Is Uncharted proof that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360?

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#1 Baurus_1
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IMO, Uncharted looks better than any 360 game out right now. I have a 360, and I don't think any 360 game matches Uncharted in graphics. So has the power of the PS3 finally been unlocked?
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#2 AIH_PSP
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IMO, it does prove PS3 is more powerful because Naughty Dog (the creators) said that it only uses 30% of the PS3's power. And even though that it's only 30%, it looks better than every other game out there sans Crysis and a few other PC games.

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#3 flatline711
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I thought we all knew the PS3 was more powerful than the 360. At least in terms of pure processing power.
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#5 Marth6781
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Sadly, uncharted is possible on the 360, some cuts would have to be made b/c of disc space, but its possible.
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#6 Baurus_1
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Sadly, uncharted is possible on the 360, some cuts would have to be made b/c of disc space, but its possible.Marth6781

So a Blu-ray disc is needed for Uncharted?

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#7 Sony_92
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Sadly, uncharted is possible on the 360, some cuts would have to be made b/c of disc space, but its possible.Baurus_1

So a Blu-ray disc is needed for Uncharted?

yes

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#8 Pro_wrestler
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my poop is more powerful today rather than yesterday.septicvirus

Stop eating jalepenos! One of a few foods that I know that goes in hot and comes out hot.

On topic; I disagree, the graphics are way overrated. It has some nice enviornments but its nothing impressive since Gears of War still looks just as good, especially in terms of character models.

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#9 King_of_Sorrow
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I knew all alone when devs after devs was saying PS3 is the most powerful console. Not 1 dev said Xbox360 was. Some would say equal due to the fact the PS3 was hard to code for. PC devs are cry-babys.

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#10 OhSnapitz
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The PS3 has always been considered more powerful however up until recently it wasn't proving it.. The only problem is these powerful games aren't lightyears ahead of the 360's software and the games on the 360 have scored/sold better. I really think the PS3 has the potential to blow peoples socks off but they honestly need to start cranking out worth while games...
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#11 saolin323
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No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

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#12 King_of_Sorrow
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No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

saolin323

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

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#13 penguino726
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it's already a known fact that the ps3 is more powerful than the 360, but uncharted is not proof of that since it could have been done on the 360. but the ps3 is absolutely more powerful than the 360... that power just hasn't been used quite yet:)
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This just shows it can run gears and make it more colorfull.
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#15 flatline711
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

King_of_Sorrow

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

I have to agree. As great and beautiful as AC is, it just can't compare to Uncharted. Maybe in terms of animations but not in terms of overall detail

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Well, seeing as neither console has reached it's limit I would say no. I'm positive that there isn't a game that can't be done on either console yet. This does not include PC games such as Crysis, just talking console games.
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#17 King_of_Sorrow
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Well, seeing as neither console has reached it's limit I would say no. I'm positive that there isn't a game that can't be done on either console yet.Ibacai

I 100% agree with you. Actually, the talk about graphic king should start towards the end of a console life. That's when the real games come out.

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#18 flatline711
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, seeing as neither console has reached it's limit I would say no. I'm positive that there isn't a game that can't be done on either console yet.King_of_Sorrow

I 100% agree with you. Actually, the talk about graphic king should start towards the end of a console life. That's when the real games come out.

Look at God of War II. Did you ever expect something to look that amazing on the PS2? Just imagine what games will look like at the end of this gen.

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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

King_of_Sorrow

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

So you've played it and understand that the texture pop-in is a result of the Unreal 3 Engine, not the game itself? Oh and as for the framerate, there is no problem with it. ;).
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#20 King_of_Sorrow
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[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, seeing as neither console has reached it's limit I would say no. I'm positive that there isn't a game that can't be done on either console yet.flatline711

I 100% agree with you. Actually, the talk about graphic king should start towards the end of a console life. That's when the real games come out.

Look at God of War II. Did you ever expect something to look that amazing on the PS2? Just imagine what games will look like at the end of this gen.

It happens on every console. The best looking games comes at the end, yet here we are today trying to crown the graphic king only 2 years in this gen.

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#21 King_of_Sorrow
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[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

PapaJohn24

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

So you've played it and understand that the texture pop-in is a result of the Unreal 3 Engine, not the game itself? Oh and as for the framerate, there is no problem with it. ;).

Don't make this into a Mass Effect thread. It flopped, get over it.

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#22 Vis-a-Vis
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Not once has the console with the best graphics won, interesting fact.

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#23 -Ninja_Dog-
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You cows can not self proclaim something as being the best.

And other than the cows here, no reviewer as ever said or written "uncharted has the best console graphics at this time".

Not a one, so please stop with the propaganda.

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#24 Not-A-Stalker
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Uncharted is the best looking console game.

But it does not prove the PS3 is more powerful. The 360 had the best graphical game for the past year, but everyone knew the PS3 was still more powerful (besides those crazy lems).

The PS3 is the more powerful machine, thats a fact. It doesn't need to be proven further than showing a spec sheet...

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#25 Ibacai
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You cows can not self proclaim something as being the best.

