It's time for a new Killzone for 2015 are u excited?!

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Poll It's time for a new Killzone for 2015 are u excited?! (152 votes)

I'm excited for a new Killzone 15%
Lol Killzone 68%
Not sure yet 19%

While GG is making a new IP, they also most likely have been working on the new Killzone to present at E3. It's been 2 years since 2013, and the time is right. Killzone 5, or whatever they will call the new title,. will most likely be going head to head with Halo 5, if not competing in the same holiday season at least.

So is anybody highly anticipating the next Killzone after Shadowfall? Maybe there will be elements of GG new Rpg IP inside the game.

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#51  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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lol Crapzone!

lol Garbage Games!

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#52 Eikichi-Onizuka
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I've never played Killzone before, but will play Mercenary now since I got it with PS+.

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#53 Moistcarrot
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After they fucked up the plot so badly in Shadowfall I'm not sure where they could take the series next.

It was a pretty game though.

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#54 Big_Pecks
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If it's not even good as a console launch title then it's not relevant.

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#55 ConanTheStoner
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I don't even have standards for FPS games and I still think KZ is garbage.

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#56  Edited By jamejame
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I loved the series up until Shadow Fall which was pretty freaking disappointing. It had so much going for it but the shooting and AI just got thrown out the window in favor for some CoD crap. Still open to a Killzone 5, but I'll be especially wary now.

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#57 Shewgenja
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I actually rather liked KillZone 2. Even though controllers are shit for FPS, the heaviness of it seemed to be a good trade-off.

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#58 cantloginnow
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Why do people still bring up this garbage.They've always been crap games.

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#59 Heil68
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Hell yeah. one of the best FPS on the market today.

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#60  Edited By remiks00
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Killzone is such a shit series, no offense. They've tried time & time again to be the "halo killer", and quite frankly, ...it's time to throw in the towel.

I'd rather them purely focus on Project Horizon or any other fresh IP. That game's concept art looks awesome.

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#61 onewiththegame
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Kilzone 2 had great multiplayer other than that it hasn't been a good franchise

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#62 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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I think Killzone 2 was a fluke. If they can make a game like that again, but with no input lag and solid 30fps, i'm down.

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#63  Edited By lamprey263
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Not sure yet. Killzone kind of had things working against it that I largely pushed aside because I really liked the setting and the design choices in the games giving them a distinct feel. I liked the rustic, large industrial wasteland looks of the games, that sometimes grandiose scale of the world's industrial architecture, that it's futuristic yet has a kind of more modern militaristic quality to it, and the large shock and awe campaigns. It took a while to warm up to KZ 2 & 3, but Shadow Fall totally doesn't look interesting to me given the design choices they made and what I've seen from it, rather than rustic it's very clean, rather than it's modern military qualities it's taken a more futuristic design. I don't like how it looks that they overpowered the player and gone all futuristic with the equipment, or instead of being part of a larger military campaign the player appears to be more part of a small elite unit on their own. Petty, maybe, but I genuinely feel these design choices weighed on me. Granted I'm not trying to dislike this game because of my fanboy biases, I genuinely liked the older Killzone games, something about this one doesn't sit right with me. Regardless, I'll probably get Shadow Fall once I get a PS4. Still, if I had one wish for a sequel, it'd be to appeal more to those design choices of the older games. If there was room to improve on the series they should hire better writers as that's the area I feel needs more work than anything else.

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#64 sailor232
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Loved 2, liked 3, don't own a ps4 so haven't played SF, I'd like to though, I think the lore in KZ is excellent, love the Helghast. I say yes to a new one, though done right.

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#65 Cloud_imperium
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Clownzone.

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#66 TJDMHEM
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not sure yet.

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#67 jsmoke03
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so this is based on an assumption?

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#68 zassimick  Moderator
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I've given Killzone enough tries and I've found it's just not for me. So I'll probably pass if one is coming.

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#69 Notorious1234NA
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@TigerSuperman said:

@Juub1990 said:

Killzone has always been garbage. They should just quit and focus on something else.

