Hell if anything it's impressive. It's a young black kid that was smart enough to nail a job at Sony.
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I am offended by the term african-american, not by Sony's add or adds.
Never been to Africa and never plan on going. I am an American anything else to me is an insult. If I am white and from Africa wouldn't that make me African-American?
kuu2
its most likely to do with your heritage and the fact the terms stuck that people use African American.But things like that dont exist all we got is scots,english,welsh and irish here really xD.
People who bring up trivial stuff like this are the ones looking for race, and that tells me all I need to know about them.
Chutebox
Good point. The kid in that video was just normal anyway, nothing over exaggerated about his behavior. I would think if you found this offensive, you'd be offended all the time by people you meet on a day to day basis, and that means there's something wrong with you, not them.
I don't see the problem with any companies tailoring to a specific market/group which often consequently portrays the market group in a specific way like in the case of McDonalds. If folks would open their mind to more than just race or nationality, they would notice that stereotype comes in many form in today's media. Take for example teens and how they're portrayed in the media.
racist people see racist implicationstastetheacidmilexactly every one else see the joke thats using stereotypes
"Chuch" Way to lay it down. This guy who wrote this seems really unaware and intolerant.
^ I remember that ad siddhu:lol:!
As for this article from "Techvoo", I think the author is def. ignorant. The new PSP ad campaign starring "Marcus" (who's a young, charismatic actor who only represents a portion of his generation) isn't racist or insensitive either.
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"First and foremost, why does Marcus dress like he's from an upper-cIass family yet talk like he was educated in a ghetto?"
- WTF? This comment shows that the author is truly disconnected to the current "hip-hop generation" culture. The wardrobeworn by those who live this lifestyIe is a varied one that ranges from tight jeans and t-shirts to baggy shorts holstered by belts. Yes, belts. Also sweaters and hats are worn.
- I'm black-American, listen to hip-hop (amongst other music), and was mostly raised in the suburbs. I talk with slang and I pronounce my words clearly when I want to. Sometimes, if I'm talking to a brother or close friend, you may not even understand what the hell I'm saying. I also dress according to what I think is fashionable in my eyes, not what the environment believes is appropriate.
"If not let me make my second point. Why was it so important that he speak the way he does?"
- I'll be one to point out the generalizations and outmoded caricatures of peoples in a heart-beat. But, if you're familiar with who this young actor is, that's how he talks. Also, him utilizing such a vocabulary / dialect doesn't represent all of the people his age, color, or who share his lifestyIe.
"...but I'm aggravated enough with kids on the streets talking like this. The last thing I need is one preaching to me about games in such an annoying manner."
- What's wrong with such a "manner"? I tend to like diversity, but not simply for the sake of doing so. I'll tell you this, from my experience, this new PSP ad campaign is a hit with my younger bros. They find it amusing and fun. "Haha, Marcus, PSP" is what I heard one time after the commercial ended.
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So, in ending, "Is the Portrayal of White Men (Kevin Butler) by Sony Offensive?" I think not.
Episode_Eve
People who bring up trivial stuff like this are the ones looking for race, and that tells me all I need to know about them.
Chutebox
Im with you on that. I didnt even think anything of the commercial, especially not in the way TC described
No, if he did do that, best commercial of all time :D.I wasn't aware I should be offended. It was a crappy ad, not an offensive one. He didn't pull a gun and eat fried chicken while playing his PSP did he? Man, people are really stupid sometimes.
ActicEdge
^ I remember that ad siddhu:lol:!
As for this article from "Techvoo", I think the author is def. ignorant. The new PSP ad campaign starring "Marcus" (who's a young, charismatic actor who only represents a portion of his generation) isn't racist or insensitive either.
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"First and foremost, why does Marcus dress like he's from an upper-cIass family yet talk like he was educated in a ghetto?"
- WTF? This comment shows that the author is truly disconnected to the current "hip-hop generation" culture. The wardrobeworn by those who live this lifestyIe is a varied one that ranges from tight jeans and t-shirts to baggy shorts holstered by belts. Yes, belts. Also sweaters and hats are worn.
- I'm black-American, listen to hip-hop (amongst other music), and was mostly raised in the suburbs. I talk with slang and I pronounce my words clearly when I want to. Sometimes, if I'm talking to a brother or close friend, you may not even understand what the hell I'm saying. I also dress according to what I think is fashionable in my eyes, not what the environment believes is appropriate.
"If not let me make my second point. Why was it so important that he speak the way he does?"
- I'll be one to point out the generalizations and outmoded caricatures of peoples in a heart-beat. But, if you're familiar with who this young actor is, that's how he talks. Also, him utilizing such a vocabulary / dialect doesn't represent all of the people his age, color, or who share his lifestyIe.