And other than the cows here, no reviewer as ever said or written "uncharted has the best console graphics at this time".

Not a one, so please stop with the propaganda.

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http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=823594 "We've waited a while for a PlayStation 3 game that truly separates itself from Xbox 360 software and we finally have it. Drake's Fortune is easily the best-looking console game on the market." Gametrailers did.
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#26 Chickity_China
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Why does it need proving? Isn't it a known fact anyways?
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#27 -Ninja_Dog-
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

You cows can not self proclaim something as being the best.

And other than the cows here, no reviewer as ever said or written "uncharted has the best console graphics at this time".

Not a one, so please stop with the propaganda.

Ibacai

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=823594 "We've waited a while for a PlayStation 3 game that truly separates itself from Xbox 360 software and we finally have it. Drake's Fortune is easily the best-looking console game on the market." Gametrailers did.

Gametrailers? Isn't that same people that gave Mass Effect a 9.6 !

They are nuts.

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This thread needs more screenshot comparisons where the fanboy will post bullshots or PC versions of the game on their console and horrible 2 year old screenshots of the other game.
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

You cows can not self proclaim something as being the best.

And other than the cows here, no reviewer as ever said or written "uncharted has the best console graphics at this time".

Not a one, so please stop with the propaganda.

Ibacai

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=823594 "We've waited a while for a PlayStation 3 game that truly separates itself from Xbox 360 software and we finally have it. Drake's Fortune is easily the best-looking console game on the market." Gametrailers did.

I'm curious, why do you have that "No fanboy is safe" GUFU sticker in your sig? Your basically saying "I'm not safe." Why is that?

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#30 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]You cows can not self proclaim something as being the best. And other than the cows here, no reviewer as ever said or written "uncharted has the best console graphics at this time". Not a one, so please stop with the propaganda.

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=823594 "We've waited a while for a PlayStation 3 game that truly separates itself from Xbox 360 software and we finally have it. Drake's Fortune is easily the best-looking console game on the market." Gametrailers did.

Gametrailers? Isn't that same people that gave Mass Effect a 9.6 ! They are nuts.

You were wrong and now you are trying to discredit them in a roundabout way. Good job. ;)
I'm curious, why do you have that "No fanboy is safe" GUFU sticker in your sig? Your basically saying "I'm not safe." Why is that?Pro_wrestler
It's the GUFU union. Against fanboys and blatant idiocy.
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#31 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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I thought we all knew the PS3 was more powerful than the 360. At least in terms of pure processing power.flatline711
and considering the cell now does graphics in future games and has proved more powerful than a 8800GTXi think enough has been said on this topic... lol moving on
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#32 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="flatline711"]I thought we all knew the PS3 was more powerful than the 360. At least in terms of pure processing power.JAMES_L_BROOKS
and considering the cell now does graphics in future games and has proved more powerful than a 8800GTXi think enough has been said on this topic... lol moving on

More powerful then a 8800GTX?? Yeah, I'd like to see some proof of that. And just because it's possible doesn't mean it's feasible for developers.
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I'll have to agree that Uncharted is the best looking console game for any system to date.
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#34 saolin323
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[QUOTE="PapaJohn24"][QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

King_of_Sorrow

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

So you've played it and understand that the texture pop-in is a result of the Unreal 3 Engine, not the game itself? Oh and as for the framerate, there is no problem with it. ;).

Don't make this into a Mass Effect thread. It flopped, get over it.

Mass Effect = 8.5

How much did Drake get anyway ?

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#35 saolin323
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Uncharted is the best looking console game.

But it does not prove the PS3 is more powerful. The 360 had the best graphical game for the past year, but everyone knew the PS3 was still more powerful (besides those crazy lems).

The PS3 is the more powerful machine, thats a fact. It doesn't need to be proven further than showing a spec sheet...

Not-A-Stalker

Actually Mass Effect has as good textures, FAR better lighting, shaders, NPC/hero models/shaders/textures, better shadows, better water and VASTLY better world design and huge spaces, that means it pushes like 10-20x the stuff Drake pushes, making PS3 look like really behind 360 IMO, at least for now

Also the PS3 GPU, is old gen comparing to 360 one, so it is obvious will have the best graphics by far, and a HUGE world due to more ram

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#36 Truth_Hurts_U
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They could easily do it on 360... They would just have to require the use of the HDD is all.

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#37 TREAL_Since
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It maybe possible on 360. I think we will continue to see games that look better on the PS3. It just takes time to master the new tech.

And yes, Uncharted is the best looking console game to date.

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#38 krunkfu2
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you are a noc

the PS3 has always been more powerful than the 360

yet just because you're super strong doesn't mean you know how to fight

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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

Uncharted is the best looking console game.

But it does not prove the PS3 is more powerful. The 360 had the best graphical game for the past year, but everyone knew the PS3 was still more powerful (besides those crazy lems).

