Is There Any Reason For Wii To Have Sold More Units Than 360 Or PS3?

I was just thinking about this, and other than the fact it is kiddie friendly, there is nothing to warrant its title at the top of the generation...

What is your take on it? Discuss.

Great marketing.thrones

Marketing/appeal.

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Casual Waggle love - My dad was amazed with the Wii Sports, especially the golf, and then I said "You could play other golf games, alot more holes, alot more precise ect ect.

"Nah I like actually doing the movement".

-_- ...... but the Wii Swing is nothing like gold and often fails.

I was just thinking about this, and other than the fact it is kiddie friendly, there is nothing to warrant its title at the top of the generation...

What is your take on it? Discuss.

KOTORkicker

Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.lancea34

Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.lancea34

Actually, it's started out at the price of two hundred bucks. The price gap between the Gamecube and the Ps2 and X-box was smaller compared to the price gaps between the Wii and the Ps3 and 360. The gamecube wasnt one hundred bucks till later in it's life.

Great marketing.thrones

Yeah that's about it. In every way the Wii is the worst console. Especially in the value.

Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.lancea34

It does when the others are priced at 400+. Also, the games are $10 cheaper. Add that with some great marketing skills and Mario and you have a winner.

[QUOTE="lancea34"]Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.Bubblehash

...have you like, not seen the 360 price? It's hardly "so much more". Plus this has already been debunked, an arcade 360 costs less than a Wii in Europe and itstill doesn't sell as much as a Wii.

Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.lancea34

Yes but unlike the gamecube it's not being marketed as a gaming machine now is it??

It counts when the competition cost so much more.Bubblehash

It does when the others are priced at 400+. Also, the games are $10 cheaper. Add that with some great marketing skills and Mario and you have a winner.

hayato_

Actually the Xbox 360 is selling for less than the Wii in some world regions. And still it's being outsold even in these places. Of course the PS3 is also outselling the 360 on a monthly basis, despite costing considerably more (especially outside of the US).

Not to mention the Gamecube didn't start at $99. It worded it's way down to $99. Nice try though. ;)Bubblehash

No, but it did start out at 199. Which was still a hundred bucks less than the competition.

Great marketing is one reason. Casual appeal, price, name brand recognition, ease of use and some big games made the Wii a success.

Now price can be disputed, but this gen, the competing gaming consoles started out at $399 and $599... which is expensive for gamers in general. There is a big difference in price between the PS3 and Wii... and the 360 at $399 is still pretty high. It's a factor since the economy is down, but it's certainly not the only reason.

[QUOTE="thrones"]Great marketing.Lazy_Boy88

Yeah that's about it. In every way the Wii is the worst console. Especially in the value.

[QUOTE="lancea34"]Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.thejakel11225

Yes but unlike the gamecube it's not being marketed as a gaming machine now is it??

Yes it is. You play games on it don't you?:|

There seems to be a metric crap load of :cry: from the anti-Wii movement today, are we getting upset because we are nervous that Nintendo will have something up their sleeves this E3? It sells because it is fun, and there are still some gamers out there that enjoy a little fun from time to time :|, maybe it is often seen as a second console but it sell regardless.SapSacPrime

The ps3 and 360 are fun, but they're not selling nearly as good as the Wii for one reason, the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360. PS3/360 are being marketed as gaming consoles, while the Wii is being marketed as an excercise/party machine, with few great titles such as SMG/Zelda/metroid that would appeal to hardcore ninty gamers and the rest is what, Wii fit?? Wii sports?? Wii play?? cooking mama?? wario ware?? and the ton of shovelware that would appeal only to casuals. I've also noticed that most hardcore gamers don't have a Wii as thier only gaming machine.

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

thejakel11225

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

Jaysonguy

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

Nice try though.

[QUOTE="lancea34"]Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.hayato_

It does when the others are priced at 400+. Also, the games are $10 cheaper. Add that with some great marketing skills and Mario and you have a winner.

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]It counts when the competition cost so much more.ThePlothole

It does when the others are priced at 400+. Also, the games are $10 cheaper. Add that with some great marketing skills and Mario and you have a winner.

hayato_

Actually the Xbox 360 is selling for less than the Wii in some world regions. And still it's being outsold even in these places. Of course the PS3 is also outselling the 360 on a monthly basis, despite costing considerably more (especially outside of the US).

