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#51 strudel420
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Not sure if the motion controls can make up for the graphical downgrade but we'll see.
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#52 falconclan
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[QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

What would the devs do?, just go through the game and make the graphics and gameplay worse.

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enemies on screen reduced drastically also

wow even worse, why not work on a sequal then just waste time making a worse version of an already lame game. Not to mention it wont sell due to the lack of hardcore Wii owners.

and all respect was lost. Up to this point I thought this thread had potential, but now I see that it cannot be.
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#53 Zhengi
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It won't be the same game on the Wii, period. The game was about surviving zombies not killing them and that was made possible by the insane number of zombies on screen. For example, collecting all the bombs in the parking garage wont even be the same thing. I would not be surprised if they take that section out all together.

If they say something like " the zombies in this game will be much faster and more aggressive" you know that the game is crap. ps3 should have seen the port, not the Wii. I won't care as long as Dead Rising 2 is not a Wii multi-plat but if it is you I can kiss this IP goodbye.

Coyo7e

That's the good selling point. Why would anyone want to play the same DR game if it is already on the 360? The fact that it is unique should be good as it provides a different experience. If you're disappointed with RE4 style gaming, which btw is one of the best games to ever get made, then that's all on you.

Plus, if DR2 is Wii multiplat, so what? Play your 360 or PS3 version and let others play the Wii version. Why do you let it bother you?

This represented the tip of the ice-berg and now it is just an RE spin off and not a DR game. I don't want a sequel unless it expands on what made the game great. The Wii is rolling back what made the game great. I hope I am wrong and they get it done but I doubt it.

Another lame game with super zombies (in order to make them deadly and interesting) rather then hordes of true zombies would not be a sequel.

The 360 may be able to expand the series into what it should be. A high end PC could but this is a console game at heart. I wanted them to focus on what made the game great, not better shooting mechanics ripped off from RE to sale games on the Wii.

Coyo7e

You make it sound like RE is a bad thing. Even if it is an RE spinoff, why does it affect you? Capcom hasn't even talked about a DR2 and you're already assuming that it won't be the same as the first one. You are making too many assumptions before they are realized. You're counting your chicks before they hatch and all that good stuff.

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#54 evilross
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Sheep will defend anything. Getting all worked up over a table scrap version of a two year old game.

But i guess thats how it is. Wii is all good now that its getting Dead Rising : Chop (content) Till You Drop

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As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
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As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
foxhound_fox

I kind of wonder about that. DR did sell a million, but it seems like Capcom did not get as much profit as they wanted or else there would already be a sequel... but then, it's quite possible they're already working on one and we just don't know about it yet.

Of course, I still don't understand why people get pissed off at this port. If you want a sequel, get more people to buy the first game. This is a prime example of why sales matter. People in SW keep saying that sales don't matter unless you are a stock holder and here you have games not receiving sequels due to sales.

And seriously, who cares if it's getting ported to the Wii? You really think people will care that you feel sorry that they get to play DR on the Wii? I still don't understand how this affects anyone hating on the game.

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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]It won't be the same game on the Wii, period. The game was about surviving zombies not killing them and that was made possible by the insane number of zombies on screen. For example, collecting all the bombs in the parking garage wont even be the same thing. I would not be surprised if they take that section out all together.

If they say something like " the zombies in this game will be much faster and more aggressive" you know that the game is crap. ps3 should have seen the port, not the Wii. I won't care as long as Dead Rising 2 is not a Wii multi-plat but if it is you I can kiss this IP goodbye.

Zhengi

That's the good selling point. Why would anyone want to play the same DR game if it is already on the 360? The fact that it is unique should be good as it provides a different experience. If you're disappointed with RE4 style gaming, which btw is one of the best games to ever get made, then that's all on you.

Plus, if DR2 is Wii multiplat, so what? Play your 360 or PS3 version and let others play the Wii version. Why do you let it bother you?

