Is there anyone left that believes the Sony lies from E305?

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

mikasa

Just wait.

:oDual HDMI 1080p 120fps 4D with TEH CELL!ZinkOxide

Wow...simply amazing!

TC do you believe the 360 lead will be stolen by the wiiflashattackfina

i love this video...

Sony At E3

i love this video...

Sony At E3

kcm_117

yea that vid is my favorite too

You are speaking of deceit and you support Microsoft? The same company that flooded the market with faulty hardware? The same company that milks the PC community every three or four years with the same faulty windows? Tell me, how does self defeat actually feel?LOKI-RA

here are the E3 2005 lies

so funny , lol

You are speaking of deceit and you support Microsoft? The same company that flooded the market with faulty hardware? The same company that milks the PC community every three or four years with the same faulty windows? Tell me, how does self defeat actually feel?LOKI-RA

The PS1 says HELLO in a big way to your statement.

i love this video...

Sony At E3

kcm_117

LOL!And that was just the e306 lies. Sony'sE3 05 was like burger king--Home of the whopper.

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

mikasa

DO you still believe the 360 is $299 with a standard HDD and a TRUE HD gaming experience?

[QUOTE="kcm_117"]

i love this video...

Sony At E3

mikasa

LOL!And that was just the e306 lies. Sony'sE3 05 was like burger king--Home of the whopper.

scroll up i have e3 05

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

ZIMdoom

DO you still believe the 360 is $299 with a standard HDD and a TRUE HD gaming experience?

Huh? If you want to talk abou that start a thread and see how many respond.

So are you saying you still believe Sony's lies?

here are the E3 2005 lies

so funny , lol

kcm_117

omg seriously it does support up to 7 controllers or any 7bluetooth device... that video lost credit.

stupid fan boy

[QUOTE="kcm_117"]

here are the E3 2005 lies

so funny , lol

ngoniko

omg seriously it does support up to 7 controllers or any 7bluetooth device... that video lost credit.

stupid fan boy

Really? So the PS3 does have 2 HDMI ports and 3 ethernet ports? Wow! I might go buy one then.

Funny thing is my sig...says it all

2005...shame on you
2006....Shame on Sony
2007....I must be a cow (if I believe what they say).

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

mikasa

DO you still believe the 360 is $299 with a standard HDD and a TRUE HD gaming experience?

Huh? If you want to talk abou that start a thread and see how many respond.

So are you saying you still believe Sony's lies?

Why would I start a new thread? I thought the point of this one was the ignorance and hypocrisy of fanboys? You aim to bash people for believing what you claim are "lies" and yet you ignore non-Sony lies. Not to mentionyou haven't listed a "lie" how can I state whether or not I still believe in it.

i just have one question what did sony lie about. I keep hearing people say sony lied and i don't know what about.jessie5788

Basically, anything Sony says or does is labelled a lie by fanboys. They repeat it over and over so that ignorant non-gamers start to believe it also. Then later on they act like because it enough people have repeated it, it must be true.

People here have even taken comments from third party developers and called them "Sony lies" to prop up their SOny hatred. Basically, if I were to say right now that Sony will release 1,000 PS3 games by the end of the year...it would be called "more lies from Sony".

[QUOTE="ngoniko"][QUOTE="kcm_117"]

here are the E3 2005 lies

so funny , lol

mikasa

omg seriously it does support up to 7 controllers or any 7bluetooth device... that video lost credit.

stupid fan boy

Really? So the PS3 does have 2 HDMI ports and 3 ethernet ports? Wow! I might go buy one then.

Funny thing is my sig...says it all

2005...shame on you
2006....Shame on Sony
2007....I must be a cow (if I believe what they say).

Oh. Were weren't aware that hardware specs we %100 final. We also didn't read any of the news where Sony stated they were removing some of those features to lower costs.

Oh wait...

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

ZIMdoom

DO you still believe the 360 is $299 with a standard HDD and a TRUE HD gaming experience?

Huh? If you want to talk abou that start a thread and see how many respond.

So are you saying you still believe Sony's lies?

Why would I start a new thread? I thought the point of this one was the ignorance and hypocrisy of fanboys? You aim to bash people for believing what you claim are "lies" and yet you ignore non-Sony lies. Not to mentionyou haven't listed a "lie" how can I state whether or not I still believe in it.

