It staggers me how many people in this thread don't seem to understand what it's about at all....actually it doesn't stagger me that much, I kind of expected it from SW :(.
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It staggers me how many people in this thread don't seem to understand what it's about at all....actually it doesn't stagger me that much, I kind of expected it from SW :(.
1080pOnly
Ofc. is SW. A good share of hermits actually own consoles, such as myself, but is only the bias consolite people that never tried pc would make up all these excuses or denials.
The only ones that bash pc that also owns them are trolls anyway which is rare but they are floating around.
[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Actually I believe you miss understand my point.. :| ..how are those genre's better played on the PC (regardless of what input you use)?lundy86_4
Your point was clear. As was the point in the post, that you quoted.
To answer your question it depends on the end-user. However, when Pannic stated "Fighters?" GhoX assumed it was due to the consoles having controllers, thus he said controllers can be used on PC (thus PC fighters can be used with controllers).
Don't b*tch at me, because you misunderstood, and wasted time posting pictures.
Exactly! Thank You.
Fighters?PannicAtackFighting sticks can be used on PC too, therefore the platforms are pretty much equal. Since the TC is talking about all fighting games available on all systems anyway. The PC would win in any regard then because it can use any input method that a person could want for pretty much any game.
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?princeofshapeirSSFIV:AE on PC is a great port and with a gamepad/arcade stick it's probably an even better experience than consoles. Not to mention the luxury of crisp 1080p+ and constant 60 frames per second.
Shuddup.
1. There are no arcade sticks for PC
2. If you're gonna get a gamepad for PC, you might as well play it on a console.
3. If I had to use K&M, you know what I'll do? I'll drive to the nearest arcade and play it there.
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?DragonfireXZ95Fighting sticks can be used on PC too, therefore the platforms are pretty much equal. Since the TC is talking about all fighting games available on all systems anyway. The PC would win in any regard then because it can use any input method that a person could want for pretty much any game.
Show me.
Show me a stick for the PC which is widely marketed. You have to either build your own, or buy one from some dude on some obscure website who does it as a hobby. Even if you did find one for the PC, it won't be anywhere close to the quality of Madcatz or high end Hori ones.
Good arcade sticks MUST come with Sanwa buttons. Oh yeah, and Japanese don't give two fu*** about PC gaming, and so they don't make em'
If you're gonna get a gamepad for PC, you might as well play it on a console.jhcho2Right, because nobody could possibly be interested in significantly better graphics and framerate.
[QUOTE="jhcho2"] If you're gonna get a gamepad for PC, you might as well play it on a console.gamebreakerz__Right, because nobody could possibly be interested in significantly better graphics and framerate.
In practice, there is no fighting game on the PC which has better framerate or graphics than their console counterpart. The ones which could be better on the PC....don't actually get ported to the PC. The ones which do get ported, look and play the same, performance wise, as the console version.
Fighting sticks can be used on PC too, therefore the platforms are pretty much equal. Since the TC is talking about all fighting games available on all systems anyway. The PC would win in any regard then because it can use any input method that a person could want for pretty much any game.[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?jhcho2
Show me.
Show me a stick for the PC which is widely marketed. You have to either build your own, or buy one from some dude on some obscure website who does it as a hobby. Even if you did find one for the PC, it won't be anywhere close to the quality of Madcatz or high end Hori ones.
Good arcade sticks MUST come with Sanwa buttons. Oh yeah, and Japanese don't give two fu*** about PC gaming, and so they don't make em'
"Google, motherfu*ker, do you use it?"https://www.google.com/search?q=usb+arcade+stick&num=100&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ei=3H_dUKKcBoO-8ATX1IFg&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAA&biw=1293&bih=998
Arcade sticks are just as speciality as flight stlicks and racing wheels. The only advantage console had was their gamepad's ubiquity, which PC now has (because all new controllers are just USB devices. Own a console? Your pc now has a gamepad.)
(bolded) if it isn't natively supported on PC, xpadder can almost certainly make it work.
Now gtfo.
Fighters, sport games (at least action-based ones), action games of Bayonetta variety and all sorts of party/kinect/Move games are all better on consoles.