I meant in the beginning of the gen when the competion was marked at $400 and $600.

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

[QUOTE="lancea34"]Attention to Lemmings, Cows and Hermits!!!: The gamecube was 99$ last gen and it still lost horribly, so the Wii's price doesn't count.lancea34

Yes but unlike the gamecube it's not being marketed as a gaming machine now is it??

Yes it is. You play games on it don't you?:|

yes you can, but it doesn't change that it's being marketed more as a training/party machine as it is as a gaming console, and the ammount of games on the Wii that would appeal to hardcores aren't nearly as much as the ammount the ps3/360 has.

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]There seems to be a metric crap load of :cry: from the anti-Wii movement today, are we getting upset because we are nervous that Nintendo will have something up their sleeves this E3? It sells because it is fun, and there are still some gamers out there that enjoy a little fun from time to time :|, maybe it is often seen as a second console but it sell regardless.thejakel11225

The ps3 and 360 are fun, but they're not selling nearly as good as the Wii for one reason, the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360. PS3/360 are being marketed as gaming consoles, while the Wii is being marketed as an excercise/party machine, with few great titles such as SMG/Zelda/metroid that would appeal to hardcore ninty gamers and the rest is what, Wii fit?? Wii sports?? Wii play?? cooking mama?? wario ware?? and the ton of shovelware that would appeal only to casuals. I've also noticed that most hardcore gamers don't have a Wii as thier only gaming machine.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

Stevo_the_gamer

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

Nice try though.

Ohhhhh so most of the Wii's sales are from Ebay sales?

Oh of course lol

So now casuals stay outside all night for a Wii but they also pay hundreds of dollars more then they have to for the Wii

Which kills the whole "The Wii sells because it's cheaper" argument

Because it's the only next gen console and the only console a hardcore gamer can be fully happy withJaysonguy

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Because it's the only next gen console and the only console a hardcore gamer can be fully happy withThepla

My Mom plays the DS, wants a Wii and she is hardcore

So I guess I win?

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

Jaysonguy

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

those are the hardcore nintendo fans, which imo don't even make up the majority of the people that bought the Wii.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

thejakel11225

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

those are the hardcore nintendo fans, which imo don't even make up the majority of the people that bought the Wii.

Oh I see, the hardcore Nintendo fans that didn't support the Gamecube but do support the Wii?

Those crazy hardcore fans always taking every odd generation off to show their support!

[QUOTE="Thepla"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Because it's the only next gen console and the only console a hardcore gamer can be fully happy withJaysonguy

My Mom plays the DS, wants a Wii and she is hardcore

So I guess I win?

You just made me get off my PS3 browser ans start my computer so i can type faster to prove you wrong.

First of all the DS is not Hardcore nor the wii. And how many moms do you know that are hardcore gamers? If she was a hardcore gamer than trust me she wouldnt be playing a wii, instead she would have a ps3 or a 360.

So i win

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Thepla"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Because it's the only next gen console and the only console a hardcore gamer can be fully happy withThepla

My Mom plays the DS, wants a Wii and she is hardcore

So I guess I win?

You just made me get off my PS3 browser ans start my computer so i can type faster to prove you wrong.

First of all the DS is not Hardcore nor the wii. And how many moms do you know that are hardcore gamers? If she was a hardcore gamer than trust me she wouldnt be playing a wii, instead she would have a ps3 or a 360.

So i win

Also you are so wrong about a freakin MOM playing a freakin DS. I am sure she doesnt, she prolly plays the wii but not a ds. And if she does then i am sorry but she is a weird mom. lmfao. A mom playing DS :lol:

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

Jaysonguy

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

those are the hardcore nintendo fans, which imo don't even make up the majority of the people that bought the Wii.

Oh I see, the hardcore Nintendo fans that didn't support the Gamecube but do support the Wii?

Those crazy hardcore fans always taking every odd generation off to show their support!

