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#1 Foxhound_spy
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Itagaki during M$ TGS 2007 show press conference

Now please enjoy the world`s best action game, running on the world`s most powerful hardware..............

8.00 ? The best action game in the world ?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Don`t talk too big next time..........

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#2 Chutebox
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Come on man lol.

No need...

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#3 EuroMafia
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he is selling his game, what do you expect.
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#4 Gaara79
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It's still the best next gen action game.:P And the only games it pales to are NG and NGB8)
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Itagaki during M$ TGS 2007 show press conference

Now please enjoy the world`s best action game, running on the world`s most powerful hardware..............

8.00 ? The best action game in the world ?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Don`t talk too big next time..........

Foxhound_spy

Wow, good spot. Why don't you spend more of your free time going through year old videos pointing out mistakes, discrepancies and lies. Because that would definitely be awesome.

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#6 NinjaMunkey01
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he is selling his game, what do you expect.EuroMafia

I know but he made a fool of himself. Its like when sony started saying all those things about the ps3. It only hurts you.

Its not the best action game and he has never developed on the ps3 so he cannot say whch is the most powerfull console.

But he says hardware, does that mean he thinks the 360 is more powerfull than a computer?

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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]he is selling his game, what do you expect.NinjaMunkey01

I know but he made a fool of himself. Its like when sony started saying all those things about the ps3. It only hurts you.

Its not the best action game and he has never developed on the ps3 so he cannot say whch is the most powerfull console.

But he says hardware, does that mean he thinks the 360 is more powerfull than a computer?

who knows, he said it in japanese, translator said that so technically it wasn't him :P
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#8 Miss_Wacy
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the game is good but i think NG is better, i hate the new dodge thing in it, preferd the one in NG
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#9 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]he is selling his game, what do you expect.EuroMafia

I know but he made a fool of himself. Its like when sony started saying all those things about the ps3. It only hurts you.

Its not the best action game and he has never developed on the ps3 so he cannot say whch is the most powerfull console.

But he says hardware, does that mean he thinks the 360 is more powerfull than a computer?

who knows, he said it in japanese, translator said that so technically it wasn't him :P

I know but its funny how he boasts how his game is great, then it turns out its just ok.

Then you have Kojima, being modest and saying its not perfect, then it gets the perfect score.

I think sometimes translations are done a little wrong but you must admit, the beter person got the better score. Itakagi sound like a really annoying person. I am not suprised his superiors told him to leave or sue them. They were probably hoping he would leave...

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#10 Saturos3091
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It's still the best next gen action game.:P And the only games it pales to are NG and NGB8)Gaara79


Maybe just NGB, seeing as you could just Flying Swallow the whole game in the original. :P
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#11 spidermonkey11
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Threads like these make me not want to come back to system wars. Oh noes an 8 oh noes a 10....

Oh noes the soda drank me..................

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#12 akif22
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this is nothing compared to the hype and BS of sony execs
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]he is selling his game, what do you expect.NinjaMunkey01

I know but he made a fool of himself. Its like when sony started saying all those things about the ps3. It only hurts you.

Its not the best action game and he has never developed on the ps3 so he cannot say whch is the most powerfull console.

But he says hardware, does that mean he thinks the 360 is more powerfull than a computer?

who knows, he said it in japanese, translator said that so technically it wasn't him :P

I know but its funny how he boasts how his game is great, then it turns out its just ok.

Then you have Kojima, being modest and saying its not perfect, then it gets the perfect score.

I think sometimes translations are done a little wrong but you must admit, the beter person got the better score. Itakagi sound like a really annoying person. I am not suprised his superiors told him to leave or sue them. They were probably hoping he would leave...

Except the Ninja Gaiden series still has a batter score than the MGS series.

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Itagaki during M$ TGS 2007 show press conference

Now please enjoy the world`s best action game, running on the world`s most powerful hardware..............

8.00 ? The best action game in the world ?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Don`t talk too big next time..........

Foxhound_spy

its a bit like sonys E3 2005, the PS3 ended up nothing like what they showed their.

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''Lair only possible on PS3'' :lol: dont forget about that cows, it turned out to be one of the biggest flops in gaming history.
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#16 alberth123123
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even with an 8.0 NGII is still the best action game ever
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#17 -GhostMLD-
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NG2 is actually outselling every other entry in the series. And its only its 3rd week.
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#18 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]he is selling his game, what do you expect.usmcjdk6

I know but he made a fool of himself. Its like when sony started saying all those things about the ps3. It only hurts you.

Its not the best action game and he has never developed on the ps3 so he cannot say whch is the most powerfull console.

But he says hardware, does that mean he thinks the 360 is more powerfull than a computer?

who knows, he said it in japanese, translator said that so technically it wasn't him :P

I know but its funny how he boasts how his game is great, then it turns out its just ok.

Then you have Kojima, being modest and saying its not perfect, then it gets the perfect score.

I think sometimes translations are done a little wrong but you must admit, the beter person got the better score. Itakagi sound like a really annoying person. I am not suprised his superiors told him to leave or sue them. They were probably hoping he would leave...

Except the Ninja Gaiden series still has a batter score than the MGS series.

Now I realise that you are talking about the whole series, but thwe fact is we are talking about NG2, which itagaki said would be the best action game ever. MGS4 beat it. the other games scores have nothing to do with this.

gamespot NG2 score: 8

Gamespot MGS4 score: 10

On gamerrankings

MGS4: 93.2

NG2: 83.2

Thats it. Itagaki was WRONG. Get over it.

