Is the PC really the best gaming system?

If all you want to play is RTS and MMO games, then yes. Every other genre can be found on consoles.

Haiyama

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]That's purely subjective, I like playing the odd game on my PC but it doesn't compare to my PS3 and it's exclusives.Grey_Eyed_Elf

No .

Consoles are meant for gaming , PC are meant for work .

indzman

So if I build a high-end rig (say i7, GTX 580, 6gb DDR3, etc, etc) and use it for solely gaming, then i'm not allowed and must use it only for work. Well that's just crazy. Also, look at all those crazy devs developing games for the platform. That's nuts.

It's an open system that can be used for a single thing, or for a multitude of things.

If all you want to play is RTS and MMO games, then yes. Every other genre can be found on consoles.

Haiyama

Since console gamers need to pit all consoles systems against the PC as a gaming system, then yeah. If one system is good enough to take on multiple systems then its clearly better than any of the multiple systems its taking on if it was taking them on singularly.

When consolites do this its like they are unwitingly admiting it themselves that no 1 console system is better than the PC. So there you have it, ask a consolite the next time he makes a "consoles are better than PC because they have all these console exclusive games" thread. ( Even though the coneolse are missing out on even more exclusives that the PC has )

Since console gamers need to pit all consoles systems against the PC as a gaming system, then yeah. If one system is good enough to take on multiple systems then its clearly better than any of the multiple systems its taking on if it was taking them on singularly.

pelvist

But then again you can upgrade the PC while consoles are closed systems. I think it's kinda unfair to compare a new gaming PC to a five years old console. Obviously modern PCs will be much stronger.

What you don't see much, though, is comparing five years old PCs to five years old consoles.

Would those old PCs run new games as well as the consoles do?

By objective criteria PC is the best system. It offers the best graphics and most control options. Most of all, it has 30+ years worth of games, which dwarfs any console.

That said, objective criterias will always loose agaisnt personal tastes when it comes to entertainment. So ultimately the best gaming system is alway the one that has the most games you like.

Dark souls is my best game of all time and is not on PC, only on xbox 360 and PS3

Witcher 2 though is on xbox 360

Also Lost Odyssey and Fable games are some of my favourite too, again only on xbox 360

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Oh look, another PC-bashing thread from nameless.nameless12345

Let's hope it's my last, eh? :P

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

Since console gamers need to pit all consoles systems against the PC as a gaming system, then yeah. If one system is good enough to take on multiple systems then its clearly better than any of the multiple systems its taking on if it was taking them on singularly.

nameless12345

But then again you can upgrade the PC while consoles are closed systems. I think it's kinda unfair to compare a new gaming PC to a five years old console. Obviously modern PCs will be much stronger.

What you don't see much, though, is comparing five years old PCs to five years old consoles.

Would those old PCs run new games as well as the consoles do?

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

Since console gamers need to pit all consoles systems against the PC as a gaming system, then yeah. If one system is good enough to take on multiple systems then its clearly better than any of the multiple systems its taking on if it was taking them on singularly.

nameless12345

But then again you can upgrade the PC while consoles are closed systems. I think it's kinda unfair to compare a new gaming PC to a five years old console. Obviously modern PCs will be much stronger.

What you don't see much, though, is comparing five years old PCs to five years old consoles.

Would those old PCs run new games as well as the consoles do?

Dark souls is my best game of all time and is not on PC, only on xbox 360 and PS3

Witcher 2 though is on xbox 360

Also Lost Odyssey and Fable games are some of my favourite too, again only on xbox 360

Dark souls is my best game of all time and is not on PC, only on xbox 360 and PS3

Witcher 2 though is on xbox 360

Also Lost Odyssey and Fable games are some of my favourite too, again only on xbox 360

loosingENDS

To be honest I don't even think of it as a game system.

To be honest I don't even think of it as a game system.

Heirren

Yes they are, and that's a fact whether consolites want to admit it or not. millerlight89

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

To be honest I don't even think of it as a game system.

starjet905

I don't mean that in a negative way. I feel that the PC format is separate from the console format--they never really compete in retail stores.

I don't mean that in a negative way. I feel that the PC format is separate from the console format--they never really compete in retail stores.

Heirren

PC games don't get much shelf space in gaming stores because they are bad for business. A PC game is only one sale whereas a console game will be sold many times over as each buyer trades in that copy. There are still some PC games that can be re-used but they are increasingly rare and PC gamers are far less likely to trade in their games in the first place, so the big chains don't bother accepting them.