Since when do two wrongs makea right? I'm just focussing on Sony at the moment. Got aproblem with that...then start your own thread focussing on who you want to focus on. I choose to focus on Sony because they are the leader in consoles and as a leader need to be held to the highest standard, but fall short of that standard far more than the underdogs.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="ngoniko"][QUOTE="kcm_117"]

here are the E3 2005 lies

so funny , lol

ZIMdoom

omg seriously it does support up to 7 controllers or any 7bluetooth device... that video lost credit.

stupid fan boy

Really? So the PS3 does have 2 HDMI ports and 3 ethernet ports? Wow! I might go buy one then.

Funny thing is my sig...says it all

2005...shame on you
2006....Shame on Sony
2007....I must be a cow (if I believe what they say).

Oh. Were weren't aware that hardware specs we %100 final. We also didn't read any of the news where Sony stated they were removing some of those features to lower costs.

Oh wait...

What about the lies at E3 O6 saying it was going to blow away all other systems? It can barely do what the 360 does and even then falls short on many aspects.

yeah this really is annoying. I couldn't get one answer on how sony lies. It just shows that fanboys have nothing really to say jessie5788

If you don't know you must have your head in the sand. Click on the two links to sony's e3 lies. You'll see them for yourself.

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

mikasa

Since when do two wrongs makea right? I'm just focussing on Sony at the moment. Got aproblem with that...then start your own thread focussing on who you want to focus on. I choose to focus on Sony because they are the leader in consoles and as a leader need to be held to the highest standard, but fall short of that standard far more than the underdogs.

mikasa

At least you can openly admit that (a) you are wrong for starting this thread, and (b) you hold double standards when it comes to Sony vs everyone else.

[QUOTE="jessie5788"]yeah this really is annoying. I couldn't get one answer on how sony lies. It just shows that fanboys have nothing really to say mikasa

If you don't know you must have your head in the sand. Click on the two links to sony's e3 lies. You'll see them for yourself.

the first video was stupid and so was the second. First of all some of the stuff did come true and if it didn't, so what!!! your going to abandoned it just because the ps3 was in development stage and the company decided to drop it. Get over it. Its been 7 months did you expect everything they said to come out so soon. Even if they don't come out what are you going to do cry. All your doing is wasting my time and your own with this waste of a post. When get my ps3 i'm going to enjoy it the online is still free thats no lie and by then good games will be out. thats all i need. Good day.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

[QUOTE="jessie5788"]yeah this really is annoying. I couldn't get one answer on how sony lies. It just shows that fanboys have nothing really to say jessie5788

If you don't know you must have your head in the sand. Click on the two links to sony's e3 lies. You'll see them for yourself.

the first video was stupid and so was the second. First of all some of the stuff did come true and if it didn't, so what!!! your going to abandoned it just because the ps3 was in development stage and the company decided to drop it. Get over it. Its been 7 months did you expect everything they said to come out so soon. Even if they don't come out what are you going to do cry. All your doing is wasting my time and your own with this waste of a post. When get my ps3 i'm going to enjoy it the online is still free thats no lie and by then good games will be out. thats all i need. Good day.

LoL! you said some of that stuff came true. Which means some did not! Which means they lied. And most of it did NOT come true. Hence why they were branded the liars of E3. it's just not me saying this...it's every non-sony fan on this forum. And even some of the sony fans say it.

Didnt MS lie about the existance of the Elite?

What about the lies at E3 O6 saying it was going to blow away all other systems? It can barely do what the 360 does and even then falls short on many aspects.

mikasa

Let me address your ignorance in two parts:

1) Did they give a timeline as to when it would "blow away all other systems?" Did they define what "blow away" means? Because I honestly believe that as time progresses, the PS3 will increase the graphics gap more and more. So in 4 years time, the PS3 may very well "blow away all other consoles." There is no way to know for certain what will happen until developers have had time to work and fully learn both piece of hardware.

You are being the liar for trying to get people to believe that Sony said or implied something they clearly didn't. YOU made assumptions and then you want everyone to hate sony because YOUR assumptions were false.

2) You then add a second lie of your own when you say that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 does. Last I remember reading, Oblivion and Rainbow Six BOTH had better graphics than the 360 version. This is despite the obvious hurdles a port has to overcome. So I fail to see how having better looking versions of games means, to you, that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 can do.

Second, every developer who has worked with both consoles has said the PS3 is more powerful. They have also said that it may cost too much or take too much time to access that power...but facts are facts and the fact is they say the PS3 is more powerful. And going back to point one...time is everything. You would have us believe that the PS3 should be maxed out and fully realized the first 7 months of its life. That is the most dishonest thing I've ever seen and you should be ashamed for encouraging and spreading ignorance. You would have everyone judge a console based purely on its first half year without any regard for growth or improvement.

