Is this crap true that M$ cant talk about there gpu ..linky inside

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#51 PCGamingIsOver
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DF exposed!!!

Theoretical max bandwidth is 204 GB/s, not 192 GB/s like DF said.

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#52 FoxbatAlpha
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DF exposed!!!

Theoretical max bandwidth is 204 GB/s, not 192 GB/s like DF said.

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Who's DF? And is this from hotchips?
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#53 XBOunity
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XBox One SOC has a CPU, GPU, and 15 special-purpose processors. Total of 47MB of storage on-chip. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...39785453346816

Hot Chips: At 363mm2 with over 5b transistors the Xbox One SoC designed by Microsoft and AMD is a very complex SoC.

https://twitter.com/TekStrategist/st...41324871946240

Audio offload processor in XBox One SoC are "completely designed by Microsoft" and have "more than a CPU core worth of processing" #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...41578639929345

XBox One CPU has eight "modified" AMD Jaguar x86-64 cores, in two clusters of four cores. Modifiations to memory sharing & bandwidth. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...40673618182144

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#54 PCGamingIsOver
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[QUOTE="PCGamingIsOver"]

DF exposed!!!

Theoretical max bandwidth is 204 GB/s, not 192 GB/s like DF said.

FoxbatAlpha

Who's DF? And is this from hotchips?

Digital Foundry.

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#55 XBOunity
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all from hot chips and yes it looks like 204 theortical esram output, maybe the number got bumped up by the overclock?   anyway wow at all the info coming out, looks like hUMA or a solution to hUMA has also been announced.   cows make sure you come in and cry about this.  

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#56 PCGamingIsOver
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XBox One SOC has a CPU, GPU, and 15 special-purpose processors. Total of 47MB of storage on-chip. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...39785453346816

Hot Chips: At 363mm2 with over 5b transistors the Xbox One SoC designed by Microsoft and AMD is a very complex SoC.

https://twitter.com/TekStrategist/st...41324871946240

Audio offload processor in XBox One SoC are "completely designed by Microsoft" and have "more than a CPU core worth of processing" #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...41578639929345

XBox One CPU has eight "modified" AMD Jaguar x86-64 cores, in two clusters of four cores. Modifiations to memory sharing & bandwidth. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...40673618182144

XBOunity

Yeah, nothing interesting.

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XBox One SOC has a CPU, GPU, and 15 special-purpose processors. Total of 47MB of storage on-chip. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...39785453346816

Hot Chips: At 363mm2 with over 5b transistors the Xbox One SoC designed by Microsoft and AMD is a very complex SoC.

https://twitter.com/TekStrategist/st...41324871946240

Audio offload processor in XBox One SoC are "completely designed by Microsoft" and have "more than a CPU core worth of processing" #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...41578639929345

XBox One CPU has eight "modified" AMD Jaguar x86-64 cores, in two clusters of four cores. Modifiations to memory sharing & bandwidth. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...40673618182144

XBOunity

Umm, OK. Nothing so far about the GPU not sucking balls as it currently does.

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#58 XBOunity
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coherency HSA compliant

https://twitter.com/rickbmerritt/sta...42121777541120

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#59 PCGamingIsOver
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:lol:

And it's over. Nothing. No 9 TF GPU, no GCN 2.0... :lol:

Yeah, the PS4 is a lot stronger than the Xbox ONE. Time to cancel your preorders, lemmings. :lol:

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#60 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

XBox One SOC has a CPU, GPU, and 15 special-purpose processors. Total of 47MB of storage on-chip. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...39785453346816

Hot Chips: At 363mm2 with over 5b transistors the Xbox One SoC designed by Microsoft and AMD is a very complex SoC.

https://twitter.com/TekStrategist/st...41324871946240

Audio offload processor in XBox One SoC are "completely designed by Microsoft" and have "more than a CPU core worth of processing" #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...41578639929345

XBox One CPU has eight "modified" AMD Jaguar x86-64 cores, in two clusters of four cores. Modifiations to memory sharing & bandwidth. #HC25

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Bowers/st...40673618182144

 

Wickerman777

Umm, OK. Nothing so far about the GPU not sucking balls as it currently does.

well alot of cool info, the SOC has a CPU and GPU inside of it, and yes the AUDIO chip is abosultely a beast and superior to PS4's.    Dont hate me cause the info looks good for Microsoft, looks like they made a very complex build with the SOC and SHAPE.   Plus dat 204 gb's confirmed ohhhh yeah 

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#61 Wickerman777
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coherency HSA compliant

https://twitter.com/rickbmerritt/sta...42121777541120

XBOunity

Do we get more than 12 CUs? Do we get more than 1.3 tflops? If not then on a hardware level it still sucks.