This represented the tip of the ice-berg and now it is just an RE spin off and not a DR game. I don't want a sequel unless it expands on what made the game great. The Wii is rolling back what made the game great. I hope I am wrong and they get it done but I doubt it.

Another lame game with super zombies (in order to make them deadly and interesting) rather then hordes of true zombies would not be a sequel.

The 360 may be able to expand the series into what it should be. A high end PC could but this is a console game at heart. I wanted them to focus on what made the game great, not better shooting mechanics ripped off from RE to sale games on the Wii.

Coyo7e

You make it sound like RE is a bad thing. Even if it is an RE spinoff, why does it affect you? Capcom hasn't even talked about a DR2 and you're already assuming that it won't be the same as the first one. You are making too many assumptions before they are realized. You're counting your chicks before they hatch and all that good stuff.

RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.

We don't need a "me too" zombie game. I could always see where hermits come from when they hate console ports that sacrifice what made the game great in the first place just to get it to run. I mean, I hated what they did to Far Cry. But the issue has never hit close to home like it has for me and this Wii port.

To bad, just like console gamers of last generation thought Far Cry was crap, Wii only gamers or those without a 360 will play a version of Dead Rising that makes them say "RE is better". The two are not the same thing nor should they be. You can not even compare the two.

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The game dead rising is not lame, this is coming from someone who played for a little while, then stopped playing because I just did not get the game. It was repititive, but after getting hold of the game again and having my cousin tell me things I never knew about. The game is hard to be repetitive, because you can do so many things, lot and lots of things to do. So you really dont have to repeat anything, you can always play however you want. I just bought it again, for about 25 dollars, I told one of my co-workers how I feel sorry for anyone who pays more for a game that is not as good as this game...

The point is people are about to pay 52.99 for a game that is not nearly as good as the first game:shock:

The wii can not produce the same experience, it is a totally different game, making the zombies smarter is SO DANG DUMB becaues they are supposed to be dumb. This game just is such a bad idea, a serious waste of time, but probably the easiest thing capcom ever does. Literally trying to be lazy, imagine that if you had a job were you were supposed to do less than before.. I know that feeling, it is awesome. But as a gamer that does not care too much for graphics, the wii just aint capable of the type of game this is.

So at one of their meetings this is how it came about

boss "lets put this game on the wii, those sheep will buy anything in the name of claiming better gameplay"

developer "but it wont produce better gameplay, the system can't handle it, the game will be a joke, and you really can't have the same game, it will be more linear. Unless your just wanting to take wii owners money to invest into a second dead rising on xbox360, and hell why not the ps3 also."

boss "WHAT THE HECK, ARE YOU STUPID, NO 2, WE JUST WANT THEIR MONEY, RAWR!"

Now granted I like my sega genesis more than my super nintendo because ultimately I care more about gameplay, because games like battletech are so much cooler on the sega genesis, than on the super nintendo because it can run much more at a time. But the Wii is not like the sega genesis while the super nintendo is like the 360. In fact the 360 is more like both combined having better graphics, and more power.

"When I first heard about Dead Rising on Wii I initially felt that the idea is patently ridiculous... Then again, Resident Wii-vil 4 is brilliant... I guess Dead Rising on Wii could work after all.. "

Your talking about porting a gamecube game on the wii that is basically a gamerectangle:P, versus a 360 game that is being ported to a gamerectangle.... Your logic astounds me, my personal opinion the only reason why the wii version might of worked with the wii-mote is because they put a cross-hair, which the game is good on the wii. But I like not having the cross-hair personally.

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As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
foxhound_fox
It's already been stated that they will be making the game easier in certain ways to make it more acessible to casual players. For example, the game will not be more mission based and linear compared to the sandbox gameplay they had before.
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As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
foxhound_fox

Well said.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
Zhengi

I kind of wonder about that. DR did sell a million, but it seems like Capcom did not get as much profit as they wanted or else there would already be a sequel... but then, it's quite possible they're already working on one and we just don't know about it yet.

