Isn't it ironic how the PS3 went from having no games to the only AAAAE rank

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#51 X_CAPCOM_X
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="Frexie"]

Its one thing for GameSpot to overrate a game, its a whole new story when the cows are not only trying to run with it, but overblowing it to the point that is it the PS3's savior and is magically going to compensate for PS3's mediocre showing since the day it launched:|

It's just one game. A ten you say, well, let me spin the logic around since you guys loved doing it to me: A ten is supposedly "Prime", not "Perfect". Everything from Framerate issues and graphical rough-spots, to the slightly above-average online at best (No PSN Integrated ID? Paying for Character slots?), MGS4 has as many flaws as the next AAA game. Metacritic & GR have it ranked at below 95%, so GS is one of the several major publications that conviently overrated it.

jlh47



Wow. Go read the review here. Then go read every review that gave this game a good score.

Do you really think it's worth it to take a whole point off for some bad textures in a few areas? Of course, 10 does not mean perfect, but there is little that could be improved in this game. That's why it's a 10 on almost every credible review site and magazine.

Also your sig and your opening statement bring light to your actual motives. You've never really played it, have you? You just hate the "painstation 3" just like gamegirls.com and eurogamer.

well since i spent almost exactly to the minute watching cutscenes as i was actually playing the game, i have to treat it like a movie in some respects and some of the scenes could have been a lot better. it didn't deserve a 10, a 9.5 definitely, but not a 10.



I don't think that you've played it, also. PM me your emblems if you did complete it.

i borrowed a ps3 from my friend and bought mgs4 cause i love the series.

spoilers.

[big spoiler was here]

btw how do you send people messages on the ps3? not used to it yet.

Go to create message and type in the PSN you want to send it to. It's easier if they are on your friends list, because you can just click their name and click create message, or you can check all of the friends you want to send it to. Add PSN: Vampire_Saviour, I can help you out.

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k will do i'm at work right now and it's about 730 here. i get off at 8 so i'll be home by 9. my name is warfighter on psn.
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#53 gohan_3
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I dont like MGS, the guy feels stiff, and its got a lot of things in it i dont like, the game was all hype, i'd rather play assassins creed than MGS4, one AAAA doesnt mean much, its not like it being AAAA means its so much better than a AAA game, all opions dude,
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#54 Quofan
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Im actually going to defend the PS3 here. I'll happily defend against the no games argument, because every console in every generation has at least a handful of games that are good enough. Unless you are either obsessed with scores or are very picky, in which case I would feel sorry for you.

What I will not defend, however, is the number of Cows who use MGS4 as an excuse to why the PS3 is "better." The irony in this is they make people get annoyed at the very mention of MGS (especially those of us who never liked the franchise in the first place), while simultaneously taking all the attention away from the numerous GOOD games that were not hyped to high hell, and probably deserve almost as much attention as GTA or MGS.

A lot of people take too much notice of the score as well. They forget that no matter how highly rated or critically acclaimed a game is, someone, somewhere, will not like it. Fanboys often forget this. It is ironic that the PS3 went from a very long period of having no AAAE's to the only AAAAE, but I feel it does hog all the attention.

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#55 DireToad
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Sheep and lemmings are trying to downplay MGS4's 10/10 score but everyone knows if Halo 3 or Galaxy had gotten 10 we would never hear the end of it.

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One AAAAE game does bot make an entire library. It definitely wouldn'y be reason alone for me personally to get a PS3 it could be the greatest game ever but no matter the game I will beat it once or twice then be done with it and since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't really interest me its not for me at the moment. Sadly every game that if I had bought a PS3 before a 360 I would have games I'd be playing all the time because there are a ton of great multiplats for the system for people who own only PS3. But in the way of people who own multiple consoles or have owned a 360 for a long time there isn't much on PS3 you havn't experienced yet outside of 1 extraordinary game.Ket87

And what "incredible" library of games does 360 have? PDZ? don't make me laugh, all I can think of is Halo 3.

