMD Radeon HD 3200 IGP vs Intel IGP focuses on gaming performance.

ronvalencia

Let me put it bluntly, what is your point?

Absolutely not.

Absolutely not.

Aljosa23