Of course, I still don't understand why people get pissed off at this port. If you want a sequel, get more people to buy the first game. This is a prime example of why sales matter. People in SW keep saying that sales don't matter unless you are a stock holder and here you have games not receiving sequels due to sales.

And seriously, who cares if it's getting ported to the Wii? You really think people will care that you feel sorry that they get to play DR on the Wii? I still don't understand how this affects anyone hating on the game.

People just see it as a wasted effort, and I tend to agree, it seems like another "Lets get it out and make a quick buck" thing. I feel like the reason they aren't working on DR2 or haven't announced it is because they are thinking the story over, and it ended in a sort of set in stone ending. They didn't leave much room for change, but I think if that is the reason they are looking too far into it. Just make another game and act like DR1 didn't even happen for all I care.
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The game dead rising is not lame, this is coming from someone who played for a little while, then stopped playing because I just did not get the game. It was repititive, but after getting hold of the game again and having my cousin tell me things I never knew about. The game is hard to be repetitive, because you can do so many things, lot and lots of things to do. So you really dont have to repeat anything, you can always play however you want. I just bought it again, for about 25 dollars, I told one of my co-workers how I feel sorry for anyone who pays more for a game that is not as good as this game...

The point is people are about to pay 52.99 for a game that is not nearly as good as the first game:shock:

The wii can not produce the same experience, it is a totally different game, making the zombies smarter is SO DANG DUMB becaues they are supposed to be dumb. This game just is such a bad idea, a serious waste of time, but probably the easiest thing capcom ever does. Literally trying to be lazy, imagine that if you had a job were you were supposed to do less than before.. I know that feeling, it is awesome. But as a gamer that does not care too much for graphics, the wii just aint capable of the type of game this is.

So at one of their meetings this is how it came about

boss "lets put this game on the wii, those sheep will buy anything in the name of claiming better gameplay"

developer "but it wont produce better gameplay, the system can't handle it, the game will be a joke, and you really can't have the same game, it will be more linear. Unless your just wanting to take wii owners money to invest into a second dead rising on xbox360, and hell why not the ps3 also."

boss "WHAT THE HECK, ARE YOU STUPID, NO 2, WE JUST WANT THEIR MONEY, RAWR!"

Now granted I like my sega genesis more than my super nintendo because ultimately I care more about gameplay, because games like battletech are so much cooler on the sega genesis, than on the super nintendo because it can run much more at a time. But the Wii is not like the sega genesis while the super nintendo is like the 360. In fact the 360 is more like both combined having better graphics, and more power.

"When I first heard about Dead Rising on Wii I initially felt that the idea is patently ridiculous... Then again, Resident Wii-vil 4 is brilliant... I guess Dead Rising on Wii could work after all.. " Your talking about porting a gamecube game on the wii that is basically a gamerectangle:P, versus a 360 game that is being ported to a gamerectangle.... Your logic astounds me

SegaGenesisfan

I can't believe they are doing that to the game-play. I can never give Fallout fans crap again because that would me a total hypocrite.

The same week that I found out there would be a Dead Rising sequel and I jumped for joy had to be the same week I found out about this atrocious port and hang my head in shame.

Bitter sweet, just plain bitter sweet. If this effects how Dead Rising 2 is made I will never forgive Capcom.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
falconclan

I kind of wonder about that. DR did sell a million, but it seems like Capcom did not get as much profit as they wanted or else there would already be a sequel... but then, it's quite possible they're already working on one and we just don't know about it yet.

Of course, I still don't understand why people get pissed off at this port. If you want a sequel, get more people to buy the first game. This is a prime example of why sales matter. People in SW keep saying that sales don't matter unless you are a stock holder and here you have games not receiving sequels due to sales.

And seriously, who cares if it's getting ported to the Wii? You really think people will care that you feel sorry that they get to play DR on the Wii? I still don't understand how this affects anyone hating on the game.