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Which is why I haven't bought a PS3 yet, I have only a moderate interest in the MGS series and I'm still anticipating something in the PS3's library that will push me towards purchasing one. White Knight Story, God of War 3 and the next ICO are games that are on the radar, but it has been quite a wait for franchises (the latter two) that I adore to release :(

ToScA-

I highly recommend MGS 4 when you decide to make the purchase. I'm not that big a fan of the series either, but this game, outlandish plot withstanding, is by far the most accessible Metal Gear game gameplay-wise..The controls are still a bit clunky, but greatly improved and there are a crapload of weapons and gadgets available in levels that can be navigated through several different ways increasing the replay value immensely.

After I finished it I got the MGS database from off of PSN and watched the very impressive Metal Gear restrospective from Gametrailers..Those last two items will fill in all of the blanks quite well.

That being said, if the current library of PS3 games does nothing for you, then one AAAAE title isn't going to do a damn thing to justify dropping a few hundred bucks on the system until it's library is up to your standard.

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#58 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Ket87"]One AAAAE game does bot make an entire library. It definitely wouldn'y be reason alone for me personally to get a PS3 it could be the greatest game ever but no matter the game I will beat it once or twice then be done with it and since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't really interest me its not for me at the moment. Sadly every game that if I had bought a PS3 before a 360 I would have games I'd be playing all the time because there are a ton of great multiplats for the system for people who own only PS3. But in the way of people who own multiple consoles or have owned a 360 for a long time there isn't much on PS3 you havn't experienced yet outside of 1 extraordinary game.coldsteel321

And what "incredible" library of games does 360 have? PDZ? don't make me laugh, all I can think of is Halo 3.

Then you aren't thinking.
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[QUOTE="Ket87"]One AAAAE game does bot make an entire library. It definitely wouldn'y be reason alone for me personally to get a PS3 it could be the greatest game ever but no matter the game I will beat it once or twice then be done with it and since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't really interest me its not for me at the moment. Sadly every game that if I had bought a PS3 before a 360 I would have games I'd be playing all the time because there are a ton of great multiplats for the system for people who own only PS3. But in the way of people who own multiple consoles or have owned a 360 for a long time there isn't much on PS3 you havn't experienced yet outside of 1 extraordinary game.coldsteel321

And what "incredible" library of games does 360 have? PDZ? don't make me laugh, all I can think of is Halo 3.

Browse through 360s top rated games here, you can sort out the AAAEs and the AAEs yourself. You can probably chalk GTAIV to the 360 considering 360 is getting 20 hours of exclusive DLC and Orange Box because it actually runs properly also if you want.

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#60 yonnex
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Most games are on PS3 that are multi system, the reason its better is the hardware does not break its pretty simple. And its not made by microsoft i cant believe the love MS gets remember the days of Windows 95. shhessshh i wouldnt touch MS products
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#61 Iwmyk
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That argmuet hasn't been very clever for a good while.
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Im actually going to defend the PS3 here. I'll happily defend against the no games argument, because every console in every generation has at least a handful of games that are good enough. Unless you are either obsessed with scores or are very picky, in which case I would feel sorry for you.

What I will not defend, however, is the number of Cows who use MGS4 as an excuse to why the PS3 is "better." The irony in this is they make people get annoyed at the very mention of MGS (especially those of us who never liked the franchise in the first place), while simultaneously taking all the attention away from the numerous GOOD games that were not hyped to high hell, and probably deserve almost as much attention as GTA or MGS.

A lot of people take too much notice of the score as well. They forget that no matter how highly rated or critically acclaimed a game is, someone, somewhere, will not like it. Fanboys often forget this. It is ironic that the PS3 went from a very long period of having no AAAE's to the only AAAAE, but I feel it does hog all the attention.