The PS3 is the more powerful machine, thats a fact. It doesn't need to be proven further than showing a spec sheet...

saolin323

Actually Mass Effect has as good textures, FAR better lighting, shaders, NPC/hero models/shaders/textures, better shadows, better water and VASTLY better world design and huge spaces, that means it pushes like 10-20x the stuff Drake pushes, making PS3 look like really behind 360 IMO, at least for now

Also the PS3 GPU, is old gen comparing to 360 one, so it is obvious will have the best graphics by far, and a HUGE world due to more ram

Have you played Uncharted on an HDTV? I have both and can tell you that ME looks great, but isn't as impressive as Uncharted.

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#40 Eltroz
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I knew all alone when devs after devs was saying PS3 is the most powerful console. Not 1 dev said Xbox360 was. Some would say equal due to the fact the PS3 was hard to code for. PC devs are cry-babys.

King_of_Sorrow

Gabe Bewell Head of Valve ( Half-Life, Counter Strike )

Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created", Newell told Edge magazine.

"I don't think they're going to make money off their box. I don't think it's a good solution."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=173540

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"We've got our PlayStation 3 dev kits, and we've got our code compiling on it. I do intend to do a simultaneous release on it. But the honest truth is that Microsoft dev tools are so much better than Sony's," said Carmack. "I think the decision to use an asymmetric CPU by Sony was a wrong one. There are aspects that could make it a winning decision, but they're not helpful to the developers."

http://www.videogamer.com/news/10-01-2007-4456.html

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Fill rate is one of the primary ways to measure graphics performance - in essence, it's a number describing how many pixel operations you can perform. The fill rate on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, meaning that games either have to run at lower resolution or use simpler shader effects to achieve the same performance. Additionally, the shader processing on the ps3 is significantly slower than on the 360, which means that a normal map takes more fill rate to draw on the ps3 than it does on the 360. And I'm not talking about small differences here, we're talking roughly half the pixel pushing power.

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html

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#41 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

King_of_Sorrow

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

I literally get sick from playing ME...the frame rate is so horrible. I cant play any low FPS game for that long...

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#42 lt-rickhunter
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[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

PapaJohn24

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

So you've played it and understand that the texture pop-in is a result of the Unreal 3 Engine, not the game itself? Oh and as for the framerate, there is no problem with it. ;).

weird, gears of war didnt have frame rate issues, rb6 didnt have frame rate issues.
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#43 toxicmog
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

King_of_Sorrow

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

and so will UT3. Well texture problems anycase...the engine is rubbish.

AC renders out much more than uncharted at any one time, and looks more realistic with an even more epic draw distance. Not to mention the ammount of triangles on screen at ayone time combined with the fluid animations.

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#44 leviathan91
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Yes, Uncharted did look a bit better than all the 360 games out right now; however, a 360 game will look better than a PS3 game, and then a vice-versa. It doesn't really portray that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 unless a PS3 game does something radically amazing and brilliant that can't be done on the 360 like how Crysis can't be done on the 360 or PS3. I doubt it will happen but who knows?

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#45 jbz7890
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Gears of War is still the best looking console game (i really hate to admit it, but its true). So Uncharted doesn't prove anything.
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#46 toxicmog
Member since 2006 • 6355 Posts
[QUOTE="PapaJohn24"][QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

lt-rickhunter

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

So you've played it and understand that the texture pop-in is a result of the Unreal 3 Engine, not the game itself? Oh and as for the framerate, there is no problem with it. ;).

weird, gears of war didnt have frame rate issues, rb6 didnt have frame rate issues.

he said texture popin...

not framerate.

Gears suffers fomr it, alot of people have noticed that. I have only seen it at the start of levels in vegas.

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#47 thirstychainsaw
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[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

zero_snake99

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

I literally get sick from playing ME...the frame rate is so horrible. I cant play any low FPS game for that long...

Framerate is horrible? It does drop but never does it make the game unplayable, atleast for me.

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#48 leviathan91
Member since 2007 • 7763 Posts
[QUOTE="lt-rickhunter"][QUOTE="PapaJohn24"][QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, because both Mass Effect and Assassins do far better graphics and a world 100x bigger too, and Assassins is confirmed by a devleoper to run best on 360, which i can confirm too

So, no, Drake is the 8/10 game we all know from this site

toxicmog

Mass Effect has texture problems and frame rate dropping. So, no Mass Effect is garbage when it comes to graphics. Assassins Creed doesn't look better than Uncharted.

So you've played it and understand that the texture pop-in is a result of the Unreal 3 Engine, not the game itself? Oh and as for the framerate, there is no problem with it. ;).

weird, gears of war didnt have frame rate issues, rb6 didnt have frame rate issues.

he said texture popin...

not framerate.

Gears suffers fomr it, alot of people have noticed that. I have only seen it at the start of levels in vegas.

Gears and Uncharted texture pop-ups weren't so bad. It usually comes out once you start a mission. From there, no texture pop-ups. Also, I don't know what's so bad about texture pop-ups unless they're serious to the extent that they last for more than 10 seconds.

As for Mass Effect, I can't comment on that but from what I heard, it has some nasty framerate issues. Personally, I more worried about that.

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#50 Medic_B
Member since 2005 • 3375 Posts
No beacuse Mass Effect puts Uncharted to shame so does Bioshock