"...but I'm aggravated enough with kids on the streets talking like this. The last thing I need is one preaching to me about games in such an annoying manner."
- What's wrong with such a "manner"? I tend to like diversity, but not simply for the sake of doing so. I'll tell you this, from my experience, this new PSP ad campaign is a hit with my younger bros. They find it amusing and fun. "Haha, Marcus, PSP" is what I heard one time after the commercial ended.
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So, in ending, "Is the Portrayal of White Men (Kevin Butler) by Sony Offensive?" I think not.
Episode_Eve
I agree with this except i'd hardly call marcus "a young, charismatic actor"
It's pretty obvious the author is sheltered
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]No, if he did do that, best commercial of all time :D.I wasn't aware I should be offended. It was a crappy ad, not an offensive one. He didn't pull a gun and eat fried chicken while playing his PSP did he? Man, people are really stupid sometimes.
TREAL_Since
That commercial would have been epic! :lol:
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]No, if he did do that, best commercial of all time :D.It would be pretty funny, but it would garner tons of attention.:lol:I wasn't aware I should be offended. It was a crappy ad, not an offensive one. He didn't pull a gun and eat fried chicken while playing his PSP did he? Man, people are really stupid sometimes.
TREAL_Since
People who bring up trivial stuff like this are the ones looking for race, and that tells me all I need to know about them.
Chutebox
In todays society is fine to attack white ppl but the moment a non offense black boy shows up on tv to advertise a psp its offensive ?
Marcus is portrayed by the young, and arguably, charismatic actor Bobb'e J. Thompson.I agree with this except i'd hardly call marcus"a young, charismatic actor"
It's pretty obvious the author is sheltered
iBear-
This reminds me of a thread made a while ago of Nintendo being racist because Beyonce was using a black DSi in one of their ads
Marcus is portrayed by the young, and arguably, charismatic actor Bobb'e J. Thompson.[QUOTE="iBear-"]
I agree with this except i'd hardly call marcus"a young, charismatic actor"
It's pretty obvious the author is sheltered
Episode_Eve
had no idea he did that much wow
This reminds me of a thread made a while ago of Nintendo being racist because Beyonce was using a black DSi in one of their ads
Solid_Link22
LOL
People like to look for racism when there is none there
LMA:lol:. Thanks for sharing this, I've never seen it. It's so funny when he dances when the ladies are singing!Well that Marcus kid is Little Tupac.
gago-gago
Not with the ad campaign, no I don't see anything in particularly (overly) wrong with it,
BUT with the ad (billboard or whatever) for the new PSP (white), yes I do see something wrong with it. Entirely.
The use of color denoting dominance over ones race and its clearly on purpose only to gather enough attention. I can't determine if there noth females, but if they are thats an even bigger shocker. Overall, this ad has nothing to actually do with gaming first and foremost. Just like those Tom Ford advertisements that just place the product in "places".
That being said, I am black and I am an African American scholar (minor) which focus is actually on media portrayals or race and gender, so this stuff just sticks out to me only after studying it foreve and thanks to the poster. Now I have something to analyze for the new semester :)
Oh and the fact that some posters don't see anything wrong with it just kind of shocks me alittle.:?
[QUOTE="siddhu33"]This has to be fake.....this ad doesn't even make senseNot in this ad.
But in this:
Munasha
I think it might be too. We would have heard of some kind of controversy by now...
[QUOTE="siddhu33"]This has to be fake.....this ad doesn't even make sense It was when psp white came out. It symbolizes that black isnt the only one in town anymore.Not in this ad.
But in this:
Munasha
This has to be fake.....this ad doesn't even make sense[QUOTE="Munasha"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]
Not in this ad.
But in this:
TheMightyHoov
I think it might be too. We would have heard of some kind of controversy by now...
we did like 4 years agoI agree with you. While this 'White PSP' ad did not offend me personally, I definitely see why people *could* and did have a problem with it. Some one could easily interpret that the ad is suggesting 'white is superior to black'. Especially if that individual has no knowledge of what a PSP is in the first place. Remember, context is important as well. Everyone should understand that.Not with the ad campaign, no I don't see anything in particularly (overly) wrong with it,
BUT with the ad (billboard or whatever) for the new PSP (white), yes I do see something wrong with it. Entirely.
The use of color denoting dominance over ones race and its clearly on purpose only to gather enough attention. I can't determine if there noth females, but if they are thats an even bigger shocker. Overall, this ad has nothing to actually do with gaming first and foremost. Just like those Tom Ford advertisements that just place the product in "places".
That being said, I am black and I am an African American scholar (minor) which focus is actually on media portrayals or race and gender, so this stuff just sticks out to me only after studying it foreve and thanks to the poster. Now I have something to analyze for the new semester :)
Oh and the fact that some posters don't see anything wrong with it just kind of shocks me alittle.:?
hayato_
You and Episode_Eve have the best posts in this thread. Thank you.