Quofan

*clap hands* :D

Personally I see MGS4 used more as a rebuttal to a false accusations then a "PS3 is better". It is possible to see a game as a good/great game even if you don't like that particular genera (some platform games come to mind). It's when fanboys go overboard and say things like "MGS4 is a movie not a game" or "PS3 has no games", that people get offended and pull out the "MGS4 card". People do this because its so easily backed up by so many reviews. Calling a game that gets over a 9, much less a 10, a -bad- game is simply wrong (industry wise).

I do agree the whole thing is quite silly. But then again, this is SW, a place that opinions and irrelevant stats are tossed around as facts.

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#63 ProductNumber49
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MGS4 should count as 36 games. Its got the power to do so. 8)jackvegas21

MGS4 is one game. Wake up

There are many AAA games that are better IMO

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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

show me 1 AAAE?

just shows that the PS3 game library can be compared to a jewel resting ontop of a pile of ****.

X_CAPCOM_X

2 jewels GTA4, oh wait.... 3 jewels DMC4, oh wait.... 4 jewels CoD4, oh wait.... fanboys don't count multiplats. It takes a HARDCORE fanboy to bring up the "AAAE" argument after MGS4 :lol:

PS3 always had games regardless of weather you like them or not ;)

we dont count multiplats, cause they can be played on the competition.

my analogy still stands, and its brutally correct. Show me one AAAE? No? then MGS4 is the jewel to the PS3's **** exclusive library.

So multiplats are not games, or do you have only 4 games on your Xbox?

Actually, he probably has the superior multiplatform games. Granted, if you owned a Xbox 360 and a PS3, which system would you buy... Orange Box for? How about any multiplatform game?
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#66 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Quofan"]

Im actually going to defend the PS3 here. I'll happily defend against the no games argument, because every console in every generation has at least a handful of games that are good enough. Unless you are either obsessed with scores or are very picky, in which case I would feel sorry for you.

What I will not defend, however, is the number of Cows who use MGS4 as an excuse to why the PS3 is "better." The irony in this is they make people get annoyed at the very mention of MGS (especially those of us who never liked the franchise in the first place), while simultaneously taking all the attention away from the numerous GOOD games that were not hyped to high hell, and probably deserve almost as much attention as GTA or MGS.

A lot of people take too much notice of the score as well. They forget that no matter how highly rated or critically acclaimed a game is, someone, somewhere, will not like it. Fanboys often forget this. It is ironic that the PS3 went from a very long period of having no AAAE's to the only AAAAE, but I feel it does hog all the attention.

FragTycoon

*clap hands* :D

Personally I see MGS4 used more as a rebuttal to a false accusations then a "PS3 is better". It is possible to see a game as a good/great game even if you don't like that particular genera (some platform games come to mind). It's when fanboys go overboard and say things like "MGS4 is a movie not a game" or "PS3 has no games", that people get offended and pull out the "MGS4 card". People do this because its so easily backed up by so many reviews. Calling a game that gets over a 9, much less a 10, a -bad- game is simply wrong (industry wise).

I do agree the whole thing is quite silly. But then again, this is SW, a place that opinions and irrelevant stats are tossed around as facts.

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#67 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]its one gameX_CAPCOM_X



So PS3 has one game? :roll:

i assume this thread was made becuase o mgs4.

otherwise, the title doesnt make sense to me.


The argument was initially wrong.

Except noth9ng is AAAAE just like its 10 out of 10 not 11 out of 10, Who would spend $450 for one single game? Waste of money.

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#68 WilliamRLBaker
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Its not ironic that they got mgs 4 that only scored 9.2 and yes thats the score game rankings average.
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#69 MadExponent
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The argument goes like this. The reason to actually buy a PS3 just came. Pre-MGS4 what everyone needed was done better and more efficiently on 360. Post-MGS4, almost what everyone needed was on 360 and done better..,.except MGS4.
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#70 Andrew_Xavier
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Your own post says the ps3 went from having no games to 1 game, is that really a strong arguement?
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So you're saying that it went from having no games to having

Wait for it...