People just see it as a wasted effort, and I tend to agree, it seems like another "Lets get it out and make a quick buck" thing. I feel like the reason they aren't working on DR2 or haven't announced it is because they are thinking the story over, and it ended in a sort of set in stone ending. They didn't leave much room for change, but I think if that is the reason they are looking too far into it. Just make another game and act like DR1 didn't even happen for all I care.

DR 2 is going to happen but its really, really early. Just google Dead Rising 2.

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#64 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]It won't be the same game on the Wii, period. The game was about surviving zombies not killing them and that was made possible by the insane number of zombies on screen. For example, collecting all the bombs in the parking garage wont even be the same thing. I would not be surprised if they take that section out all together.

If they say something like " the zombies in this game will be much faster and more aggressive" you know that the game is crap. ps3 should have seen the port, not the Wii. I won't care as long as Dead Rising 2 is not a Wii multi-plat but if it is you I can kiss this IP goodbye.

Coyo7e

That's the good selling point. Why would anyone want to play the same DR game if it is already on the 360? The fact that it is unique should be good as it provides a different experience. If you're disappointed with RE4 style gaming, which btw is one of the best games to ever get made, then that's all on you.

Plus, if DR2 is Wii multiplat, so what? Play your 360 or PS3 version and let others play the Wii version. Why do you let it bother you?

This represented the tip of the ice-berg and now it is just an RE spin off and not a DR game. I don't want a sequel unless it expands on what made the game great. The Wii is rolling back what made the game great. I hope I am wrong and they get it done but I doubt it.

Another lame game with super zombies (in order to make them deadly and interesting) rather then hordes of true zombies would not be a sequel.

The 360 may be able to expand the series into what it should be. A high end PC could but this is a console game at heart. I wanted them to focus on what made the game great, not better shooting mechanics ripped off from RE to sale games on the Wii.

Coyo7e

You make it sound like RE is a bad thing. Even if it is an RE spinoff, why does it affect you? Capcom hasn't even talked about a DR2 and you're already assuming that it won't be the same as the first one. You are making too many assumptions before they are realized. You're counting your chicks before they hatch and all that good stuff.

RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.

We don't need a "me too" zombie game. I could always see where hermits come from when they hate console ports that sacrifice what made the game great in the first place just to get it to run. I mean, I hated what they did to Far Cry. But the issue has never hit close to home like it has for me and this Wii port.

To bad, just like console gamers of last generation thought Far Cry was crap, Wii only gamers or those without a 360 will play a version of Dead Rising that makes them say "RE is better". The two are not the same thing nor should they be. You can not even compare the two.

But once again, how does this affect you? You can just ignore it and pretend it never exists.

In fact, if there is a DR2 for the 360 or PS3 and people like the DR version of the Wii, they might be inclined to try out that version. Of course, this is all entirely speculation. But then, I don't see how more games for more people to play is such a bad thing.

Also, unlike hermits complaints, this game is a port of a 2 year old game. Hermits mainly complain about current games in development that are dumbed down to fit consoles. This is a completely different issue.

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RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.Coyo7e

It is "Dawn of the Dead" in game form. It is meant to be a sandbox survival game, no a linear action game like the RE series.
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#66 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
falconclan

I kind of wonder about that. DR did sell a million, but it seems like Capcom did not get as much profit as they wanted or else there would already be a sequel... but then, it's quite possible they're already working on one and we just don't know about it yet.

Of course, I still don't understand why people get pissed off at this port. If you want a sequel, get more people to buy the first game. This is a prime example of why sales matter. People in SW keep saying that sales don't matter unless you are a stock holder and here you have games not receiving sequels due to sales.

And seriously, who cares if it's getting ported to the Wii? You really think people will care that you feel sorry that they get to play DR on the Wii? I still don't understand how this affects anyone hating on the game.

People just see it as a wasted effort, and I tend to agree, it seems like another "Lets get it out and make a quick buck" thing. I feel like the reason they aren't working on DR2 or haven't announced it is because they are thinking the story over, and it ended in a sort of set in stone ending. They didn't leave much room for change, but I think if that is the reason they are looking too far into it. Just make another game and act like DR1 didn't even happen for all I care.