Shadow Falls sold up from 2 million copies. What other FPS do they have that does that? Or had anyway.

it sold b/c it was one of the only good launch titles to buy + bundle....apart from that KZ is a more tactical FPS hence why many people do not like it.

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#70  Edited By Pariah-
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Killzone 2 was good--if flawed.

Killzone 3 was trash.

Killzone: Shadowfall was beautiful.......but also trash.

The big problem with the franchise is the terrible writing. They need to get a competent writer on the project and have him stick to ONE. FUCKING. NARRATIVE. They keep trying to jump around all over the place, attempting to find some kind of story-telling sweet spot that ranges from deconstructions of Hitler-esque demagoguery to Corporatism to Apartheid, but they constantly fail--miserably. Now the entire Killzone universe is a just a big mess of unrealized ideas and shitty plot devices.

Also, one of the things that made Killzone 2 great was that they had a bunch of skirmish missions rather than just you're typical Ops shit. Guerrilla should have built on that, but they didn't.

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#71 finalstar2007
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Only FPS i care about this gen is Destiny.

unless Activision remasters Modern Warfare 2 for PS4 then that will be my next interest lol

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#72  Edited By GrayF0X786
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make it more like KZ2 and less like KZ3.

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#73  Edited By Epak_
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Shadowfall was decent, imo Vita has the best KZ at the moment. Halo 5 will crush KZ5 if they're going to make it. They should try something new.

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#74 StrongDeadlift
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You know what they always say.........Seventh times the charm.

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#75 BobRossPerm
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The only new FPS franchise I would trust from Sony would be one from Naughty Dog. Since they have an incredible ability to make any derivative genre feel fresh again. Look what they did with the zombie apocalypse.

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#76 sukraj
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No I'm not excited

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#77 BobRossPerm
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@sukraj said:

No I'm not excited

If Far Cry 5 was PS4 exclusive, what would you do?

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#78 CrashNeoSigma
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Killzone is garbage

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#79 iambatman7986
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No thank you. Didn't care for 2, never played 3 and SF was a very weak entry that I regret buying.

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#80 SecretPolice
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I'd only be excited for more SW fireworks for another PS4 exclusive floppage so does that count? P

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@notorious1234na said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@Juub1990 said:

Killzone has always been garbage. They should just quit and focus on something else.

Shadow Falls sold up from 2 million copies. What other FPS do they have that does that? Or had anyway.

it sold b/c it was one of the only good launch titles to buy + bundle....apart from that KZ is a more tactical FPS hence why many people do not like it.

LOl tactical are you ok man?

@cantloginnow said:

Why do people still bring up this garbage.They've always been crap games.

One of Sony's best selling franchises?

@remiks00 said:

Killzone is such a shit series, no offense. They've tried time & time again to be the "halo killer", and quite frankly, ...it's time to throw in the towel.

I'd rather them purely focus on Project Horizon or any other fresh IP. That game's concept art looks awesome.

Why? Why throw in the towel at a multi-million selling feranchise? DId you notice that they killed the other 7 attempts at FPS because Killzone constantly outsold everything else they tried?

@StrongDeadlift said:

You know what they always say.........Seventh times the charm.

If not mistaken right now Shadow Fall is the best selling PS4 exclusive, unless by seventh you mean as the halo killer.

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#82  Edited By TigerSuperman
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@ProtossX said:

@TigerSuperman said:

You mean the PC version that had the piles of complaints for running worse than on the Xbox One?

go into a PC game and put the settings on

1280 × 720

ok tiger did you do that now

look at the game alright?

now go back to settings and put on

1920 x 1080

do you notice anything different about how clear everything looks?

if not GET UR fucking eyes checked out by a doctor u fucking idiot

once a resolution is bumped up the game looks 1000x clearer and better and i literally CANNOT go back to lower setting ever

U fucking deal with that tiger, did u do the setting switch like i said on a pc game tiger did u?

