Is the PS3 really technologically superior?

I see that the multi-plat games look identical on the ps3 and 360, with the 360 having a slight edge(for being in the market longer) and games performing same on both. Why do people say ps3 is superior to the other consoles(technologically).bigevil_rashek

Because there are people that want to make themselves feel better about the console they chose to buy. The 360 and PS3 are essentially equal with the 360 having adavantages in certain areas and PS3 in others.

It is inferior to 360, because it has a last gen GPU and less ram, and only one CPU core, but it is superior to Wiisaolin323

I see that the multi-plat games look identical on the ps3 and 360, with the 360 having a slight edge(for being in the market longer) and games performing same on both. Why do people say ps3 is superior to the other consoles(technologically).bigevil_rashek

It depends on your point of view. Is a car that can go 700 mph really superior if nobody can drive it that fast and it is illegal to own? Is a Space shuttle technologically superior if it never gets to take off?

In theory the PS3 is vastly technologically superior. But if developers are determined to make games the inefficient way they have been for the last 20-30 years...then the superiority of the PS3 becomes irrelevant for the reasons you have stated. They will never take proper advantage of the hardware and so games won't show what the hardware is capable of.

PS3 is superior.

The exclusives on PS3 do the talking. Games like Unreal Tournament, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. The 3 best games out graphically on any console and exclusive to PS3.

PS3 is superior.

The exclusives on PS3 do the talking. Games like Unreal Tournament, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. The 3 best games out graphically on any console and exclusive to PS3.

EmperorSupreme

bluray is superior capacity, the built in wifi is good too.

everything else is just different when applied to games.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

PS3 is superior.

The exclusives on PS3 do the talking. Games like Unreal Tournament, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. The 3 best games out graphically on any console and exclusive to PS3.

PBSnipes

I know what you are saying, but currently there are no plans for it to come to X360. And it doesn't look like Microsoft is going to budge on mod support. And I understand why. How is MS going to charge Live users for map packs if mods offer them for free.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

PS3 is superior.

The exclusives on PS3 do the talking. Games like Unreal Tournament, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. The 3 best games out graphically on any console and exclusive to PS3.

EmperorSupreme

I know what you are saying, but currently there are no plans for it to come to X360. And it doesn't look like Microsoft is going to budge on mod support. And I understand why. How is MS going to charge Live users for map packs if mods offer them for free.

UT3 is on PC too.

I see that the multi-plat games look identical on the ps3 and 360, with the 360 having a slight edge(for being in the market longer) and games performing same on both. Why do people say ps3 is superior to the other consoles(technologically).bigevil_rashek

Because cows like to close thier eyes and think that they did the best choise!

fact - multiplats come first and look better on 360

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmlAnimal-Mother

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

PS3 is superior.

The exclusives on PS3 do the talking. Games like Unreal Tournament, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. The 3 best games out graphically on any console and exclusive to PS3.

EmperorSupreme

I know what you are saying, but currently there are no plans for it to come to X360. And it doesn't look like Microsoft is going to budge on mod support. And I understand why. How is MS going to charge Live users for map packs if mods offer them for free.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmlPBSnipes

i know, there was a more recent uptodate article from last year i could find it i'll try to though

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.htmlPBSnipes

i know, there was a more recent uptodate article from last year i could find it i'll try to though

IF your version looks worse, its lazy devs and bad ports.
If your version looks betters, its "HAHA the other console sukks"
Koba123

:D

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

PS3 is superior.

The exclusives on PS3 do the talking. Games like Unreal Tournament, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. The 3 best games out graphically on any console and exclusive to PS3.

PBSnipes

I know what you are saying, but currently there are no plans for it to come to X360. And it doesn't look like Microsoft is going to budge on mod support. And I understand why. How is MS going to charge Live users for map packs if mods offer them for free.

Yes O Rly? That is just a place holder. If MS doesn't work in mod support; X360 isn't getting Unreal Tournament. At this time there is no release date. What's really funny is by the time you get Unreal; I'll be playing Killzone and Resistance 2.