Well, wasted effort or quick buck, who knows at this point. But it is interesting that they got the game to work on the RE4 engine. To me, it seems like they put plenty of effort into it to make it work. We'll see how it turns out though. I'm not saying it's going to be great, but I'm geniunely interested to see how it will turn out.

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#67 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.foxhound_fox

It is "Dawn of the Dead" in game form. It is meant to be a sandbox survival game, no a linear action game like the RE series.

Well, we have no details yet if it is a linear action game. So far, it sounds like it retains some of the sandbox survival aspects, but with more RE sty.le shooting. Let's wait till there is actual gameplay before we decide.

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#68 Coyo7e
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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]It won't be the same game on the Wii, period. The game was about surviving zombies not killing them and that was made possible by the insane number of zombies on screen. For example, collecting all the bombs in the parking garage wont even be the same thing. I would not be surprised if they take that section out all together.

If they say something like " the zombies in this game will be much faster and more aggressive" you know that the game is crap. ps3 should have seen the port, not the Wii. I won't care as long as Dead Rising 2 is not a Wii multi-plat but if it is you I can kiss this IP goodbye.

Zhengi

That's the good selling point. Why would anyone want to play the same DR game if it is already on the 360? The fact that it is unique should be good as it provides a different experience. If you're disappointed with RE4 style gaming, which btw is one of the best games to ever get made, then that's all on you.

Plus, if DR2 is Wii multiplat, so what? Play your 360 or PS3 version and let others play the Wii version. Why do you let it bother you?

This represented the tip of the ice-berg and now it is just an RE spin off and not a DR game. I don't want a sequel unless it expands on what made the game great. The Wii is rolling back what made the game great. I hope I am wrong and they get it done but I doubt it.

Another lame game with super zombies (in order to make them deadly and interesting) rather then hordes of true zombies would not be a sequel.

The 360 may be able to expand the series into what it should be. A high end PC could but this is a console game at heart. I wanted them to focus on what made the game great, not better shooting mechanics ripped off from RE to sale games on the Wii.

Coyo7e

You make it sound like RE is a bad thing. Even if it is an RE spinoff, why does it affect you? Capcom hasn't even talked about a DR2 and you're already assuming that it won't be the same as the first one. You are making too many assumptions before they are realized. You're counting your chicks before they hatch and all that good stuff.

RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.

We don't need a "me too" zombie game. I could always see where hermits come from when they hate console ports that sacrifice what made the game great in the first place just to get it to run. I mean, I hated what they did to Far Cry. But the issue has never hit close to home like it has for me and this Wii port.

To bad, just like console gamers of last generation thought Far Cry was crap, Wii only gamers or those without a 360 will play a version of Dead Rising that makes them say "RE is better". The two are not the same thing nor should they be. You can not even compare the two.

But once again, how does this affect you? You can just ignore it and pretend it never exists.

In fact, if there is a DR2 for the 360 or PS3 and people like the DR version of the Wii, they might be inclined to try out that version. Of course, this is all entirely speculation. But then, I don't see how more games for more people to play is such a bad thing.

Also, unlike hermits complaints, this game is a port of a 2 year old game. Hermits mainly complain about current games in development that are dumbed down to fit consoles. This is a completely different issue.

It effects me if I never see the things that made Dead Rising great expanded on because the Wii version sells better.

I am worried this will effect DR 2 and I never liked my favorite PC games getting lame ports to consoles. Doom3, Far Cry, some RTS games.

It has just never hit close to home by effecting a game I dearly love.

Dead Rising was the start of something great, now it looks in danger of falling victim to market share and suits rather then the baby of creative people who clearly had a love for those great zombie B flicks.