One game. ...Good job.

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The PS3's real flaw is that those other games that are worth playing can be beat over a rental, except for Warhawk and Resistance if you can stomach the multiplayer. I couldn't stand it.

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The PS3's real flaw is that those other games that are worth playing can be beat over a rental, except for Warhawk and Resistance if you can stomach the multiplayer. I couldn't stand it.

beast667

I beat halo3 in co-op with my friend in less than 6 hours.

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#74 beast667
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[QUOTE="beast667"]

The PS3's real flaw is that those other games that are worth playing can be beat over a rental, except for Warhawk and Resistance if you can stomach the multiplayer. I couldn't stand it.

Iceman2911

I beat halo3 in co-op with my friend in less than 6 hours.

What does that have to do with PS3 games being short? I didn't say anything about 360 :|
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One AAAAE game does bot make an entire library. It definitely wouldn'y be reason alone for me personally to get a PS3 it could be the greatest game ever but no matter the game I will beat it once or twice then be done with it and since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't really interest me its not for me at the moment. Sadly every game that if I had bought a PS3 before a 360 I would have games I'd be playing all the time because there are a ton of great multiplats for the system for people who own only PS3. But in the way of people who own multiple consoles or have owned a 360 for a long time there isn't much on PS3 you havn't experienced yet outside of 1 extraordinary game.Ket87

omg stfu, its has practically the same games as other consoles cause most games are multi-plat, and it has great exclusives

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]And yet I still have no reason to buy one. Having one steller game that cators to its own niche is hardly grounds for a 'well rounded, uber, highly sought after console'thegoldenpoo
i agree, and having played this 'system seller' i can honesly say that non MGS fans will hate it

I've never played an MGS game before it and I liked it :?

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[QUOTE="Ket87"]One AAAAE game does bot make an entire library. It definitely wouldn'y be reason alone for me personally to get a PS3 it could be the greatest game ever but no matter the game I will beat it once or twice then be done with it and since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't really interest me its not for me at the moment. Sadly every game that if I had bought a PS3 before a 360 I would have games I'd be playing all the time because there are a ton of great multiplats for the system for people who own only PS3. But in the way of people who own multiple consoles or have owned a 360 for a long time there isn't much on PS3 you havn't experienced yet outside of 1 extraordinary game.patrickjw333

omg stfu, its has practically the same games as other consoles cause most games are multi-plat, and it has great exclusives

lol what you said is so true if lemmings don't count multiplats they only have 4 to 5 AAA and the 360 been out for 2 years going to 3after this year.

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#78 Jamiemydearx3
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its one gameJPOBS

This man is right. Its one game, woopy?

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#79 Jamiemydearx3
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[QUOTE="beast667"]

The PS3's real flaw is that those other games that are worth playing can be beat over a rental, except for Warhawk and Resistance if you can stomach the multiplayer. I couldn't stand it.

Iceman2911

I beat halo3 in co-op with my friend in less than 6 hours.

Woah, your cool? probably 4 player co-op to. That isnt very hard. :l Try playing it by yourself on legendary.

EDIT: "my friend" Ok lol so it was two of you. Still try it by yourself, its a lot more challenging.

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#80 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

[QUOTE="Ket87"]One AAAAE game does bot make an entire library. It definitely wouldn'y be reason alone for me personally to get a PS3 it could be the greatest game ever but no matter the game I will beat it once or twice then be done with it and since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't really interest me its not for me at the moment. Sadly every game that if I had bought a PS3 before a 360 I would have games I'd be playing all the time because there are a ton of great multiplats for the system for people who own only PS3. But in the way of people who own multiple consoles or have owned a 360 for a long time there isn't much on PS3 you havn't experienced yet outside of 1 extraordinary game.Iceman2911

omg stfu, its has practically the same games as other consoles cause most games are multi-plat, and it has great exclusives

lol what you said is so true if lemmings don't count multiplats they only have 4 to 5 AAA and the 360 been out for 2 years going to 3after this year.