Yes O Rly? That is just a place holder. If MS doesn't work in mod support; X360 isn't getting Unreal Tournament. At this time there is no release date. What's really funny is by the time you get Unreal; I'll be playing Killzone and Resistance 2.

EmperorSupreme

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Yes O Rly? That is just a place holder. If MS doesn't work in mod support; X360 isn't getting Unreal Tournament. At this time there is no release date. What's really funny is by the time you get Unreal; I'll be playing Killzone and Resistance 2.

PBSnipes

Now this is system wars.......

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

PS3 is superior.

The exclusives on PS3 do the talking. Games like Unreal Tournament, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. The 3 best games out graphically on any console and exclusive to PS3.

EmperorSupreme

I know what you are saying, but currently there are no plans for it to come to X360. And it doesn't look like Microsoft is going to budge on mod support. And I understand why. How is MS going to charge Live users for map packs if mods offer them for free.

Yes O Rly? That is just a place holder. If MS doesn't work in mod support; X360 isn't getting Unreal Tournament. At this time there is no release date. What's really funny is by the time you get Unreal; I'll be playing Killzone and Resistance 2.

I know the PS3 can churn out an enormous number of flops. I know insiders believe the cell-type processor will be the future (servers containing them are coming out right about now costing a helluvalot of money). I know every Unix fanatic is in love with the PS3 for it's procesing power.

What I don't know is whether this will ever translate into a much better performance than the 360 in terms of games. Time will tell I guess.

i think the only thing you will see the ps 3 do better are the animations. the cell can do crazy numbers for animation. GARRYTH

what makes you think animations have anything to do with the cell? that's more to do with the art budget.

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]i think the only thing you will see the ps 3 do better are the animations. the cell can do crazy numbers for animation. Ontain

what makes you think animations have anything to do with the cell? that's more to do with the art budget.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]i think the only thing you will see the ps 3 do better are the animations. the cell can do crazy numbers for animation. GARRYTH

what makes you think animations have anything to do with the cell? that's more to do with the art budget.

do you think animation is really processor intensive? the 360 has multiple hardware threads that could be used too.

I see that the multi-plat games look identical on the ps3 and 360, with the 360 having a slight edge(for being in the market longer) and games performing same on both. Why do people say ps3 is superior to the other consoles(technologically).bigevil_rashek

Yeap indeed. Sometimes games looking slighty better on 360 or PS3. Depends on what platform developers worked the game for.

Blu-ray and 1080p is a huge plaus though for next gen games. 09 or 10. Plus architecture of PS3 is hard,means that will get better and better thru the time. Because developers will work with better tools and programs that will can take advantage of everything PS3 can offer. Till now this is a very complex to do with the tools they have now.

But when you hear from developers that made Motorstorm and Uncharted with only like 40 to 60% of PS3 power then you can understand what youll see in the future.

360 on the other hand is very friendly to developers. They can take full advantage of it. Some games are warmer and slighty better that PS3. Ofcourse differences wont be noticable.But in the other hand higher resolution of PS3 make games look better too.

Imo yes, PS3 is really superior. But until developers/Sony develop the right tools to take full advantage of it,you wont see differences with 360. Only when you play 1080p,if game support this res,if game developed on PS3 platform.And still wont be that different with 360,or not at all.

I think they are pretty much equal.Heil68

Ok i remember this article i have the link

Long ass read and people with a half an understanding of Hardware will understand this article is not for the Faint of heart

Oh and that IGN thing they were paid off by MS

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]i think the only thing you will see the ps 3 do better are the animations. the cell can do crazy numbers for animation. Ontain

what makes you think animations have anything to do with the cell? that's more to do with the art budget.

do you think animation is really processor intensive? the 360 has multiple hardware threads that could be used too.

the way drake get wet is done by using a spree.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]It is inferior to 360, because it has a last gen GPU and less ram, and only one CPU core, but it is superior to WiiPBSnipes

Yeah the GPUs are about equal, the 360 is based on the ATI X1800 series gpu and the PS3 the Nvidia 7900 series. And those two GPUs were about equal. With the RAM however, the 360 has unified RAM while the PS3 has two seperate RAM, on for the GPU and the other for the system.