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People just see it as a wasted effort, and I tend to agree, it seems like another "Lets get it out and make a quick buck" thing. I feel like the reason they aren't working on DR2 or haven't announced it is because they are thinking the story over, and it ended in a sort of set in stone ending. They didn't leave much room for change, but I think if that is the reason they are looking too far into it. Just make another game and act like DR1 didn't even happen for all I care. falconclan

Both ending A and ending B easily allow for a new story.
[spoiler] The true ending has them finding out that Carlito had sent out "parasite bombs" in 50 foster children who, like Frank, were given an "antidote" to impede the spread of the zombification and thus make them literally walking time bombs waiting to go off. In Ending B, the one where you fail to do the case files, it says that Willamette was "the first of many zombie outbreaks across America," thus leading me to believe that in combination with the rumour about DR2 being set in Vegas and there being a Vegas dot on the map shown in the true ending, that there will be a second DR and it will be in Vegas and may or may not involve Frank. [/spoiler]
I want Dead Rising 2 more than any other sequel... and if any game deserves a sequel it is Dead Rising.
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[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]As a massive Dead Rising fanboy I get sick to my stomach everytime I think of someone having to ever play the Wii version of the game. There is good porting, like RE4 to Wii and then there is bad porting... Dead Rising to Wii. Ports should always move up on hardware, never down, no matter how big the casual audience is... and Dead Rising is a game that is far from appealing to casual gamers. It's hard, tedious and frustrating, exactly the opposite of what many casual gamers want in a game. Of course, they could just remove everything that makes it Dead Rising and make it into a game casuals would like... which is what it looks like they are doing.

What pisses me off is we get this crap instead of a sequel to the best game on the 360.
Zhengi

I kind of wonder about that. DR did sell a million, but it seems like Capcom did not get as much profit as they wanted or else there would already be a sequel... but then, it's quite possible they're already working on one and we just don't know about it yet.

Of course, I still don't understand why people get pissed off at this port. If you want a sequel, get more people to buy the first game. This is a prime example of why sales matter. People in SW keep saying that sales don't matter unless you are a stock holder and here you have games not receiving sequels due to sales.

And seriously, who cares if it's getting ported to the Wii? You really think people will care that you feel sorry that they get to play DR on the Wii? I still don't understand how this affects anyone hating on the game.

People just see it as a wasted effort, and I tend to agree, it seems like another "Lets get it out and make a quick buck" thing. I feel like the reason they aren't working on DR2 or haven't announced it is because they are thinking the story over, and it ended in a sort of set in stone ending. They didn't leave much room for change, but I think if that is the reason they are looking too far into it. Just make another game and act like DR1 didn't even happen for all I care.

Well, wasted effort or quick buck, who knows at this point. But it is interesting that they got the game to work on the RE4 engine. To me, it seems like they put plenty of effort into it to make it work. We'll see how it turns out though. I'm not saying it's going to be great, but I'm geniunely interested to see how it will turn out.

No doubt that it could be good with motion controls in my mind. I think it would be beatiful, can you say chainsaw? But the problem I have is that it is going to be so butchered by the wiis hardware that it just won't be the same.

Like lets just say they manage to get HALF the zombies on screen, which even then I'd be pretty impressed that the wii could handle it, but can you imagine having as much fun running through that crowd with a katana? I can't, I'm sure it'd be fine, but it just won't be the same experience without that amount of zombies and blood and guts. It was the gruesomness and the ability to do almost anything that made the game so great.

This will also dumb down the gameplay a lot. I mean it will still be hard I think, but the amount of zombies being slashed will just about make every objective easier.

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[QUOTE="falconclan"]People just see it as a wasted effort, and I tend to agree, it seems like another "Lets get it out and make a quick buck" thing. I feel like the reason they aren't working on DR2 or haven't announced it is because they are thinking the story over, and it ended in a sort of set in stone ending. They didn't leave much room for change, but I think if that is the reason they are looking too far into it. Just make another game and act like DR1 didn't even happen for all I care. foxhound_fox

Both ending A and ending B easily allow for a new story.
[spoiler] The true ending has them finding out that Carlito had sent out "parasite bombs" in 50 foster children who, like Frank, were given an "antidote" to impede the spread of the zombification and thus make them literally walking time bombs waiting to go off. In Ending B, the one where you fail to do the case files, it says that Willamette was "the first of many zombie outbreaks across America," thus leading me to believe that in combination with the rumour about DR2 being set in Vegas and there being a Vegas dot on the map shown in the true ending, that there will be a second DR and it will be in Vegas and may or may not involve Frank. [/spoiler]
I want Dead Rising 2 more than any other sequel... and if any game deserves a sequel it is Dead Rising.