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#62 PCGamingIsOver
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

coherency HSA compliant

https://twitter.com/rickbmerritt/sta...42121777541120

Wickerman777

Do we get more than 12 CUs? Do we get more than 1.3 tflops? If not then on a hardware level it still sucks.

I doubt the ONE's HSA will be utilized as effectively as PS4's HSA solution.

As long as the CPU can't access the eSRAM, the ONE's HSA solution will be very inferior to the PS4's.

Oh yes, and the CPU is vanilla Jaguar.

2 mb per cluster. :lol:

What happened to 2015-level AMD CPU? :lol:

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#64 XBOunity
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so with a theoritical of 204.7 gb on the output for the eSRAM, and another 11mb on top of the 32mb of cache, looks like they do have a very robust solution for bandwidth, just more complex to code for.    Also the Audio chip looks like it will offset the CPU of audio functions, so overall a good showing at the hotchips, not the 9TF stuff, but interesting stuff indeed.    dat SOC looking great.

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#65 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="Wickerman777"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

coherency HSA compliant

https://twitter.com/rickbmerritt/sta...42121777541120

PCGamingIsOver

Do we get more than 12 CUs? Do we get more than 1.3 tflops? If not then on a hardware level it still sucks.

I doubt the ONE's HSA will be utilized as effectively as PS4's HSA solution.

As long as the CPU can't access the eSRAM, the ONE's HSA solution will be very inferior to the PS4's.

Oh yes, and the CPU is vanilla Jaguar.

2 mb per cluster. :lol:

What happened to 2015-level AMD CPU? :lol:

lol now cows are upset that X1 does have Huma and are saying this  lol,   what a pathetic bunch.

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#66 tormentos
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In regards to your "logical person" remark. U guess we will just have to wait and see. That said do think that Sony will be able to offer 64 players online for BF4?FoxbatAlpha

 

For god sake number of players at once has noting to do with power and more to do with design choices,Resistance 2 on PS3 supported 60 players online no xbox 360 game go that high,and that include BF3 on PS3 that only support 24 players,by the way while BF3 on PS3 is sub HD is not full 720P,Resistance 2 is 720p native.

 

That should kill the whole argument about number of players at once.

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lol now cows are upset that X1 does have Huma and are saying this lol,what a pathetic bunch.

XBOunity

 

DAT CPU Can't SEE the ESRAM...  hUMA aborted...:lol:

Comense half baked HSA...:lol:

AMD let the cat out of the bag..:lol:

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#68 FoxbatAlpha
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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] In regards to your "logical person" remark. U guess we will just have to wait and see. That said do think that Sony will be able to offer 64 players online for BF4?tormentos

 

For god sake number of players at once has noting to do with power and more to do with design choices,Resistance 2 on PS3 supported 60 players online no xbox 360 game go that high,and that include BF3 on PS3 that only support 24 players,by the way while BF3 on PS3 is sub HD is not full 720P,Resistance 2 is 720p native.

 

That should kill the whole argument about number of players at once.

Yes I know this. I am pointing out another lie from Sony. If they can't do 64 players this gen what makes you think they can do it on the PS4? MS has upgraded to tons of dedicated servers. Sony updated nothing to do this. Good God man!
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#69 remiks00
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I don't understand any of that tech jargon on his blog. Most of it reminds of "Sony Defense Force". He's clearly "Xbox Defense Force". Are any of the tech claims he's made true at all? it's confusing as hell..
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#70 Guy_Brohski
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:lol:

And it's over. Nothing. No 9 TF GPU, no GCN 2.0... :lol:

Yeah, the PS4 is a lot stronger than the Xbox ONE. Time to cancel your preorders, lemmings. :lol:

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Sure the PS4 is "a lot stronger", but Forza 5 wins best graphics at E3? The truth is that we won't see much difference if any in games, and XB1 will have DX11.2.