Yep, you just keep being stupid and pretend that there wasn't tons of complaints for months after launch of the PC version being a terrible port that barely worked because you're a moron.

@FastRobby said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@Juub1990 said:

Killzone has always been garbage. They should just quit and focus on something else.

Shadow Falls sold up from 2 million copies. What other FPS do they have that does that? Or had anyway.

Since when does the number of copies sold have anything to do with quality of the product?

I know you're not very smart robby but if you read the context of the conversation the guy said "quit" and why would sony "quit" the franchise if it sells?

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#83  Edited By NyaDC
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Dat Halo Killer. Their studio saw the new Halo 5 commercials and quickly scrapped all future projects.

The series isn't even made by the creators anymore.

Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it.

You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. I live 10 away from them and have been to both studios, 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise...

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#84  Edited By Nengo_Flow
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@moistcarrot said:

After they fucked up the plot so badly in Shadowfall I'm not sure where they could take the series next.

It was a pretty game though.

ShadowFall was a slap in the face to KZ fans. That shit was garbage nonsense with crappy gameplay and dumb story, and horrible... horrible multiplayer. Had none of that KZ feeling to it.

ShadowFall was such a bad spin-off it has ruined the Killzone brand. If they dont make another proper Killzone in the style of KZ2 or 3, the series is dead and a waste of time for the devs to continue with it.

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#85  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@nyadc said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Dat Halo Killer. Their studio saw the new Halo 5 commercials and quickly scrapped all future projects.

The series isn't even made by the creators anymore.

Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it.

You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. I live 10 away from them and have been to both studios, 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise...

I honestly can't believe you brought up location as a stance to say that 343 is as good as Bungie or is good in general or whatever.

Thats literally the dumbest thing I've heard on these forums.

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#86 cantloginnow
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TigerSuperman sales don't makes games good.Killzone is a mediocre franchise,there's no debate.If Shadowfall wasn't a launch title it would have flopped in sales and reviews.

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#87 Daious
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Let Killzone die and revive Resistance please

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#88 Extrodinare101
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If it was like KZ2, anything else? NTY

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#89 Shewgenja
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At least if someone makes a KillZone game, it will actually be Guerrilla. I mean, Xbox has Halo made by not-so-Bungie and Gears of War hasn't been made by Epic in a minute. Soon, Forza might be outsourced as well if all this keeps up.

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#90 zeeshanhaider
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@SecretPolice said:

I'd only be excited for more SW fireworks for another PS4 exclusive floppage so does that count? P

Now that you put it up like that, he yeah, I'm up for another Crapzone.

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#91 StrongDeadlift
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@daious said:

Let Killzone die and revive Resistance please

This. After every failed attempt before it, Resistance finally gets good and becomes a worthy franchise at 3, and they drop it like a hot potato, after pushing the only good game out with no marketing to die and scrubbing their hands of it.

The thing that is the most bizzare to me is.......somewhere......on earth.....there are people. Humans.......who ASKED for this. Think about that. Someone, somewhere at some point uttered the phrase "moar killzone". Those are words another human has unironically stated at some point. MIND BLOWN.

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@TigerSuperman: yes I am and KZ franchise in general is more tactical than the mainstream shooters and has been since KZ2 with its at the time rarely seen in console FPS games, competitive dev support.

In BF4 - COD games, you can pick up any gun shoot, run n gun is preferred (not right way) and no emphasis on squad play or team. What is disturbing is that you can win this way. The main reason many people give KZ a bad rap is not because the game sucks well story does, but because the multiplayer is vastly different from what many COD players are accustomed too. Warzone is probably the most popular way to play KZ since KZ2. You are forced to follow objectives and not rewarded for killing or going solo since for starters health doesn't regenerate easily without medics. If your team is disorganized or can not be carried by a squad, KZ multiplayer is unforgiving more so than COD. Spawn killing and pinning down opponents is actually a strategy and not a cheap mechanic in this game simply because the payer has the power to tactfully choose where to spawn.