Didnt MS lie about the existance of the Elite?

rockydog1111

The elite is real...

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

What about the lies at E3 O6 saying it was going to blow away all other systems? It can barely do what the 360 does and even then falls short on many aspects.

ZIMdoom

Let me address your ignorance in two parts:

1) Did they give a timeline as to when it would "blow away all other systems?" Did they define what "blow away" means? Because I honestly believe that as time progresses, the PS3 will increase the graphics gap more and more. So in 4 years time, the PS3 may very well "blow away all other consoles." There is no way to know for certain what will happen until developers have had time to work and fully learn both piece of hardware.

You are being the liar for trying to get people to believe that Sony said or implied something they clearly didn't. YOU made assumptions and then you want everyone to hate sony because YOUR assumptions were false.

2) You then add a second lie of your own when you say that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 does. Last I remember reading, Oblivion and Rainbow Six BOTH had better graphics than the 360 version. This is despite the obvious hurdles a port has to overcome. So I fail to see how having better looking versions of games means, to you, that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 can do.

Second, every developer who has worked with both consoles has said the PS3 is more powerful. They have also said that it may cost too much or take too much time to access that power...but facts are facts and the fact is they say the PS3 is more powerful. And going back to point one...time is everything. You would have us believe that the PS3 should be maxed out and fully realized the first 7 months of its life. That is the most dishonest thing I've ever seen and you should be ashamed for encouraging and spreading ignorance. You would have everyone judge a console based purely on its first half year without any regard for growth or improvement.

1) I see you still believe their lies
2) 2 games with a ton more dev time doesn't = blow away. Especially when all other games look better on 360 even games like VF5 which were supposed to take advantage of all that blow away PS3 power.
3) You're the only one apparently willing to defend sony's lies. Good for you.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

What about the lies at E3 O6 saying it was going to blow away all other systems? It can barely do what the 360 does and even then falls short on many aspects.

mikasa

Let me address your ignorance in two parts:

1) Did they give a timeline as to when it would "blow away all other systems?" Did they define what "blow away" means? Because I honestly believe that as time progresses, the PS3 will increase the graphics gap more and more. So in 4 years time, the PS3 may very well "blow away all other consoles." There is no way to know for certain what will happen until developers have had time to work and fully learn both piece of hardware.

You are being the liar for trying to get people to believe that Sony said or implied something they clearly didn't. YOU made assumptions and then you want everyone to hate sony because YOUR assumptions were false.

2) You then add a second lie of your own when you say that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 does. Last I remember reading, Oblivion and Rainbow Six BOTH had better graphics than the 360 version. This is despite the obvious hurdles a port has to overcome. So I fail to see how having better looking versions of games means, to you, that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 can do.

Second, every developer who has worked with both consoles has said the PS3 is more powerful. They have also said that it may cost too much or take too much time to access that power...but facts are facts and the fact is they say the PS3 is more powerful. And going back to point one...time is everything. You would have us believe that the PS3 should be maxed out and fully realized the first 7 months of its life. That is the most dishonest thing I've ever seen and you should be ashamed for encouraging and spreading ignorance. You would have everyone judge a console based purely on its first half year without any regard for growth or improvement.

1) I see you still believe their lies
2) 2 games with a ton more dev time doesn't = blow away. Especially when all other games look better on 360 even games like VF5 which were supposed to take advantage of all that blow away PS3 power.
3) You're the only one apparently willing to defend sony's lies. Good for you.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

What about the lies at E3 O6 saying it was going to blow away all other systems? It can barely do what the 360 does and even then falls short on many aspects.

mikasa

Let me address your ignorance in two parts:

1) Did they give a timeline as to when it would "blow away all other systems?" Did they define what "blow away" means? Because I honestly believe that as time progresses, the PS3 will increase the graphics gap more and more. So in 4 years time, the PS3 may very well "blow away all other consoles." There is no way to know for certain what will happen until developers have had time to work and fully learn both piece of hardware.

You are being the liar for trying to get people to believe that Sony said or implied something they clearly didn't. YOU made assumptions and then you want everyone to hate sony because YOUR assumptions were false.

2) You then add a second lie of your own when you say that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 does. Last I remember reading, Oblivion and Rainbow Six BOTH had better graphics than the 360 version. This is despite the obvious hurdles a port has to overcome. So I fail to see how having better looking versions of games means, to you, that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 can do.