General-purpose electronics and department stores don't deal in used games, meaning PC games are equally profitable for them, so you'll find a lot more PC games there--especially outside the US; for instance here in New Zealand my local Dick Smith Electronics has devoted more shelf space to PC games than to any of the consoles (and this is not counting the equally sizeable space for non-game PC software).

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Yes they are, and that's a fact whether consolites want to admit it or not. drinkerofjuice

I think so.

• Internet browsing (walkthrough's, mods on the fly) while playing.
• Mods that add quality content, tweaks or even whole games, enhancing the lifespan of XX game.
• Innovative new games in the indie scene such as Minecraft.
• Gaming compatability from decades ago.
• All kinds of interesting simulators.
• Better graphics.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't mean that in a negative way. I feel that the PC format is separate from the console format--they never really compete in retail stores.

garrett_daniels

PC games don't get much shelf space in gaming stores because they are bad for business. A PC game is only one sale whereas a console game will be sold many times over as each buyer trades in that copy. There are still some PC games that can be re-used but they are increasingly rare and PC gamers are far less likely to trade in their games in the first place, so the big chains don't bother accepting them.

General-purpose electronics and department stores don't deal in used games, meaning PC games are equally profitable for them, so you'll find a lot more PC games there--especially outside the US; for instance here in New Zealand my local Dick Smith Electronics has devoted more shelf space to PC games than to any of the consoles (and this is not counting the equally sizeable space for non-game PC software).

I'm just pointing out the fact that, at least in the US, PC games are generally separated from console games. I will say that the shelf space is admirable--about 30% less than ps3/360, at a local best buy, but they are in a completely different section. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the aisle tag is even labelled "pc software" and not "games." There's a fine line there and it is apparent that consoles/pcs don't compete for the same market. If they did they'd be advertised differently.

I think so.

• Internet browsing (walkthrough's, mods on the fly) while playing.
• Mods that add quality content, tweaks or even whole games, enhancing the lifespan of XX game.
• Innovative new games in the indie scene such as Minecraft.
• Gaming compatability from decades ago.
• All kinds of interesting simulators.
• Better graphics.

cyborg100000

I can look up gamefaqs on my ipod or laptop while playing, and not even have to alt-tab...

I spend my "gaming" time actually gaming, not sifting through a mountain of garbage mods for the few good ones, and then spend less time playing it then I did installing, trying, and deleting the bad ones...

Console games and PSN/Arcade games never have innovation.

My PS3 plays games from the 90s, and does it with less compatibility issues than PC.

If simulators are your thing, cool. Consoles have all kinds of games that PC doesn't as well.

Better graphics is dependent on spending more money on hardware. A $400-600 pc from 2005-6 won't play 2011 games at better graphics/performance than a $400-600 console from 2005-6, now will a $200-250 pc from 2011 play modern games better than a $200-250 console.

There's nothing wrong with preferring pc... and there's nothing wrong with preferring consoles. As an individual system, PC has more games on the spreadsheet than any other individual system, but that doesn't mean all pcs can play all of them, or even get remotely the same experience out of them as other pcs, like consoles do. Some pcs might be the best gaming system, but all of them certainly aren't... so whether pc is better is largely a matter of whether you feel the extra graphics are worth paying more for. Personally, I don't. If I was going to pay that kind of money, I'd just buy all the consoles, which would offer more, according to the spreadsheet, than pc anyway.

[QUOTE="garrett_daniels"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't mean that in a negative way. I feel that the PC format is separate from the console format--they never really compete in retail stores.

PC games don't get much shelf space in gaming stores because they are bad for business. A PC game is only one sale whereas a console game will be sold many times over as each buyer trades in that copy. There are still some PC games that can be re-used but they are increasingly rare and PC gamers are far less likely to trade in their games in the first place, so the big chains don't bother accepting them.

General-purpose electronics and department stores don't deal in used games, meaning PC games are equally profitable for them, so you'll find a lot more PC games there--especially outside the US; for instance here in New Zealand my local Dick Smith Electronics has devoted more shelf space to PC games than to any of the consoles (and this is not counting the equally sizeable space for non-game PC software).

