Is the Wii worse than the GCN was?

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#1 metswonin69
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I did a little bit of research on GameRankings and the Gamecube had 105 AA titles released January 2005 and earlier while the Wii only currently has 78 Wii titles with an aggregate score of 80% or higher.

I think this proves that the Wii has somehow beaten the GCN in lacking quality games, something that most of us here on system wars would have thought impossible 5 years ago.

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#2 ActicEdge
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Perhaps, I didn't really like the Gamecube though so I'm fine with that.

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#3 Lto_thaG
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I don't know...But I remember the Gamecube having more memorable games.

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I did a little bit of research on GameRankings and the Gamecube had 105 AA titles released January 2005 and earlier while the Wii only currently has 78 Wii titles with an aggregate score of 80% or higher.

I think this proves that the Wii has somehow beaten the GCN in lacking quality games, something that most of us here on system wars would have thought impossible 5 years ago.

metswonin69
The GCN has 24 AAA according to Metacritic, its lack of games is highly exaggerated. The Wii had the fewest AAAE last year, but it had by far the most AAE. Check the spreadsheets.
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#5 sikanderahmed
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yeah its much much worse then GC, GC was actually a good gaming console

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#6 Parasomniac
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Definitely. Gamecube dominated with GOTY games and had much more quality.
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It was terrible to be an only Gamecube owner. So many game droughts, most of the year it was collecting dust.

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#8 metswonin69
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[QUOTE="metswonin69"]

I did a little bit of research on GameRankings and the Gamecube had 105 AA titles released January 2005 and earlier while the Wii only currently has 78 Wii titles with an aggregate score of 80% or higher.

I think this proves that the Wii has somehow beaten the GCN in lacking quality games, something that most of us here on system wars would have thought impossible 5 years ago.

ElTriforceo
The GCN has 24 AAA according to Metacritic, its lack of games is highly exaggerated. The Wii had the fewest AAAE last year, but it had by far the most AAE. Check the spreadsheets.

And yet it still lacks behind the Gamecube in total AA games at the same point of their respective life cycles.
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#9 mitu123
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Yes, it's worse than the cube, but it should get better hopefully.

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#10 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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GCN?

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#11 SaltyMeatballs
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GCN?

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Gamecube, the Nintendo part comes last for some reason.
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#12 SaltyMeatballs
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Cube was awesome though.
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#13 felipebo
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Hell no. Tales of Symphonia and Wind Waker are the only things I enjoyed. Against TP, SMG, SSBB (superior to SSBM, IMO), the Wii is clearly better.

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#14 randomwiiplayer
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Gamecube is 100 times better than the Wii.

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#15 ElTriforceo
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[QUOTE="ElTriforceo"][QUOTE="metswonin69"]

I did a little bit of research on GameRankings and the Gamecube had 105 AA titles released January 2005 and earlier while the Wii only currently has 78 Wii titles with an aggregate score of 80% or higher.

I think this proves that the Wii has somehow beaten the GCN in lacking quality games, something that most of us here on system wars would have thought impossible 5 years ago.

metswonin69
The GCN has 24 AAA according to Metacritic, its lack of games is highly exaggerated. The Wii had the fewest AAAE last year, but it had by far the most AAE. Check the spreadsheets.

And yet it still lacks behind the Gamecube in total AA games at the same point of their respective life cycles.

You didn't read the first part did you? The Gamecube game drought was so massively overrated, losing to it honestly isn't even a bad thing. Maybe it paled in comparison to the PS2's constant stream of quality games, but all in all I woulda taken the best from the GCN over the best from the PS2. So many Wii games that were considered by most critics and gamers to be AAA or even AAAAE status have been stuck around the 86-87/100 average area due to a few outliers who gave the game 5/10s (Little King's Story, Punch Out!!, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, LostWinds 2, etc.) that they can hardly even be called AA. Both gens I have been a Nintendo/Sony owner, I hold no strong need to defend Nintendo, but the quality of AA games on the Wii is much higher than that on the Gamecube. And honestly once we're getting past talking about the30 best games on a console aren't we getting a bit absurd? You have to play nonstop and be a collector of games to need 105 games in a few years. The average person should be able to hold off on 10-15 over a few years then people who care enough to talk about games online, like all of us, should get by on 30-40 quality games in a gen (and if not there are multiple platforms....). So all in all, has GCN won in quantity? Ya. In quality? Debatable. Not in the AAA area, but the Wii has better AA games.
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#16 SaltyMeatballs
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Hell no. Tales of Symphonia and Wind Waker are the only things I enjoyed. Against TP, SMG, SSBB (superior to SSBM, IMO), the Wii is clearly better.

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Lol, TP. It scored higher on the GCN.
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#17 kraken2109
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Stop hating the cube! It was great!

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#18 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Yeah Wii is a great console but IMO every console ever created fails in comparison to the GCN.

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#19 Cherokee_Jack
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Yeah. But the Gamecube was fine.
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#20 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

GCN?