KZ is designed in a way where unlike COD you can't be an ace with any gun and not one weapon fits all. A good team must be willing to switch and use ALL classes in order to win. For example, if the enemy team has a decent amount of invisible snipers or scouts, but your team only has assault you will lose because you wont get any radar and can not find the invisible snipers. If enemy team is defending a capture point and your team only has scouts and assault, your team will lose because of the lack of spawns-HP-ammo from the support class.

Next, the weapons in this game are designed so that each has a crippling weakness. For example, the most powerful sniper rifle in the game has arguably the longest reload time and ADS meaning miss one shot enemy must really suck if you are not dead. A powerful LMG that support class uses has a rapid rate of fire, accurate at long distances, but you are not allowed to crouch. A medic who can't properly take cover.

Lastly, nearly every OP power in game that each class has, is coupled with a severe weakness. If you do not use it properly you are asking to be killed and how many casuals do you think will actually look at their surroundings to make sure it is safe before using KZ version of UAV? In KZ using UAV inappropriately alerts the enemy to your whereabouts. So for comparison purposes, imagine playing COD using KZs UAV and bingo the enemy now not only knows exactly where you are, but also has a rough idea of your squads position making UAV a double edged sword. The ability to create your own spawns is a great on paper, but in real life giving that to the the millions of disorganized FPS trolls spells disaster.

Many players don't take into account the small differences between classes and refuse to switch. Then add spawn trolls to the mix as well as powers with risks = annoying game. Its not as simple as getting into a plain and wrecking havoc like BF3 was for a while or cycling through your killstreaks and boom 15 kills.

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#93  Edited By Daious
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@StrongDeadlift said:

@daious said:

Let Killzone die and revive Resistance please

This. After every failed attempt before it, Resistance finally gets good and becomes a worthy franchise at 3, and they drop it like a hot potato, after pushing the only good game out with no marketing to die and scrubbing their hands of it.

The thing that is the most bizzare to me is.......somewhere......on earth.....there are people. Humans.......who ASKED for this. Think about that. Someone, somewhere at some point uttered the phrase "moar killzone". Those are words another human has unironically stated at some point. MIND BLOWN.

Killzone has always been a terrible franchise. Iteration after iteration, the game still isn't fun. It has never really met the hype around it.

Resistance got better with every iteration (minus the co-op). The co-op in Resistance 2 was the best part of the game.

Resistance finally hits its stride and Sony left it for dead. Instead we got a resistance vita game that I heard was horrendous. It bombs in sales and Sony abandons the franchise.


I know how you feel. There is someone in sony that greenlighted the production for a new killzone while pulling the plug on Resistance.

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#94 misterpmedia
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@notorious1234na said:

Nice break down.

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#95  Edited By remiks00
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@TigerSuperman: I don't give a rats ass how much it sold. The series is dogshit.. End of story.

lol, they are adults, they can make whatever they want. They can make Killzone 5,6,7 for all I care. Doesn't change the fact that the franchise is whack dude. I've played and tried to like every one of those games, and they all just felt mediocre at best. -- It sells a lot? I guess a lot of people like mediocre games with pretty graphics. What else is new?

All I'm saying is, they need to focus on something potentially better. Another Killzone is a waste of talent. They never hit the mark that they wanted to with the series, and it's time to move on. Show me Project Horizon, or a new IP GG.

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#96  Edited By NyaDC
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@nyadc said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Dat Halo Killer. Their studio saw the new Halo 5 commercials and quickly scrapped all future projects.

The series isn't even made by the creators anymore.

Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it.

You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. I live 10 away from them and have been to both studios, 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise...

I honestly can't believe you brought up location as a stance to say that 343 is as good as Bungie or is good in general or whatever.

Thats literally the dumbest thing I've heard on these forums.

Are you serious right now? How could not understand what I said, seriously how... Are you completely illiterate....

You

"Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it."

Me

"You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise..."