And the ps3 only has 1, after being out for almost 2 years :?

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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]its one gameJamiemydearx3

This man is right. Its one game, woopy?

Easy easy! Its all they got man! Why be so heartless? :P
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#82 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

[QUOTE="Ket87"]One AAAAE game does bot make an entire library. It definitely wouldn'y be reason alone for me personally to get a PS3 it could be the greatest game ever but no matter the game I will beat it once or twice then be done with it and since the rest of the PS3 library doesn't really interest me its not for me at the moment. Sadly every game that if I had bought a PS3 before a 360 I would have games I'd be playing all the time because there are a ton of great multiplats for the system for people who own only PS3. But in the way of people who own multiple consoles or have owned a 360 for a long time there isn't much on PS3 you havn't experienced yet outside of 1 extraordinary game.Andrew_Xavier

omg stfu, its has practically the same games as other consoles cause most games are multi-plat, and it has great exclusives

lol what you said is so true if lemmings don't count multiplats they only have 4 to 5 AAA and the 360 been out for 2 years going to 3after this year.

And the ps3 only has 1, after being out for almost 2 years :?

One AAAAe and expect a AAAe to come to

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#84 Frexie
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Its one thing for GameSpot to overrate a game, its a whole new story when the cows are not only trying to run with it, but overblowing it to the point that is it the PS3's savior and is magically going to compensate for PS3's mediocre showing since the day it launched:|

It's just one game. A ten you say, well, let me spin the logic around since you guys loved doing it to me: A ten is supposedly "Prime", not "Perfect". Everything from Framerate issues and graphical rough-spots, to the slightly above-average online at best (No PSN Integrated ID? Paying for Character slots?), MGS4 has as many flaws as the next AAA game. Metacritic & GR have it ranked at below 95%, so GS is one of the several major publications that conviently overrated it.

X_CAPCOM_X



Wow. Go read the review here. Then go read every review that gave this game a good score.

Do you really think it's worth it to take a whole point off for some bad textures in a few areas? Of course, 10 does not mean perfect, but there is little that could be improved in this game. That's why it's a 10 on almost every credible review site and magazine.

Also your sig and your opening statement bring light to your actual motives. You've never really played it, have you? You just hate the "painstation 3" just like gamegirls.com and eurogamer.

The experiences ive read up about the online-play is that it Call of Duty 4 & Halo 3 blow it away, "good" at best, on the official shared boards here. That, along with the other flaws I pointed out, easily jusftify a knockdown of .5 off that 10. Experiencing is one thing, but research is another, and I do that more than most PS3 fanboys here. Just like earlier this week we had these so called dedicated PS3-Cows clamoring over the PSN temporarily being suspended, thinking it was hacked/being worked on for 2.40 when that was not the case, and Sony stated that days in advance.

As far as big media sources giving it a ten, well, do you think they'll bring in more traffic and praise for their website with lower reviews, or higher reviews? GameSpot has fallen victim like the rest of publications, they stopped telling like it is after the K&L incident, and conviently afterwards AAA/AAAA's are handed out like candy.

Don't be quick to label me as a hater. I stand by what I say in my sig, but PS3 is my system of choice. I actually already have the HDMI Cable/Bluetooth Headset/Wireless Controllers for it stashed away for use when I actually buy one, I tend to buy accessories for my future systems in advance before the big purchase. Im waiting for the inevitable price drop/new bundle later this year. I see the failure PSP has become and stubborn Sony has made the same exact mistakes with PS3, they have some work to do.

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#85 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="Frexie"]

Its one thing for GameSpot to overrate a game, its a whole new story when the cows are not only trying to run with it, but overblowing it to the point that is it the PS3's savior and is magically going to compensate for PS3's mediocre showing since the day it launched:|

It's just one game. A ten you say, well, let me spin the logic around since you guys loved doing it to me: A ten is supposedly "Prime", not "Perfect". Everything from Framerate issues and graphical rough-spots, to the slightly above-average online at best (No PSN Integrated ID? Paying for Character slots?), MGS4 has as many flaws as the next AAA game. Metacritic & GR have it ranked at below 95%, so GS is one of the several major publications that conviently overrated it.