SaltyMeatballs

Gamecube, the Nintendo part comes last for some reason.

So why dont we csll the PS3 the PS3S (playstation 3sony)?

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#21 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="felipebo"]

Hell no. Tales of Symphonia and Wind Waker are the only things I enjoyed. Against TP, SMG, SSBB (superior to SSBM, IMO), the Wii is clearly better.

SaltyMeatballs

Lol, TP. It scored higher on the GCN.

The reviewer said it was Better on the Wii but it got a better score on the GCN since it has lower standards (That is what Jeff Gerstman said when he reviewed both versions of the game.)

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#22 felipebo
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[QUOTE="felipebo"]

Hell no. Tales of Symphonia and Wind Waker are the only things I enjoyed. Against TP, SMG, SSBB (superior to SSBM, IMO), the Wii is clearly better.

SaltyMeatballs

Lol, TP. It scored higher on the GCN.

Yes, .1 is VERY important.

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#23 stereointegrity
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gamecube stomps the wii out....i remember my first run threw of RE4 and RE1 remake and RE0......i remember the pokemon stadium days with it and all my zelda love....
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

GCN?

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Gamecube, the Nintendo part comes last for some reason.

So why dont we csll the PS3 the PS3S (playstation sony)?

The reason the Nintendo part comes after the GC part in the abbreviation was because NGC was already used by another company and Nintendo always tried to put their name in the Abbreviation before this gen.

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#25 nintendoboy16
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I say yes, the Gamecube had more games (both first party and third), than the Wii has right now. Even third party support on the Gamecube was better than this.
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You do realize that the Wii only has 7 AAA games on gamerankings right? Add in the fact that 3 of them are remakes of Gamecube games and you have a very pathetic list indeed. And yes the top 100 games is important because it takes about 100 games to cater to everyones tastes and make sure everyone has 10-15 games to play.
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#27 Half-Way
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yeah its much much worse then GC, GC was actually a good gaming console

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this is nintendos faith

people never notice before its over

motion controles arent cool when nintendo dose it, later when the others do it, its suddenly awesome

gamecube wasent actully a bad console, people though that even if it had more GOTY then the others,

but why do they notice that now? why not before?

same happens to zelda,

zelda windwaker sucked everyone hated its cartoony style, the sailing,

but hey, now its a great game,

zelda TP sucks now. we need to wait for the next zelda so they can switch places

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#28 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="felipebo"]

Hell no. Tales of Symphonia and Wind Waker are the only things I enjoyed. Against TP, SMG, SSBB (superior to SSBM, IMO), the Wii is clearly better.

felipebo

Lol, TP. It scored higher on the GCN.

Yes, .1 is VERY important.

Well you compared TP against the GCN.
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#29 Pices
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Definitely. Gamecube dominated with GOTY games and had much more quality.Parasomniac
Ya, but the sales caused Nintendo to change to what it is today
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#30 Pices
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What people here failed to realize is that the GC was out even LONGER than the Wii >.>
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#31 metswonin69
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What people here failed to realize is that the GC was out even LONGER than the Wii >.>Pices
What you fail to realize is that I only included games released on the GCN from November 2001-January 2005.
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#32 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"]What people here failed to realize is that the GC was out even LONGER than the Wii >.>metswonin69
What you fail to realize is that I only included games released on the GCN from November 2001-January 2005.

That is not the correct way to do so. Wait until the Wii's generation ends and then do it. What started from November 2001 till January 2005 is different from what happened from November 2006 till January 2010
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#33 metswonin69
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[QUOTE="metswonin69"][QUOTE="Pices"]What people here failed to realize is that the GC was out even LONGER than the Wii >.>Pices
What you fail to realize is that I only included games released on the GCN from November 2001-January 2005.

That is not the correct way to do so. Wait until the Wii's generation ends and then do it. What started from November 2001 till January 2005 is different from what happened from November 2006 till January 2010

Which wouldn't be fair to the GCN because Nintendo essentially gave up on it after three years.
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#34 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="metswonin69"] What you fail to realize is that I only included games released on the GCN from November 2001-January 2005.metswonin69
That is not the correct way to do so. Wait until the Wii's generation ends and then do it. What started from November 2001 till January 2005 is different from what happened from November 2006 till January 2010

Which wouldn't be fair to the GCN because Nintendo essentially gave up on it after three years.

Thanks to the so-called fans who abandoned them. Then Nintendo decided to "make" fans
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#35 MC3887
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Gamecube was beast, the only reason the Xbox was my main console last gen was because of Halo.

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#36 Panosola
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The Wii gave many good games but most of them they look worst than the best XBOX games.I didn't have see any game on the Wii that it look better than Doom 3 and Conker - Live&Reloaded on the XBOX.....that is really sad.The only games that look a bit better is Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 but again the different it is not big.....

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#37 Pices
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

The Wii gave many good games but most of them they look worst than the best XBOX games.I didn't have see any game on the Wii that it look better than Doom 3 and Conker - Live&Reloaded on the XBOX.....that is really sad.The only games that look a bit better is Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 but again the different it is not big.....