Hardcore nintendo fans did support the GC :|, ya know, that's what "hardcore" is all about, it's just that the GC wasn't a better gaming machine than the ps2 or even Xbox, just like the Wii isn't a better gaming machine than the ps360, only difference is nongamers are buying the Wii, while sony and microsoft are catering to the hardcore.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Thepla"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Because it's the only next gen console and the only console a hardcore gamer can be fully happy withThepla

My Mom plays the DS, wants a Wii and she is hardcore

So I guess I win?

You just made me get off my PS3 browser ans start my computer so i can type faster to prove you wrong.

First of all the DS is not Hardcore nor the wii. And how many moms do you know that are hardcore gamers? If she was a hardcore gamer than trust me she wouldnt be playing a wii, instead she would have a ps3 or a 360.

So i win

Oh I see.

So games like Final Fantasy aren't hardcore games?

Gotcha, see I thought that games like Etrian Odyssey and Contra 4 were hardcore games because they're for hardcore gamers.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

thejakel11225

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

those are the hardcore nintendo fans, which imo don't even make up the majority of the people that bought the Wii.

Oh I see, the hardcore Nintendo fans that didn't support the Gamecube but do support the Wii?

Those crazy hardcore fans always taking every odd generation off to show their support!

Hardcore nintendo fans did support the GC :|, ya know, that's what "hardcore" is all about, it's just that the GC wasn't a better gaming machine than the ps2 or even Xbox, just like the Wii isn't a better gaming machine than the ps360, only difference is nongamers are buying the Wii, while sony and microsoft are catering to the hardcore.

I agree the Wii isn't as Hardcore as the PS3/360, but it still has a hardcore community. For instance both Resident Evil games which are both M rated have sold over a million copies and Guitar Hero 3 for the Wii has as many online players as the 360 version.

So it seems as if were both right.:)

But I disagree as the Wii being a Party/Exercise Machine. The Wii's library consists more than just Party Games and Exercise games. And Wii Fit was an Exercise game because it had to show the Ballance Board's capabilties, and what better way than with an Exercise program (which consists of Mini-Games, which technically ARE games).

It's fun, and has games that people want to play.

Sure it doesn't have the ultra hardcore franchises that gameing elitist that visit messageboards and such care about, but it's got the games that most gamers want to play...

Face it, if your core enough to waste your time on SW's or fight over specs, number of lines of resolution or the amount of grass in GTAIV, then your one of the elite, and not a standard normal gamer who doesn't care about any of this stuff and doesn't know what franchies are going to which console two years in advance.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

Jaysonguy

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

Nice try though.

Ohhhhh so most of the Wii's sales are from Ebay sales?

Oh of course lol

So now casuals stay outside all night for a Wii but they also pay hundreds of dollars more then they have to for the Wii

Which kills the whole "The Wii sells because it's cheaper" argument

Are you pessimistic and a troll?

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

KOTORkicker

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

Nice try though.

Ohhhhh so most of the Wii's sales are from Ebay sales?

Oh of course lol

So now casuals stay outside all night for a Wii but they also pay hundreds of dollars more then they have to for the Wii

Which kills the whole "The Wii sells because it's cheaper" argument

Are you pessimistic and a troll?

I wouldn't argue with Jasonguy if I were you;).

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

Jaysonguy

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

Nice try though.

Ohhhhh so most of the Wii's sales are from Ebay sales?

Oh of course lol

So now casuals stay outside all night for a Wii but they also pay hundreds of dollars more then they have to for the Wii

Which kills the whole "The Wii sells because it's cheaper" argument

Nice try though, maybe this time your benighted views won't cloud your reasoning. :|

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

the Wii is being marketed for non-gamers and i don't think it's even in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.

KOTORkicker

So you still think that non gamers get up at 2am to camp out in the winter for a Wii?

Well, it's wrong but it's interesting

Nice try though.

Ohhhhh so most of the Wii's sales are from Ebay sales?

Oh of course lol

So now casuals stay outside all night for a Wii but they also pay hundreds of dollars more then they have to for the Wii

Which kills the whole "The Wii sells because it's cheaper" argument

Are you pessimistic and a troll?

Are you sure that's the word you want to use?