PC has a better version of most, on top of SPorts Sims -which score high)[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Sport games...Jankarcop
not really Fifa's stil playing catchup and i've heard 13 is using an older Player impact engine, not to mention the online components never seem as busy on the PC from what i've heard.
PES was good back in the day on PC, i loved playing that at high school over the network but Fifa's always been a step out of touch with its lead platforms.
[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
Exclusives?
1080pOnly
Did you actually read and understand the OP? I thought not...
Oh i got it. And I agree fully. That's what I was getting at. The only games that are best played on consoles are those that aren't available on PC.
Fighting sticks can be used on PC too, therefore the platforms are pretty much equal. Since the TC is talking about all fighting games available on all systems anyway. The PC would win in any regard then because it can use any input method that a person could want for pretty much any game.[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?jhcho2
Show me.
Show me a stick for the PC which is widely marketed. You have to either build your own, or buy one from some dude on some obscure website who does it as a hobby. Even if you did find one for the PC, it won't be anywhere close to the quality of Madcatz or high end Hori ones.
Good arcade sticks MUST come with Sanwa buttons. Oh yeah, and Japanese don't give two fu*** about PC gaming, and so they don't make em'
Lol. Learn2internets. Any controller that can plug into a console can be made to work on a PC, usually with zero effort, worst case scenario, with like 5 minutes of effort.
[QUOTE="jhcho2"]
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Fighting sticks can be used on PC too, therefore the platforms are pretty much equal. Since the TC is talking about all fighting games available on all systems anyway. The PC would win in any regard then because it can use any input method that a person could want for pretty much any game.the_bi99man
Show me.
Show me a stick for the PC which is widely marketed. You have to either build your own, or buy one from some dude on some obscure website who does it as a hobby. Even if you did find one for the PC, it won't be anywhere close to the quality of Madcatz or high end Hori ones.
Good arcade sticks MUST come with Sanwa buttons. Oh yeah, and Japanese don't give two fu*** about PC gaming, and so they don't make em'
Lol. Learn2internets. Any controller that can plug into a console can be made to work on a PC, usually with zero effort, worst case scenario, with like 5 minutes of effort.
That's true. Besides Sony's own Six-Axis Dualshock 3 and other first-party peripherals, most 3rd-party PS3 peripherals work with the PC as well. That holds true for my kid's Logitech racing wheel (PC/PS3) and my Power A PS3 controller (360 layout).
It staggers me how many people in this thread don't seem to understand what it's about at all....actually it doesn't stagger me that much, I kind of expected it from SW :(.
1080pOnly
Dude.. The Hermits (Once again) step in with their elitist attitudes about the "superiority" of the PC and it's inputs.. You guys get counted with games not available on the PC (regardless of the iputs used) and claim people don't understand. Who the hell cares if a genre is "better played" on the PC if there's only 1-2 games to take advantage of that input.
That's like saying because the PS3 has KB/M inputs.. that all PC games are better played on the consoles.
[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]
It staggers me how many people in this thread don't seem to understand what it's about at all....actually it doesn't stagger me that much, I kind of expected it from SW :(.
OhSnapitz
Dude.. The Hermits (Once again) step in with their elitist attitudes about the "superiority" of the PC and it's inputs.. You guys get counted with games not available on the PC (regardless of the iputs used) and claim people don't understand. Who the hell cares if a genre is "better played" on the PC if there's only 1-2 games to take advantage of that input.
That's like saying because the PS3 has KB/M inputs.. that all PC games are better played on the consoles.
What genre of game is not available on PC?[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?rilpasnope, not even that Street fighter 4, Street Fighter X Tekken and blazblue are on Pc
VF5, DOA5 & Tekken Tag 2 are not.
And have fun breaking your fingers on a keyboard... :P
Fighting sticks can be used on PC too, therefore the platforms are pretty much equal. Since the TC is talking about all fighting games available on all systems anyway. The PC would win in any regard then because it can use any input method that a person could want for pretty much any game.[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?jhcho2
Show me.