I'm just pointing out the fact that, at least in the US, PC games are generally separated from console games. I will say that the shelf space is admirable--about 30% less than ps3/360, at a local best buy, but they are in a completely different section. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the aisle tag is even labelled "pc software" and not "games." There's a fine line there and it is apparent that consoles/pcs don't compete for the same market. If they did they'd be advertised differently.

[QUOTE="cyborg100000"]

I think so.

• Internet browsing (walkthrough's, mods on the fly) while playing.
• Mods that add quality content, tweaks or even whole games, enhancing the lifespan of XX game.
• Innovative new games in the indie scene such as Minecraft.
• Gaming compatability from decades ago.
• All kinds of interesting simulators.
• Better graphics.

ianuilliam

I can look up gamefaqs on my ipod or laptop while playing, and not even have to alt-tab...

I spend my "gaming" time actually gaming, not sifting through a mountain of garbage mods for the few good ones, and then spend less time playing it then I did installing, trying, and deleting the bad ones...

At least you get that option on PC and you can just play the games the way they are made too, but if you want to make a game better at least you have the option too

Console games and PSN/Arcade games never have innovation.

Just not as many

My PS3 plays games from the 90s, and does it with less compatibility issues than PC.

Only select few that they have to redo those game to make it work and 90% you have to rebuy at least on Pc in 5 minutes you can make any DOS game work.

If simulators are your thing, cool. Consoles have all kinds of games that PC doesn't as well.

Like what? Some JRPG's and some exclusives.... Pc has all kinds of games consoles dont have as well

Better graphics is dependent on spending more money on hardware. A $400-600 pc from 2005-6 won't play 2011 games at better graphics/performance than a $400-600 console from 2005-6, now will a $200-250 pc from 2011 play modern games better than a $200-250 console.

Wrong in 2005 there was the 7800GTX which is faster then ether console GPU and it proved that all the way into 2009 with well made Multiplatform games Then in 2006 :lol: The Geforce 8800GTX and GTS came out which is 3x faster then both consoles and they still run modern games just fine and much better graphics then consoles.So what you stated above shows you dont know what your talking about

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

I like portablility so until pc can make something like psp/vita I'm not intrested

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

My PS3 plays games from the 90s, and does it with less compatibility issues than PC.

04dcarraher

Only select few that they have to redo those game to make it work and 90% you have to rebuy at least on Pc in 5 minutes you can make any DOS game work.

Um... what? PS3s play PS1 discs, with like 99% compatibility. No rebuying. No need for the devs to "redo" the game. No having to download some other program and fiddle with it to get the game to run properly.

"So what you stated above shows you dont know what your talking about"

it's all opinionated,most people look at pc as the best cause most people can mod. but what i look for are

graphics.consoles do bring some of the best out

gameplay

controler

story

these few things win me over on consoles being the best.but thats my opinion

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

My PS3 plays games from the 90s, and does it with less compatibility issues than PC.

ianuilliam

Only select few that they have to redo those game to make it work and 90% you have to rebuy at least on Pc in 5 minutes you can make any DOS game work.

Um... what? PS3s play PS1 discs, with like 99% compatibility. No rebuying. No need for the devs to "redo" the game. No having to download some other program and fiddle with it to get the game to run properly.

"So what you stated above shows you dont know what your talking about"

Only certain models play PS2 games , and there are plenty of people having trouble running few of their PS1 games correctly with their PS3's. All those games on PSN are redone to work correctly.... again your incorrect... that 99% compatibility claim is not true.

[QUOTE="garrett_daniels"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't mean that in a negative way. I feel that the PC format is separate from the console format--they never really compete in retail stores.

Heirren

PC games don't get much shelf space in gaming stores because they are bad for business. A PC game is only one sale whereas a console game will be sold many times over as each buyer trades in that copy. There are still some PC games that can be re-used but they are increasingly rare and PC gamers are far less likely to trade in their games in the first place, so the big chains don't bother accepting them.

General-purpose electronics and department stores don't deal in used games, meaning PC games are equally profitable for them, so you'll find a lot more PC games there--especially outside the US; for instance here in New Zealand my local Dick Smith Electronics has devoted more shelf space to PC games than to any of the consoles (and this is not counting the equally sizeable space for non-game PC software).