Second, every developer who has worked with both consoles has said the PS3 is more powerful. They have also said that it may cost too much or take too much time to access that power...but facts are facts and the fact is they say the PS3 is more powerful. And going back to point one...time is everything. You would have us believe that the PS3 should be maxed out and fully realized the first 7 months of its life. That is the most dishonest thing I've ever seen and you should be ashamed for encouraging and spreading ignorance. You would have everyone judge a console based purely on its first half year without any regard for growth or improvement.

1) I see you still believe their lies
2) 2 games with a ton more dev time doesn't = blow away. Especially when all other games look better on 360 even games like VF5 which were supposed to take advantage of all that blow away PS3 power.
3) You're the only one apparently willing to defend sony's lies. Good for you.

If you still believe the lies from E305...please let me know. I'd like to know why (and get a good laugh in the process).

mikasa

I do because Sony told me to.:|

:oDual HDMI 1080p 120fps 4D with TEH CELL!ZinkOxide

as far as im aware 4d isnt a lie.

if im correct 4d includes time and the ps3 can do things in realtime so that to me says 4d.

well that killzone vid was a lie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVAVdF8HLc

i just have one question what did sony lie about. I keep hearing people say sony lied and i don't know what about.jessie5788

Watch the videos.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

What about the lies at E3 O6 saying it was going to blow away all other systems? It can barely do what the 360 does and even then falls short on many aspects.

mikasa

Let me address your ignorance in two parts:

1) Did they give a timeline as to when it would "blow away all other systems?" Did they define what "blow away" means? Because I honestly believe that as time progresses, the PS3 will increase the graphics gap more and more. So in 4 years time, the PS3 may very well "blow away all other consoles." There is no way to know for certain what will happen until developers have had time to work and fully learn both piece of hardware.

You are being the liar for trying to get people to believe that Sony said or implied something they clearly didn't. YOU made assumptions and then you want everyone to hate sony because YOUR assumptions were false.

2) You then add a second lie of your own when you say that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 does. Last I remember reading, Oblivion and Rainbow Six BOTH had better graphics than the 360 version. This is despite the obvious hurdles a port has to overcome. So I fail to see how having better looking versions of games means, to you, that the PS3 can barely do what the 360 can do.

Second, every developer who has worked with both consoles has said the PS3 is more powerful. They have also said that it may cost too much or take too much time to access that power...but facts are facts and the fact is they say the PS3 is more powerful. And going back to point one...time is everything. You would have us believe that the PS3 should be maxed out and fully realized the first 7 months of its life. That is the most dishonest thing I've ever seen and you should be ashamed for encouraging and spreading ignorance. You would have everyone judge a console based purely on its first half year without any regard for growth or improvement.

1) I see you still believe their lies
2) 2 games with a ton more dev time doesn't = blow away. Especially when all other games look better on 360 even games like VF5 which were supposed to take advantage of all that blow away PS3 power.
3) You're the only one apparently willing to defend sony's lies. Good for you.

1) Again...you have not provided any lies from Sony and therefore I can not say whether I believe them or not. You have, however, provided a number of lies of your own...and feel no shame in that.

2) Oh...so Sony is a liar, in your opinion, not ONLY because they didn't max out the console right at launch, but because they have not lived up to whatever definition of "blown away" you have built up? You, who has already admitted to having a double standard when it comes to Sony? If you are going to set a bar so high that Sony can never jump over it...then it is intellectually dishonest for you to hate SOny when they don't.

3) I defend nothing. I have presented clear, rational and logical arguements. If you provide me with an actual lie from Sony, I will criticize Sony for it. You have not done so and the burden of proof is on you and any other fanboy who is determined to hold double-standards for companies.

[QUOTE="jessie5788"]i just have one question what did sony lie about. I keep hearing people say sony lied and i don't know what about.squirrel337

Watch the videos.

So you have nothing to say for yourself? Can you think for yourself and make up your own mind, or do you just believe whatever you see repeated on teh interweb?

[sarcasm]I definately do. Sony is the most honest company in existence. The PS3 is suppose to be twice as strong as the 360 and it obviously is. Compare the games and it's a clear tell that PS3's graphis are AT LEAST twice as good as the 360's.[/sarcasm]1stCommando

Using your logic, it is a lie that ferrari's are faster than Civics...because I saw a parked ferrari but somebody driving a civic.

So long as I don't have to think or open my eyes when a ferrari is in motion, my delusional thinking can hold.