Is the Wii the most casualfied system of all time?

Maybe the PS2 was a casual console too... Because of the freaking price!

Casuals don't like paying 400 bucks for a videogame console. It's as simple as that.

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Bread_or_Decide

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

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PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Ontain

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

It was only "weak" in hardware, and casuals don't care about that.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Ontain

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

With a library that appealed to gamers FIRST and casuals SECOND. The Wii is the other way around.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Overthrow

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

It was only "weak" in hardware, and casuals don't care about that.

[QUOTE="Overthrow"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

GunSmith1_basic

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

It was only "weak" in hardware, and casuals don't care about that.

Then how come the weakest system in graphics always seems to win?

[QUOTE="Overthrow"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

GunSmith1_basic

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

It was only "weak" in hardware, and casuals don't care about that.

GTA disagrees

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Bread_or_Decide

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

With a library that appealed to gamers FIRST and casuals SECOND. The Wii is the other way around.

you clearly only see what you want. the ps2 had more games you would consider casual than hardcore. it's just that they get no attention here. the M rated games are disproportionally hyped here.

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="Overthrow"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

CJL13

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

It was only "weak" in hardware, and casuals don't care about that.

Then how come the weakest system in graphics always seems to win?

SNES and NES were not weak systems. PS and PS2 were the first time a weaker system won in sales.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Ontain

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

With a library that appealed to gamers FIRST and casuals SECOND. The Wii is the other way around.

you clearly only see what you want. the ps2 had more games you would consider casual than hardcore. it's just that they get no attention here. the M rated games are disproportionally hyped here.

Nintendo franchises, Jak and Ratchet, KOTOR, and others disagree.

[QUOTE="CJL13"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="Overthrow"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Bread_or_Decide

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

It was only "weak" in hardware, and casuals don't care about that.

Then how come the weakest system in graphics always seems to win?

SNES and NES were not weak systems. PS and PS2 were the first time a weaker system won in sales.

I'll give you SNES, but there were stronger systems than the NES later on. Don't forget how the GB systems and DS have been stomping the stronger competition.

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PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Ontain

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

He means it exposed casuals to quality games that hardcore gamers loved as well. For instance, Final Fantasy VII sold over 9 million copies. Believe Me. Most of the people who played it were casual gamers. The PS1 exposed casuals to games that pushed the boundaries of story-telling and gameplay. In fact, with its quality library, the PS1 turned many casuals into hardcore gamers. For instance, one of my buddies had never played an RPG before FF VII. Now, he's a bigger RPG freak than I am.

The Wii, on the other hand, seems to be content to shove out cheap, easy-to-play titles in an attempt to appeal to casuals. I'm hoping that with more sales and more time, Nintendo can change my mind. But right now, it's not looking so good.

the PS2 is the most casual video game system ever. not the Wii.

theres no dispute in that.

I mean the motion controller only proves how the Wii appeals to casualsALCATRAZZ3

the PS2 is the most casual video game system ever. not the Wii.

theres no dispute in that.

darth-pyschosis

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

AtomicLightbulb

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

He means it exposed casuals to quality games that hardcore gamers loved as well. For instance, Final Fantasy VII sold over 9 million copies. Believe Me. Most of the people who played it were casual gamers. The PS1 exposed casuals to games that pushed the boundaries of story-telling and gameplay. In fact, with its quality library, the PS1 turned many casuals into hardcore gamers. For instance, one of my buddies had never played an RPG before FF VII. Now, he's a bigger RPG freak than I am.

The Wii, on the other hand, seems to be content to shove out cheap, easy-to-play titles in an attempt to appeal to casuals. I'm hoping that with more sales and more time, Nintendo can change my mind. But right now, it's not looking so good.

ppl make it sound like it's the wii that makes games. it's just a vcr for games. it's the developers that make the games. and the wii is clearly more powerful than the ps2 thus games of greater quality are certainly possible. don't blame the console for the fault of the developers that didn't believe it would succeed.

Nintendo franchises, Jak and Ratchet, KOTOR, and others disagree.

CJL13

I think we see more threads about HAZE, GTA, MGS4, Halo3, Crysis, killzone than we here about any of the great games you mentioned. sad but true.

I would have to say yes, as someone who works in a game store the only people that for the Wii, are not gamers, they are between the ages of 35-50...Tohru_Readman

Quoted for truth. I work at a bank, and the uncles/aunts/married, poker players are the only ones I know buying the console. If you have kids,nieces,nephews, it can be a really good way to introduce them to games, and play as a family. No denying that. Its hard to tell if the family/party appeal will continue to sell consoles.

I'm waiting on Wii 2 personally, by then I should have kids old enough to make the system worthwhile.

[QUOTE="AtomicLightbulb"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

PS2 brought casuals up to its level.

Wii lowers itself to appeal to casuals.

Ontain

ps2 was the weakest last gen (besides the quickly dead DC) so how did it bring up casuals?

He means it exposed casuals to quality games that hardcore gamers loved as well. For instance, Final Fantasy VII sold over 9 million copies. Believe Me. Most of the people who played it were casual gamers. The PS1 exposed casuals to games that pushed the boundaries of story-telling and gameplay. In fact, with its quality library, the PS1 turned many casuals into hardcore gamers. For instance, one of my buddies had never played an RPG before FF VII. Now, he's a bigger RPG freak than I am.

The Wii, on the other hand, seems to be content to shove out cheap, easy-to-play titles in an attempt to appeal to casuals. I'm hoping that with more sales and more time, Nintendo can change my mind. But right now, it's not looking so good.

ppl make it sound like it's the wii that makes games. it's just a vcr for games. it's the developers that make the games. and the wii is clearly more powerful than the ps2 thus games of greater quality are certainly possible. don't blame the console for the fault of the developers that didn't believe it would succeed.

First party sets the standard. Wii Sports, Wii Play, Mario Party 8, and Super Paper Mario set the example of what sells and third party mainly follows. The console set up its own image.