Isn't 8GBs of RAM a bit excessive?

I'm sure they could get by with less, but mroe ram is always better.  Even if there is a bottleneck somewhere else, it will only be a bottleneck for some developer at any given time.

If anything, removing ram as a potential bottleneck is a good thing.

I'm sure they could get by with less, but mroe ram is always better.  Even if there is a bottleneck somewhere else, it will only be a bottleneck for some developer at any given time.

 

If anything, removing ram as a potential bottleneck is a good thing.

Pug-Nasty

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I'm sure they could get by with less, but mroe ram is always better.  Even if there is a bottleneck somewhere else, it will only be a bottleneck for some developer at any given time.

 

If anything, removing ram as a potential bottleneck is a good thing.

ShadowriverUB

Of course RAM can be a bottleneck.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Yes. If the next MS system has more than 8 you can expect Hermits and Cows to making even more threads on this.XBoxgamer555

Understanding tech..:P. We have jobs too you know not related to tech and lots of other things in life to be engaged in. Do u think we cant install a game or update drivers. What else would be required besides checking the prices of pc parts and build a lousy pc its like lego. Yes we can check reviews of cards/cpu and choose the better alternative for our needs depending on budget. What else do hermits think they know. Downplaying something is easy I can do it too.

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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] :shock: Why would hermits care what's in the next microsoft console? I mean really, us hermits are sitting on the sidelines laughing at the stupidy coming from console gamers over their new consoles. I am loving all this DDR5 crap you console gamers are posting. Just goes to prove what people say about console gamers.....they are ignorant as fnck when it cones to tech and actually understanding it. But hell isn't that why they are on console instead of PC in the first place? AmazonTreeBoa

Understanding tech..:P. We have jobs too you know not related to tech and lots of other things in life to be engaged in. Do u think we cant install a game or update drivers. What else would be required besides checking the prices of pc parts and build a lousy pc its like lego. Yes we can check reviews of cards/cpu and choose the better alternative for our needs depending on budget. What else do hermits think they know. Downplaying something is easy I can do it too.

It properly just kids. I wouldnt worry too much about that.

If the PS4 is expected to last a long time it needs as much ram as possible.

In this case sony is sharing the ram so they can get the chips cheaper. APU does not have its own video memory there for must use system memory thats why it has ddr5 ram. But this one they dont have to put to serperate chips on ps4 making it more expensive because the gpu will use dedicated ram and need another chip on the board.

whoa, at first people were b*tching that consoles were weak but now that their stronger its to much? loool, gamers

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I hope pc gets gddr5 ram soon. Cant wait to upgrade.

loosingENDS

They already do, have done for years atleast as far as the GPUs are concerned. Next for system RAM will be DDR4 this year.

PC is far behind, does not use unified ram and its main ram is slow

PS4 is the future, why do you think PS4 games look 10 generations better than Crysis 3 maxed ?

The problem is that the graphics are shown only in exlusives, since PC is holding PS4 multipltform games graphics way back

I was unaware of the existence of conclusive ingame videos demonstrating PS4s graphical capabilities...

I'm not sure. I'd expect to see a native transition to a fully-functional XMB, whilst still-playing plus a multitude of other potential features.

It would had been perfect for 4kres.

no not at all, maybe 16 is, or 12, like if MS came out with say 12GB of RAM it would be stupid and over kill. Right now 8 is perfect.

Dishonored's lead level designer labels PS4's 8GB RAM "a joy"
"The main problem was memory."

Isn't it 8GBs of RAM split between videocard and CPU? That's not really all that much RAM.Mcspanky37

in 2016, the standard for gamers will be 16gb ram...soo no.

It has to share the RAM with the GPU and it's going to be doing video compression in the background among other tasks.

ActionRemix

Wouldn't 4GBs be good enough? I'd imagine the PS4 would run into bottlenecking issues that would prevent it from being able to effectively utilize all of that RAM, when the rest of the PS4's specs are mid-range at best. It would be like purchasing a 680 GTX when your CPU only runs at 3.0GHz.

nekrothing

Next-gen PC is going to get GDDR5M SODIMMs** (slot compatible with DDR4) for system memory and GDDR6 for VRAM.

**JEDEC leaked the new laptop SODIMM standard. I would assume the desktop PC would get it's own GDDR5 DIMMs.

Fail thread.

Lets say a game needs 4GB of ram and PS4 only has 4GB. With the OS and maybe something else eating some of it up it wouldn't have 4 full GB for the game.

8GB is perfect. No problem with games that will require 5-6GB. Use what you need bro xD

Isn't it 8GBs of RAM split between videocard and CPU? That's not really all that much RAM.Mcspanky37

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]Isn't it 8GBs of RAM split between videocard and CPU? That's not really all that much RAM.tormentos

Right now it's not going to get taken advantage of until at least three years from now and good developer teams start on their second or maybe even third project for the console and in 5 years time who knows we might see devs cutting corners to fit their big ideas onto the console so I'd have to say the amount that of ram is adequate and right on the money but not excessive.

over a slow ass DDR3 bandwidth.tormentos

I feel people are still misunderstanding what he is saying. If you went and put 8GB of RAM in a GeForce 7800 (the card the PS3's GPU is based on) it's still going benchmark almost exactly same as a 512MB model on any game. Unless nvidia and ATI are putting way too little RAM in their current cards 8GB seems excessive (though not all of that is used on graphics) for a card with about the performance level of a 580. I would say about 1.5-2Gb is about right for a card with that performance which leaves 6-6.5GB for the OS and system RAM in the PS4. It seems excessive but then again every Sony console since the PS1 seems to have something strange about it's design that turns out to be a waste of their money in terms of real world performance. It wouldn't be a Sony console without something like this.

Strakha

lol if funny watching consolites talk about internal Specs, as if they even have a clue what it all mean.FinalFighters

yet when it comes to PC gaming they say it's too hard

[QUOTE="FinalFighters"]lol if funny watching consolites talk about internal Specs, as if they even have a clue what it all mean.NoodleFighter

yet when it comes to PC gaming they say it's too hard

[QUOTE="FinalFighters"]lol if funny watching consolites talk about internal Specs, as if they even have a clue what it all mean.NoodleFighter

yet when it comes to PC gaming they say it's too hard

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]Isn't it 8GBs of RAM split between videocard and CPU? That's not really all that much RAM.tormentos

hells no it's not,

i have cried about consoles being ram starved for the last 15 years.

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]Isn't it 8GBs of RAM split between videocard and CPU? That's not really all that much RAM.tormentos

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]Isn't it 8GBs of RAM split between videocard and CPU? That's not really all that much RAM.kraken2109