Show me a stick for the PC which is widely marketed. You have to either build your own, or buy one from some dude on some obscure website who does it as a hobby. Even if you did find one for the PC, it won't be anywhere close to the quality of Madcatz or high end Hori ones.
Good arcade sticks MUST come with Sanwa buttons. Oh yeah, and Japanese don't give two fu*** about PC gaming, and so they don't make em'
any fighting stick that works on the Xbox 360 or the PS3 will work on the PC
nope, not even that Street fighter 4, Street Fighter X Tekken and blazblue are on Pc[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?nameless12345
VF5, DOA5 & Tekken Tag 2 are not.
And have fun breaking your fingers on a keyboard... :P
you play fighters with a keyboard on a console? you must not be a very smart person
[QUOTE="nameless12345"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"] nope, not even that Street fighter 4, Street Fighter X Tekken and blazblue are on Pcrilpas
VF5, DOA5 & Tekken Tag 2 are not.
And have fun breaking your fingers on a keyboard... :P
you play fighters with a keyboard on a console? you must not be a very smart person
I think most people on PC play them with a keyboard, which sucks a little for them.
A gamepad with a good D-pad should obviously be the bare minimum for those but I don't think all PC gamers have one...
I think most people on PC play them with a keyboard, which sucks a little for them.
A gamepad with a good D-pad should obviously be the bare minimum for those but I don't think all PC gamers have one...
nameless12345
those that don't have a gamepad likely don't play fighters on the PC
why would you buy a fighter for PC if you don't have a gamepad?
It's not like gamepads for PC are as expensive as console gamepads anyway
[QUOTE="nameless12345"]
I think most people on PC play them with a keyboard, which sucks a little for them.
A gamepad with a good D-pad should obviously be the bare minimum for those but I don't think all PC gamers have one...
rilpas
those that don't have a gamepad likely don't play fighters on the PC
why would you buy a fighter for PC if you don't have a gamepad?
It's not like gamepads for PC are as expensive as console gamepads anyway
You would be surprised how many PC gamers were asking if keyboard control is good enough for Street Fighter IV when it came out... (even on "professional" fighting forums)
There are some serious tears in this thread, quite funny really. Is it so hard to admit that there would be no reason, if those conditions artificially created by the manufacturers didn't exist, to game on console? The PC could do all of the things that a console could but the reverse is not true. Games already exist that simply aren't possible to do on console because of the limitations in control method, hardware and software.
I get that they do exist, I get that you can't play all games on PC and I get that consoles have good games on them. That is not the point of this hypothetical situation.
I think most people on PC play them with a keyboard, which sucks a little for them.
A gamepad with a good D-pad should obviously be the bare minimum for those but I don't think all PC gamers have one...
nameless12345
Not really relevant. Some people might make the wrong choice and play with a keyboard but the reality is they don't have to, they made a choice to. Anyone serious about fighting games would know they could use any controller they wanted.
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="nameless12345"]
I think most people on PC play them with a keyboard, which sucks a little for them.
A gamepad with a good D-pad should obviously be the bare minimum for those but I don't think all PC gamers have one...
nameless12345
those that don't have a gamepad likely don't play fighters on the PC
why would you buy a fighter for PC if you don't have a gamepad?
It's not like gamepads for PC are as expensive as console gamepads anyway
You would be surprised how many PC gamers were asking if keyboard control is good enough for Street Fighter IV when it came out... (even on "professional" fighting forums)
their loss then
[QUOTE="nameless12345"]
I think most people on PC play them with a keyboard, which sucks a little for them.
A gamepad with a good D-pad should obviously be the bare minimum for those but I don't think all PC gamers have one...
rilpas
those that don't have a gamepad likely don't play fighters on the PC
why would you buy a fighter for PC if you don't have a gamepad?
It's not like gamepads for PC are as expensive as console gamepads anyway
Yea i have 3 Gamepad and the cheapest costs $25Right, because nobody could possibly be interested in significantly better graphics and framerate.[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="jhcho2"] If you're gonna get a gamepad for PC, you might as well play it on a console.jhcho2
In practice, there is no fighting game on the PC which has better framerate or graphics than their console counterpart. The ones which could be better on the PC....don't actually get ported to the PC. The ones which do get ported, look and play the same, performance wise, as the console version.