Just wait for MGS 4 and ESPECIALLY HAZE, and then continue talking on this thread. Basically, everything till the launch of Metal Gear Sold 4, Haze, or even Killzone 2 (and MAYBE also Resistance 2) can be considered speculation.

PS3 however is technologically superior full stop. 360 can be viewd as a console that uses more ore less standard technology, but very powerful "standard technology", whil PS3 uses less conventional techonlogy (cell processor and the way it works together with the RSX gpu) but again very powerful and theoretically capable of so much more. Also, ps3 has blu ray, and even though you can buy an external HD DVD drive for the 360 (which would make it more expensive overall than even the most expensive ps3), who cares? hd-dvd has less storage space (except of the triple layer which is as much as the dual layer blu ray, but quad layer blu ray is on it's way), and is slowly dying.

Ps3 runs games off of bly ray discs, which in the near future will be a huge advantage over the standard dvd-reading 360, cos there simply will be games that will take over 8 gigs of info (dual layer dvd), so games WILL get more complex on the ps3 than 360.

But again, untill we don't see the before mentioned ps3 exclusives, we can't tell if ps3's technological advance is really useful or not.

But if these games will use the resources appropriately and use the blu ray space appropriately (10-15 gigs at least) , i thin we'll be looking at some (or at least ONE) game that will probably look better than the 360 will ever be capable of pulling of.

Everything is a big IF:

ps3 out selling the 360

ps3 getting better games than 360

ps3 being technologically advanced, and seeing it in games as well, besides on paper wher it ACTUALLY IS!

and this is because of 2 reasons:

1) 360 has a full year advantage (which is a lot, especially in the sales domain)

2) 2008 is expected to be the year of the ps3....and it barely started so HAVE PATIENCE!!

Just wait for MGS 4 and ESPECIALLY HAZE, and then continue talking on this thread. Basically, everything till the launch of Metal Gear Sold 4, Haze, or even Killzone 2 (and MAYBE also Resistance 2) can be considered speculation.

PS3 however is technologically superior full stop. 360 can be viewd as a console that uses more ore less standard technology, but very powerful "standard technology", whil PS3 uses less conventional techonlogy (cell processor and the way it works together with the RSX gpu) but again very powerful and theoretically capable of so much more. Also, ps3 has blu ray, and even though you can buy an external HD DVD drive for the 360 (which would make it more expensive overall than even the most expensive ps3), who cares? hd-dvd has less storage space (except of the triple layer which is as much as the dual layer blu ray, but quad layer blu ray is on it's way), and is slowly dying.

Ps3 runs games off of bly ray discs, which in the near future will be a huge advantage over the standard dvd-reading 360, cos there simply will be games that will take over 8 gigs of info (dual layer dvd), so games WILL get more complex on the ps3 than 360.

But again, untill we don't see the before mentioned ps3 exclusives, we can't tell if ps3's technological advance is really useful or not.

But if these games will use the resources appropriately and use the blu ray space appropriately (10-15 gigs at least) , i thin we'll be looking at some (or at least ONE) game that will probably look better than the 360 will ever be capable of pulling of.

Everything is a big IF:

ps3 out selling the 360

ps3 getting better games than 360

ps3 being technologically advanced, and seeing it in games as well, besides on paper wher it ACTUALLY IS!

and this is because of 2 reasons:

1) 360 has a full year advantage (which is a lot, especially in the sales domain)

2) 2008 is expected to be the year of the ps3....and it barely started so HAVE PATIENCE!!

benkatz47

Pwn3d, to all you 360 people who think you are the Shi* for having a shi**y console, your days are numbered 360 tick tock