Frexie



Wow. Go read the review here. Then go read every review that gave this game a good score.

Do you really think it's worth it to take a whole point off for some bad textures in a few areas? Of course, 10 does not mean perfect, but there is little that could be improved in this game. That's why it's a 10 on almost every credible review site and magazine.

Also your sig and your opening statement bring light to your actual motives. You've never really played it, have you? You just hate the "painstation 3" just like gamegirls.com and eurogamer.

The experiences ive read up about the online-play is that it Call of Duty 4 & Halo 3 blow it away, "good" at best, on the official shared boards here. That, along with the other flaws I pointed out, easily jusftify a knockdown of .5 off that 10. Experiencing is one thing, but research is another, and I do that more than most PS3 fanboys here. Just like earlier this week we had these so called dedicated PS3-Cows clamoring over the PSN temporarily being suspended, thinking it was hacked/being worked on for 2.40 when that was not the case, and Sony stated that days in advance.

As far as big media sources giving it a ten, well, do you think they'll bring in more traffic and praise for their website with lower reviews, or higher reviews? GameSpot has fallen victim like the rest of publications, they stopped telling like it is after the K&L incident, and conviently afterwards AAA/AAAA's are handed out like candy.

Don't be quick to label me as a hater. I stand by what I say in my sig, but PS3 is my system of choice. I actually already have the HDMI Cable/Bluetooth Headset/Wireless Controllers for it stashed away for use when I actually buy one (after the next inevitable price drop), I tend to buy accessories for my future systems in advance before the big purchase. Im also waiting for the inevitable price drop/new bundle later this year. I see the failure PSP has become and stubborn Sony has made the same exact mistakes with PS3, they have some work to do.

MGS4 online was supposed to be a seperate game that is way it wasn't scored based on the online play too.

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#86 Ze_ALEX
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[QUOTE="beast667"]

The PS3's real flaw is that those other games that are worth playing can be beat over a rental, except for Warhawk and Resistance if you can stomach the multiplayer. I couldn't stand it.

Iceman2911

I beat halo3 in co-op with my friend in less than 6 hours.



yeah games on easy are well uh, easy?
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An awesome game. Definitely glad I went for the PS3.
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#88 AdrianWerner
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The "no games" argument was always flawed. PS3 has numerous good games, there's no point in denying this, but there;s also no point in denying that overall PS3 library is simply weak compared to other platforms or to how PS2 was doing in it's first two years and one MGS4 doesn't change that
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#89 jg4xchamp
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It is ironic...but then again Metal Gear Solid is an awesome franchise.

That said the Cows have been praising the PS3s lineup like it suddenly isn't behind the 360 and Wii in exclusives.

Fact is outside of MGS 4, PS3 only has 4 other games that got AA or better. and none of them got AAA. So essentially the PS3 has been at 5 games worth mentioning in a a year and a half span.

And for those of you who complain about gamespot scores, if we use Metacritic MGS 4 suddenly isn't AAAA anymore. and your 1 and only AAAA exclusive becomes your 1 and only AAA exclusive. And all you gain is 2 more AA games.

anyway back on point

360- 4 AAAE and 10AAE

Wii- 4 AAAE and 7 AAE

PC= Beast

The other AAA and AA games are on the PC and 360.

Heck for all the 360 games go to PC. How the hell does the 360 still manage to get more high rated exclusives than the PS3?

I mean the 360 library is essentially missing Gears of War, Mass Effect, Command and Conquer 3, Call of Duty 2, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, Viva Pinata as games in its library that you can't play on PS3.

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#90 Iceman2911
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It is ironic...but then again Metal Gear Solid is an awesome franchise.