[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]
[QUOTE="Munasha"] This has to be fake.....this ad doesn't even make senseFoliage-King
I think it might be too. We would have heard of some kind of controversy by now...
we did like 4 years agoI dont recall the controversy but ok :P
[QUOTE="hayato_"]I agree with you. While this 'White PSP' ad it did not offend me personally, I definitely see why people *could* have a problem with it. Some one could easily interpret the that the ad is suggesting 'white is superior to black'. Especially if that individual has no knowledge of what a PSP is in the first place. Remember, context is important as well. Everyone should understand that. You and Episode_Eve have the best posts in this thread. Thank you. Even with the knowledge of what the item is, it really doesn't change much. I am not offended because overall I am not a sensitive person but it is an irresponsible advertisement that has the white character trendy and dominant and the black character almost resembling the old coon characters. This is merely an ad to say, "Hey we make white PSPs too" and the message can comes across as "white is dominate over black", which even if you take away the societal implication of such a statement is still a dumb ad move for Sony because the black PSP is still their main color and the white PSP was only a temporary color so why make you major product look submissive to a temporary color change? Just poor advertising, and trust me I know, my fiance' is an advertiser.Not with the ad campaign, no I don't see anything in particularly (overly) wrong with it,
BUT with the ad (billboard or whatever) for the new PSP (white), yes I do see something wrong with it. Entirely.
The use of color denoting dominance over ones race and its clearly on purpose only to gather enough attention. I can't determine if there noth females, but if they are thats an even bigger shocker. Overall, this ad has nothing to actually do with gaming first and foremost. Just like those Tom Ford advertisements that just place the product in "places".
That being said, I am black and I am an African American scholar (minor) which focus is actually on media portrayals or race and gender, so this stuff just sticks out to me only after studying it foreve and thanks to the poster. Now I have something to analyze for the new semester :)
Oh and the fact that some posters don't see anything wrong with it just kind of shocks me alittle.:?
TREAL_Since
[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="hayato_"]I agree with you. While this 'White PSP' ad it did not offend me personally, I definitely see why people *could* have a problem with it. Some one could easily interpret the that the ad is suggesting 'white is superior to black'. Especially if that individual has no knowledge of what a PSP is in the first place. Remember, context is important as well. Everyone should understand that. You and Episode_Eve have the best posts in this thread. Thank you. Even with the knowledge of what the item is, it really doesn't change much. I am not offended because overall I am not a sensitive person but it is an irresponsible advertisement that has the white character trendy and dominant and the black character almost resembling a the old coon characters. This is merely an ad to say, "Hey we make white PSPs too" and the message can comes across as "white is dominate over black", which even if you take away the societal implication of such a statement is still a dumb ad move for Sony because the black PSP is still their main color and the white PSP was only a temporary color so why make you major product look submissive to a temporary color change? Just poor advertising, and trust me I know, my fiance' is an advertiser.Not with the ad campaign, no I don't see anything in particularly (overly) wrong with it,
BUT with the ad (billboard or whatever) for the new PSP (white), yes I do see something wrong with it. Entirely.
The use of color denoting dominance over ones race and its clearly on purpose only to gather enough attention. I can't determine if there noth females, but if they are thats an even bigger shocker. Overall, this ad has nothing to actually do with gaming first and foremost. Just like those Tom Ford advertisements that just place the product in "places".
That being said, I am black and I am an African American scholar (minor) which focus is actually on media portrayals or race and gender, so this stuff just sticks out to me only after studying it foreve and thanks to the poster. Now I have something to analyze for the new semester :)
Oh and the fact that some posters don't see anything wrong with it just kind of shocks me alittle.:?
Javy03
Agreed, a better way to do it would've been to show the Black "PSP" welcoming the White "PSP" maybe with a "come hither" jesture.
Maybe but overall that would have been too boring, lol. You could still do it by having a trendy hot looking girl standing in all black in the front of the line at a club getting pushed to the side by another hot trendy looking girl dressed in all white. That way you can approach the idea of one stealing the spotlight from the other without bashing your other more ICONIC product.Agreed, a better way to do it would've been to show the Black "PSP" welcoming the White "PSP" maybe with a "come hither" jesture.
Snugenz
Maybe but overall that would have been too boring, lol. You could still do it by having a trendy hot looking girl standing in all black in the front of the line at a club getting pushed to the side by another hot trendy looking girl dressed in all white. That way you can approach the idea of one stealing the spotlight from the other without bashing your other more ICONIC product.[QUOTE="Snugenz"]
Agreed, a better way to do it would've been to show the Black "PSP" welcoming the White "PSP" maybe with a "come hither" jesture.
Javy03
I can picture that actually and yeah that would've been alot better. :D
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