SF4 looks so much better on PC it's unbelievable. With such low requirements, you can easily crank anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering... the game looks so clean. PC also has the least amount of input lag, comparable to the arcade version. PS3 has the most (approx 2 frames of input lag).
I can only imagine what Tekken Tag 2 would look like. Higher res, better textures, no dropping of res when more than two characters are on the screen at the same time.. that technique looks like garbage.
Well, to be honest it's still better than playing FPS-es on a padAnd have fun breaking your fingers on a keyboard... :P
nameless12345
you can plug KB and mouse into PS3. So if you want to go all hypothetical...exactly what advantage PC has controls-wise?There are some serious tears in this thread, quite funny really. Is it so hard to admit that there would be no reason, if those conditions artificially created by the manufacturers didn't exist, to game on console? The PC could do all of the things that a console could but the reverse is not true. Games already exist that simply aren't possible to do on console because of the limitations in control method, hardware and software.
I get that they do exist, I get that you can't play all games on PC and I get that consoles have good games on them. That is not the point of this hypothetical situation.
1080pOnly
you can plug KB and mouse into PS3. So if you want to go all hypothetical...exactly what advantage PC has controls-wise?[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]
There are some serious tears in this thread, quite funny really. Is it so hard to admit that there would be no reason, if those conditions artificially created by the manufacturers didn't exist, to game on console? The PC could do all of the things that a console could but the reverse is not true. Games already exist that simply aren't possible to do on console because of the limitations in control method, hardware and software.
I get that they do exist, I get that you can't play all games on PC and I get that consoles have good games on them. That is not the point of this hypothetical situation.
AdrianWerner
Not all PS3 games support mouse/kb controls. Pretty much every PC game these days supports gamepads, as well as mouse/kb, and those that don't can be made to with any of the various programs that exist for just that purpose.
And? There's very thin selection of fighting games on PC. A computer might support gamepad, but it's useless feature when there aren't fighting games taking advantage of it. If OP wants to go hypothetical and ignore the fact that fighting devs do not support PC with games then one can just as well ignore the fact that PS3 devs don't support mouse/kb controls.Not all PS3 games support mouse/kb controls. Pretty much every PC game these days supports gamepads, as well as mouse/kb, and those that don't can be made to with any of the various programs that exist for just that purpose.
the_bi99man
The topic is about better played, not the selection of games. No, there is absolutely no genre on consoles that are not better played on a PC. The hardware is simply light years ahead to sustain a fluid framerate and a much higher graphical fidelity, and supports practically all known controllers for your pleasure.
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Fighters?princeofshapeirSSFIV:AE on PC is a great port and with a gamepad/arcade stick it's probably an even better experience than consoles. Not to mention the luxury of crisp 1080p+ and constant 60 frames per second.
Nope got SF4 for PC 360 and PS3. Played the least on PC. Has no community. Plays fine if you have an arcade stick however I did have some V sync problmes. Whit Vsync on you get some input lag which isunexceptable for serious fighting players and whit v sync off you get a lot of screen threading which can be distracting wen you need to link tight combos. Also its a freaking games for windows live game which is just "AVGN vocie" AAAAAS.
Oh yeah and I had some issues whit hooking few fightsticks and making them work on the PC.
Sf4 is best on 360 atm for 2 reasons.
1.Xbox live has less net lag for online play.
2. PS3 has a very slight but still noticeable to experienced fighter players hardware imput lag (not just SF4,everything. menus/games).
Just FYI.
Bottom line.Most fighterts dont come to PC and those that do arent better by any means. Might look better but no serious fighing fan gives 2 sh*ts about graphics. Its kinda like the SC2 scene, a lot of the best players would play on the lowest settings. I've had quite some issues whit SF4 on PC and would go whit the console version any day.Actual playing community, no anying bugs and issues.
you can plug KB and mouse into PS3. So if you want to go all hypothetical...exactly what advantage PC has controls-wise?
AdrianWerner
Wider variety of controllers (pads), racing wheels, mice (better software) and the ability to use any other type of custom controller you can imagine.
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