I'm just pointing out the fact that, at least in the US, PC games are generally separated from console games. I will say that the shelf space is admirable--about 30% less than ps3/360, at a local best buy, but they are in a completely different section. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the aisle tag is even labelled "pc software" and not "games." There's a fine line there and it is apparent that consoles/pcs don't compete for the same market. If they did they'd be advertised differently.

The local target 2 blocks from i live the PC gaming section is just as big as the consoles except a PC isn't set up for people to play demos on. Not all the games are casual (then again at least half the games in the console sections were casual too). They had all the latest PC games and some of the most popular, Crysis 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, GTA IV, Fallout, The Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Rage, Shogun 2 total War, Command and Conquer, CoD 4, The Witcher 2 Assasins of King, StarCraft 2 etc etc.

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

Since console gamers need to pit all consoles systems against the PC as a gaming system, then yeah. If one system is good enough to take on multiple systems then its clearly better than any of the multiple systems its taking on if it was taking them on singularly.

nameless12345

But then again you can upgrade the PC while consoles are closed systems. I think it's kinda unfair to compare a new gaming PC to a five years old console. Obviously modern PCs will be much stronger.

What you don't see much, though, is comparing five years old PCs to five years old consoles.

Would those old PCs run new games as well as the consoles do?

No, consoles cant be upgraded ( allthough you still have to buy Kinect to "enjoy" Kinect games ), thats a + for PC righ there then. All you did was give a reason why the PC is so awsome.

We dont have to compare 5 year old PC hardware to 5 year old console hardware the topic title asks "Is the PC really the best gaming system?" and as its the system with a bigger library of games than all consoles ever made COMBINED, a larger number of exclusive games than any console ever made, more exclusive games this gen than all 3 current consoles combined and more high rated exclusives than any current console then it clearly is the best individual platform, weather its 5 year old hardware or not.

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

mitu123

How much did your PC cost? You have SLI or Crossfirewith 2 high-end video cards?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

DJP3000

How much did your PC cost? You have SLI or Crossfirewith 2 high-end video cards?

A Phenom 2, 4gb and a GTX 460 will max Crysis out

At the very least PC is the most versatile platform available. But I'd never say it's the best.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

DJP3000

How much did your PC cost? You have SLI or Crossfirewith 2 high-end video cards?

You dont need crossfire or SLI to max that out lol.

At the very least PC is the most versatile platform available. But I'd never say it's the best.

mmmwksil

[QUOTE="DJP3000"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

Cloud567kar

How much did your PC cost? You have SLI or Crossfirewith 2 high-end video cards?

You dont need crossfire or SLI to max that out lol.

With good framerate yes

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

At the very least PC is the most versatile platform available. But I'd never say it's the best.

Arach666

Ummm... no. It isn't. :P

[QUOTE="DJP3000"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

Cloud567kar

How much did your PC cost? You have SLI or Crossfirewith 2 high-end video cards?

He said 1080pwith 16x AA. I beleive that you don't need SLI to run Crysis at 1080p with 4x AA if you have a like at least a GTX 460, but with 16x AA and maxed out at 1080p, that's different.

You dont need crossfire or SLI to max that out lol.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

At the very least PC is the most versatile platform available. But I'd never say it's the best.

mmmwksil

Ummm... no. It isn't. :P

I've noticed a strange trend. Many console games don't run at the highest resolution available, highest framerate possible, highest detail imagninable, or whatever else bonuses you want to mention. Why is it that a PC is REQUIRED to run EVERYTHING at MAX settings? Why can't it run at console settings? Why the double standard?

You can´t fool me bro,even Sakurai and Umemiya know it is! :PArach666

... did they ever mention it was the best...? :? I don't remember! :cry:

Truth is, the greatest gaming system ever is...

[spoiler] SNES or DS :o [/spoiler]

Honestly, now; for the PC to be the best, it would have to slaughter the competition in cold blood and be the only one left. So long as the others are there, it can't be the best.

It's really all in the eye of the beholder.

lundy86_4

Pretty spot on.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

DJP3000

How much did your PC cost? You have SLI or Crossfirewith 2 high-end video cards?

With good framerate yesaroxx_ab

[QUOTE="DJP3000"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I also love PC gaming more because I can play Crysis in 1080p with 16xAA, eat this console versions:

http://i53.tinypic.com/28s377o.png

04dcarraher

How much did your PC cost? You have SLI or Crossfirewith 2 high-end video cards?

A Phenom 2, 4gb and a GTX 460 will max Crysis out