That said the Cows have been praising the PS3s lineup like it suddenly isn't behind the 360 and Wii in exclusives.

Fact is outside of MGS 4, PS3 only has 4 other games that got AA or better. and none of them got AAA. So essentially the PS3 has been at 5 games worth mentioning in a a year and a half span.

And for those of you who complain about gamespot scores, if we use Metacritic MGS 4 suddenly isn't AAAA anymore. and your 1 and only AAAA exclusive becomes your 1 and only AAA exclusive. And all you gain is 2 more AA games.

anyway back on point

360- 4 AAAE and 10AAE

Wii- 4 AAAE and 7 AAE

PC= Beast

The other AAA and AA games are on the PC and 360.

Heck for all the 360 games go to PC. How the hell does the 360 still manage to get more high rated exclusives than the PS3?

I mean the 360 library is essentially missing Gears of War, Mass Effect, Command and Conquer 3, Call of Duty 2, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, Viva Pinata as games in its library that you can't play on PS3.

jg4xchamp

This is coming from somebody who doesn't own a ps3. Alot of the Xbox 360 exclusives go to the pc and before you can say Atleast they are not on the ps3 it doesn't make them exclusives. An AAAAe game is very different from a AAAe game. I would say more but I have a headache.

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#91 VanHelsingBoA64
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As far as big media sources giving it a ten, well, do you think they'll bring in more traffic and praise for their website with lower reviews, or higher reviews? GameSpot has fallen victim like the rest of publications, they stopped telling like it is after the K&L incident, and conviently afterwards AAA/AAAA's are handed out like candy.

Frexie

Two things.

1)GS definently would have gotten more traffic if they gave mgs4 a low score.

2)Do you believe that all games recieving AAA/AAAA after K&L were a part of big conspiracy theory or does mgs4 just stand out in particular?

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Lems only play AAAE remember.

Now cows only play AAAAE.

:lol:

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#93 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

It is ironic...but then again Metal Gear Solid is an awesome franchise.

That said the Cows have been praising the PS3s lineup like it suddenly isn't behind the 360 and Wii in exclusives.

Fact is outside of MGS 4, PS3 only has 4 other games that got AA or better. and none of them got AAA. So essentially the PS3 has been at 5 games worth mentioning in a a year and a half span.

And for those of you who complain about gamespot scores, if we use Metacritic MGS 4 suddenly isn't AAAA anymore. and your 1 and only AAAA exclusive becomes your 1 and only AAA exclusive. And all you gain is 2 more AA games.

anyway back on point

360- 4 AAAE and 10AAE

Wii- 4 AAAE and 7 AAE

PC= Beast

The other AAA and AA games are on the PC and 360.

Heck for all the 360 games go to PC. How the hell does the 360 still manage to get more high rated exclusives than the PS3?

I mean the 360 library is essentially missing Gears of War, Mass Effect, Command and Conquer 3, Call of Duty 2, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, Viva Pinata as games in its library that you can't play on PS3.

Iceman2911

This is coming from somebody who doesn't own a ps3. Alot of the Xbox 360 exclusives go to the pc and before you can say Atleast they are not on the ps3 it doesn't make them exclusives. An AAAAe game is very different from a AAAe game. I would say more but I have a headache.

This is coming from somebody who has 4 systems.

That doesnt change the fact that the 360 still has 4 AAA exclusives(that are not on PC) and 10 AA exclusives that are not on PC

Halo 3 has no PC date, hell so far bungie has shown no plans
Forza 2 has no PC date
GRAW(well that time has passed)
PDZ(which is still AAE on metacritic so relax) isn't on PC

The list goes on DOA 4, NG 2, Dead Rising, Eternal Sonota, PGR 4, etc

Cows keep saying 360 games end up on PS3 anyway. Yet the 360 has more AA and AAA exclusives. Which means not all of its best games go to the PC. Where as so far the PS3s best games are either the 1 amazing gmae, or mostly just very good but not great games.
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#94 Ghoroo
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

It is ironic...but then again Metal Gear Solid is an awesome franchise.