What in gods name are you even babbling about, you're implying that 343 is some entirely new developer, they're not, they have previous Bungie developers in their employ to help and give the company as a whole guidance. I provided the location so you would understand that 343 is literally right down the street from Bungie, it was easy for them to acquire employees and developers still interested in working on Halo... How can you be so thick headed...

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#97 bundleofnumbers
Member since 2015 • 103 Posts

I'd be fine with no killzone

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#98  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
Member since 2014 • 7805 Posts

@nyadc said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@nyadc said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Dat Halo Killer. Their studio saw the new Halo 5 commercials and quickly scrapped all future projects.

The series isn't even made by the creators anymore.

Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it.

You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. I live 10 away from them and have been to both studios, 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise...

I honestly can't believe you brought up location as a stance to say that 343 is as good as Bungie or is good in general or whatever.

Thats literally the dumbest thing I've heard on these forums.

Are you serious right now? How could not understand what I said, seriously how... Are you completely illiterate....

You

"Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it."

Me

"You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise..."

What in gods name are you even babbling about, you're implying that 343 is some entirely new developer, they're not, they have previous Bungie developers in their employ to help and give the company as a whole guidance. I provided the location so you would understand that 343 is literally right down the street from Bungie, it was easy for them to acquire employees and developers still interested in working on Halo... How can you be so thick headed...

Did you or did you not reference the location of 343 studios to the Bungie studio as exhibit to how good the talent is there which in turn will make future Halo games good?

B/c you did.

And thats dumb.

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#99  Edited By NyaDC
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@nyadc said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@nyadc said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Dat Halo Killer. Their studio saw the new Halo 5 commercials and quickly scrapped all future projects.

The series isn't even made by the creators anymore.

Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it.

You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. I live 10 away from them and have been to both studios, 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise...

I honestly can't believe you brought up location as a stance to say that 343 is as good as Bungie or is good in general or whatever.

Thats literally the dumbest thing I've heard on these forums.

Are you serious right now? How could not understand what I said, seriously how... Are you completely illiterate....

You

"Not sure how stellar its going to be....or how stellar it was in the first place if another dev can come in and make it."

Me

"You do realize that 343 and Bungie are two miles away from each other right, 343 is in Kirkland and Bungie is in Bellevue. 343 has previous Bungie employees in their staff, they're not just making Halo games with no incite or direction in the franchise..."

What in gods name are you even babbling about, you're implying that 343 is some entirely new developer, they're not, they have previous Bungie developers in their employ to help and give the company as a whole guidance. I provided the location so you would understand that 343 is literally right down the street from Bungie, it was easy for them to acquire employees and developers still interested in working on Halo... How can you be so thick headed...

Did you or did you not reference the location of 343 studios to the Bungie studio as exhibit to how good the talent is there which in turn will make future Halo games good?

B/c you did.

And thats dumb.

No I did not, I did it as a point of reference to them acquiring Bungie talent because they're literally right down the street from each other.... So to say they're this entirely new developer as if they have no incite into the Halo franchise is idiotic... They have previous Bungie employees in their staff....

Jesus Christ dude.... You need to take a class on contextual writing and understanding, how do you even come to such a stupid conclusion from what I said, it's not even remotely implied... Like what in the hell are you thinking...

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#100  Edited By locopatho
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No, it's been 10 years and no Killzone is better than any of the Halo games. Well I didn't play 3, but I doubt it broke the pattern. These games would fall in with crap like Frontlines: Fuels Of War and Homefront if they weren't Sony branded, exclusive, advertised, bundled, and used in "fanboy wars"

@Shewgenja said:

At least if someone makes a KillZone game, it will actually be Guerrilla. I mean, Xbox has Halo made by not-so-Bungie and Gears of War hasn't been made by Epic in a minute. Soon, Forza might be outsourced as well if all this keeps up.

Guerilla are a shitty dev that made a shitty series though, while 343 proved with Halo 4 that they were well up for taking over from Bungie. I'll take a great dev passing the torch to a new dev, compared to a consistently bad dev.