Well, I have admitably not played the game through for either of those endings in a very long time, but I have played it quite a bit, and is by far my favorite game this gen. If it wasn't I wouldn't have bothered doing the 7 days achievement. It was a ton of fun.
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Well, we have no details yet if it is a linear action game. So far, it sounds like it retains some of the sandbox survival aspects, but with more RE sty.le shooting. Let's wait till there is actual gameplay before we decide. Zhengi

It really doesn't matter... Dead Rising isn't fun because of the missions. It's fun because you can go into the underground maintenance tunnels and run over a carpet of zombies from wall-to-wall with no performance hit. And I think a RE4 ****camera angle would be a stupid addition to Dead Rising... it is more about hand-to-hand combat, melee weapon combat and avoiding zombies than it is shooting.

I will pass judgement on the game before I see details because there is no way the Wii could support the amount of zombies on-screen as the 360 version. It will only be an inferior version of a quality game. That screenshot shown on GS already proves it.
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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.foxhound_fox

It is "Dawn of the Dead" in game form. It is meant to be a sandbox survival game, no a linear action game like the RE series.

Ya, know exactly what you mean.

The things is that a lot of people who liked the game still hated the save system and some of the sandbox elements so I had already excepted that some of the stuff I loved would be cut out of the series. Now I am worried Capcom will turn Dead Rising 2 into a sequel of the Wii version and not the true version.

I hope I am flat out dead wrong.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.Coyo7e


It is "Dawn of the Dead" in game form. It is meant to be a sandbox survival game, no a linear action game like the RE series.

Ya, know exactly what you mean.

The things is that a lot of people who liked the game still hated the save system and some of the sandbox elements so I had already excepted that some of the stuff I loved would be cut out of the series. Now I am worried Capcom will turn Dead Rising 2 into a sequel of the Wii version and not the true version.

I hope I am flat out dead wrong.

You are and I think sales will show that capcom is just wasting their time putting games like DR on the wii. The wii is an alright console, but as someone already said nothing about this game fits. Its more hardcore, and far too gruesome for your average wii player. Im quite surprised RE4 sold so well, maybe this will shock me, but I just can't see this game selling half as well, or even a fourth as well as the xbox 360 version.
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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]RE is great for what it is. Dead Rising is NOT AN RE GAME. It was a game made in the spirit, a direct nod too, great zombie movie classics. Dealing with an ocean of zombies was fun. Taking this game and making it another zombie shooter is a damn shame. We already have those, we don't need more.falconclan


It is "Dawn of the Dead" in game form. It is meant to be a sandbox survival game, no a linear action game like the RE series.

Ya, know exactly what you mean.

The things is that a lot of people who liked the game still hated the save system and some of the sandbox elements so I had already excepted that some of the stuff I loved would be cut out of the series. Now I am worried Capcom will turn Dead Rising 2 into a sequel of the Wii version and not the true version.

I hope I am flat out dead wrong.

You are and I think sales will show that capcom is just wasting their time putting games like DR on the wii. The wii is an alright console, but as someone already said nothing about this game fits. Its more hardcore, and far too gruesome for your average wii player. Im quite surprised RE4 sold so well, maybe this will shock me, but I just can't see this game selling half as well, or even a fourth as well as the xbox 360 version.

I hope you hit the nail on the head. I always though of Capcom as a company that was made by gamers for gamers. Sure, I don't like all their games, I even hate some, I just hope Dead Rising 2 is not effected.

*keeping fingers crossed*