That said the Cows have been praising the PS3s lineup like it suddenly isn't behind the 360 and Wii in exclusives.

Fact is outside of MGS 4, PS3 only has 4 other games that got AA or better. and none of them got AAA. So essentially the PS3 has been at 5 games worth mentioning in a a year and a half span.

And for those of you who complain about gamespot scores, if we use Metacritic MGS 4 suddenly isn't AAAA anymore. and your 1 and only AAAA exclusive becomes your 1 and only AAA exclusive. And all you gain is 2 more AA games.

anyway back on point

360- 4 AAAE and 10AAE

Wii- 4 AAAE and 7 AAE

PC= Beast

The other AAA and AA games are on the PC and 360.

Heck for all the 360 games go to PC. How the hell does the 360 still manage to get more high rated exclusives than the PS3?

I mean the 360 library is essentially missing Gears of War, Mass Effect, Command and Conquer 3, Call of Duty 2, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, Viva Pinata as games in its library that you can't play on PS3.

Iceman2911

This is coming from somebody who doesn't own a ps3. Alot of the Xbox 360 exclusives go to the pc and before you can say Atleast they are not on the ps3 it doesn't make them exclusives. An AAAAe game is very different from a AAAe game. I would say more but I have a headache.

That's like saying that a game on PS2 and PS3 is not a PS exclusive.

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#95 VanHelsingBoA64
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

It is ironic...but then again Metal Gear Solid is an awesome franchise.

That said the Cows have been praising the PS3s lineup like it suddenly isn't behind the 360 and Wii in exclusives.

Fact is outside of MGS 4, PS3 only has 4 other games that got AA or better. and none of them got AAA. So essentially the PS3 has been at 5 games worth mentioning in a a year and a half span.

And for those of you who complain about gamespot scores, if we use Metacritic MGS 4 suddenly isn't AAAA anymore. and your 1 and only AAAA exclusive becomes your 1 and only AAA exclusive. And all you gain is 2 more AA games.

anyway back on point

360- 4 AAAE and 10AAE

Wii- 4 AAAE and 7 AAE

PC= Beast

The other AAA and AA games are on the PC and 360.

Heck for all the 360 games go to PC. How the hell does the 360 still manage to get more high rated exclusives than the PS3?

I mean the 360 library is essentially missing Gears of War, Mass Effect, Command and Conquer 3, Call of Duty 2, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, Viva Pinata as games in its library that you can't play on PS3.

Ghoroo

This is coming from somebody who doesn't own a ps3. Alot of the Xbox 360 exclusives go to the pc and before you can say Atleast they are not on the ps3 it doesn't make them exclusives. An AAAAe game is very different from a AAAe game. I would say more but I have a headache.

That's like saying that a game on PS2 and PS3 is not a PS exclusive.

It's been said before. I think BB said it with Singstar and MLB 08 the show.

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#96 Ghoroo
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It's been said before. I think BB said it with Singstar and MLB 08 the show.

VanHelsingBoA64

I figured it was. And what is BB?

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#97 jg4xchamp
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and its been said with Twilight Princess being considered a multiplat instead of an exclusive.
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#98 VanHelsingBoA64
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[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

It's been said before. I think BB said it with Singstar and MLB 08 the show.

Ghoroo

I figured it was. And what is BB?

Blackbond

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#99 DanteSuikoden
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Sheep and lemmings are trying to downplay MGS4's 10/10 score but everyone knows if Halo 3 or Galaxy had gotten 10 we would never hear the end of it.

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#100 butteman12
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It just shows that no one can predict anything anymore in SW arguments. Isn't it better to just wait for official reviews to determine if a game has met the required hype? That way no one has to resurrect old threads to provide ownage. Just a theory.

megaton3k

only MGS4 came out...you dont know maybe the other games will flop you dont know what scores they'll get...