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#38 VendettaRed07
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Let me reword that for you...

" Is the wii not as good as the GCN was?"

and the answer is yes, it wasn't as good as the GCN.

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#39 ferelas
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GCN was better at this point in their lifecycles, but itis one of the more underrated consoles. I mean, people rank the XBOX above the Gamecube...Halo's good, but the Gamecube lineup was way better overall.

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[QUOTE="metswonin69"][QUOTE="Pices"] That is not the correct way to do so. Wait until the Wii's generation ends and then do it. What started from November 2001 till January 2005 is different from what happened from November 2006 till January 2010Pices
Which wouldn't be fair to the GCN because Nintendo essentially gave up on it after three years.

Thanks to the so-called fans who abandoned them. Then Nintendo decided to "make" fans

So you think people should stay loyal to a company that offers them an inferior product compared to its competitors? If that is true, then I am pretty sure you are in the minority there.
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#41 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="metswonin69"] Which wouldn't be fair to the GCN because Nintendo essentially gave up on it after three years.metswonin69
Thanks to the so-called fans who abandoned them. Then Nintendo decided to "make" fans

So you think people should stay loyal to a company that offers them an inferior product compared to its competitors? If that is true, then I am pretty sure you are in the minority there.

Inferior? Didn't you say that the Gc had an amazing library and a lot of games that achieved GOTY awards?
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#42 789shadow
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The Gamecube was bad?

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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

yeah its much much worse then GC, GC was actually a good gaming console

Half-Way

this is nintendos faith

people never notice before its over

motion controles arent cool when nintendo dose it, later when the others do it, its suddenly awesome

I dont think ive heard one person say NATAL or sonys wands are going to be awesome. And 90% of the reason that gamers are mad that nintendo went so motion control heavy is because the hardware behind the system its self. Nintendo forced you into choosing different controls or way better graphics and online. If the wiis tech was atleast comparable to the 360, and could handle multiplat games like dead space, MW2, basically give you the same experience except with IR controls then gamers would take the system alot more seriously. But instead we get totally gimped/late ports of CODWAW and the original MW, with decent IR controls, at 30fps.

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#44 Im_single
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Gamecube and the Wii are vastly underrated, they may not get the big multiplats or the shooters with pretty graphics but the games are very fun and memorable.
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[QUOTE="metswonin69"][QUOTE="Pices"] Thanks to the so-called fans who abandoned them. Then Nintendo decided to "make" fansPices
So you think people should stay loyal to a company that offers them an inferior product compared to its competitors? If that is true, then I am pretty sure you are in the minority there.

Inferior? Didn't you say that the Gc had an amazing library and a lot of games that achieved GOTY awards?

Nope, I believe that you are confusing me with somebody else. I merely stated that the GC had a superior game library than the Wii at this point of time in their respective lifecycles.
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#46 EddieBGreen
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The Wii figures would look a lot better if you picked thru metacritic/gamerankings and pulled out all the 5/6's from games that otherwise got 8/9's. The reason the Wii gets so many games in the 7/8 range is because most of them have mixed reviews.

Draw your own conclusions from this.

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#47 LegatoSkyheart
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I just love it when people say that the Cube is awesome and yet bash the Wii to oblivion.

What did the people say? The Wii is...what....4 Gamecubes put together?

Well if the Gamecube was such an awesome console THEN WHERE ARE THE AWESOME GAMES!?

no brainer here the Wii has about 4 controller options but apparently there are no "gamer" games.

This must be the Developer's fault. If the Gamecube was so awesome shouldn't we be seeing enhanced Gamecube games for the Wii? well?

I guess this is why many people love the 360, the 360's controller has so many similarities to the Gamecube controller it's not funny.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

GCN?

toast_burner

Gamecube, the Nintendo part comes last for some reason.

So why dont we csll the PS3 the PS3S (playstation 3sony)?

Its because NGC was already taken by the Neo Geo Color (I think). So GCN (GameCube Nintendo) had to be its short.

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#49 MC3887
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I just love it when people say that the Cube is awesome and yet bash the Wii to oblivion.

What did the people say? The Wii is...what....4 Gamecubes put together?

Well if the Gamecube was such an awesome console THEN WHERE ARE THE AWESOME GAMES!?

no brainer here the Wii has about 4 controller options but apparently there are no "gamer" games.

This must be the Developer's fault. If the Gamecube was so awesome shouldn't we be seeing enhanced Gamecube games for the Wii? well?

I guess this is why many people love the 360, the 360's controller has so many similarities to the Gamecube controller it's not funny.

LegatoSkyheart

4 gamecubes? Doesn't show it lol, I think they say 2 gamecubes ducttaped. Anyway the Gamecube was about Xbox level last gen(GC had to do 60fps for its best looking games, while Xbox 30fps.)

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#50 Burning-Sludge
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Gamecube is 100 times better than the Wii.

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