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Now I realise that you are talking about the whole series, but thwe fact is we are talking about NG2, which itagaki said would be the best action game ever. MGS4 beat it. the other games scores have nothing to do with this.

gamespot NG2 score: 8

Gamespot MGS4 score: 10

On gamerrankings

MGS4: 93.2

NG2: 83.2

Thats it. Itagaki was WRONG. Get over it.

NinjaMunkey01

Are you really comparing MGS to NG? Extrememly bad comparison.

If you can only compare two franchises by their latest games then Forza owns GT hard.

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#20 ToScA-
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It's quite evident that the game was rushed or that not enough effort was put into it due to the fact that Itagaki left the studio in an instant, suing Tecmo as well.
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#21 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

Now I realise that you are talking about the whole series, but thwe fact is we are talking about NG2, which itagaki said would be the best action game ever. MGS4 beat it. the other games scores have nothing to do with this.

gamespot NG2 score: 8

Gamespot MGS4 score: 10

On gamerrankings

MGS4: 93.2

NG2: 83.2

Thats it. Itagaki was WRONG. Get over it.

JLF1

Are you really comparing MGS to NG? Extrememly bad comparison.

If you can only compare two franchises by their latest games then Forza owns GT hard.

Yes I am comparing MGS4 to NG2. Read my other posts. I started by saying how gunny it is that the person who was modest (Kojami) made the better game. It shows how stupid one man can make himself look.

Then someone else said that NG was better than MGS, but the fact is we are discussing the newer games.

I was not discussing the whole series, just the newer ones. I could compare franchises using all the games but I was not trying to compare a franchise, like I said in my post. I was just comparing 2 game.

I tried to say that but obviously you read my post wrong.

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#22 shotputking
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ahhhh, behold the ignorance of the fanboy.

1) MGS4 and NG 2 are in no way similar or comparable games. i believe that soul calibur for dreamcast got a perfect 10 as well, so should be comparing that to MGS4? what about the legend of zelda ocarina of time? action games get scored A LOT tougher because there is just too much to them, when compared to a shooter of any kind, or any kind of less intense action game. DMC4 and NG2 both got 8.0's on gamespot... so? they are both great, great games.

2) yeah, behond the best action game of this generation. it is, so far at least, the best action game out there. this game was made for hte fans of the original, not for japanese fanboys. NG 2 is faster, tougher, bloodier and more intense than the original, and that's what all the fans wanted.

3) NG2 has it's flaws. i can overlook them, because it's a truly great game, but the detractors will always pile on to them. no, it's definitely not as polished as NG or NGB... well, when you release a game in 2 years, and are having massive problems with your employer (see: itagaki sueing tecmo) you're going to have a less polished game than a game that you spent 5 years making, under presumably better circumstances. if the slowdown on the part where you fight about 100 enemies on a set of stairs late in the game, or dealing with a sick amount of projectiles flieing at you at all times on higher difficulties ruins the game for you, then i'm sorry to hear that, and have fun with mgs4, which i'm sure is an amazing game for fans of the series. me? i'm going to enjoy putting a couple hundred hours into becoming a master ninja, because NG2 is everything i hoped it would be, besides the rare framerate and/or optimization problem.

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Now I realise that you are talking about the whole series, but thwe fact is we are talking about NG2, which itagaki said would be the best action game ever. MGS4 beat it. the other games scores have nothing to do with this.

gamespot NG2 score: 8

Gamespot MGS4 score: 10

On gamerrankings

MGS4: 93.2

NG2: 83.2

Thats it. Itagaki was WRONG. Get over it.

NinjaMunkey01

You...are comparing MGS4...to NG2. Please tell me you are not serious.

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#24 jg4xchamp
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Wow a little late with this one.

Majority of the SW community is moving on to our next thing to argue about....
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#25 jg4xchamp
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Ok wow dude making MGS comparison with Ninja Gaiden

MGS is a stealth game

Ninja Gaiden is pure action

Ninja Giaden should be compared with a God of War or a Devil May Cry

Where as MGS is compared with a Thief, Splintercell.

If not then GTA 4 should be compared in this as well.

Half Life 2 is an action oriented game

and the list would go on forever.
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#26 Shafftehr
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I know but its funny how he boasts how his game is great, then it turns out its just ok.

Then you have Kojima, being modest and saying its not perfect, then it gets the perfect score.

I think sometimes translations are done a little wrong but you must admit, the beter person got the better score. Itakagi sound like a really annoying person. I am not suprised his superiors told him to leave or sue them. They were probably hoping he would leave...

NinjaMunkey01


Actually, I don't think they really care about Gamespot as much as the Gamespot system Wars people do... And off Gamespot MGSIV is the lowest averaged AAAA game to ever come off Gamespot, being beaten out by many AAA's Cows call overrated and absolutely slaughtered by the recent GS AAAA GTA IV.... So, unless Kojima lives and dies by Gamespot scores, the reviewing community on average agrees with him - great, but not perfect.
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#27 II_Seraphim_II
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Come on man lol.

No need...

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#28 Andrew_Xavier
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At least he isn't Peter Molyneux with his "This game will re-invent reality as we know it, you won't be the same after you've played Fable (1), every other game will seem old and useless."
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#29 MaximumD
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Devil May Cry 4 is a better game, I'm sorry.
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#30 jg4xchamp
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Devil May Cry 4 is a better game, I'm sorry.MaximumD
Not really

Combat NG 2 is deeper and more fast paced

NG 2 actually has an enemy AI

The levels don't repeat like DMC 4

You don't do the same exact boss battle 3 times over

The only thing DMC really has over Ninja Gaiden is

Dante>Ryu

Thats about it. Oh and graphics.
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#31 Ballroompirate
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I never liked Itagaki.
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#32 hayato_
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Devil May Cry 4 is a better game, I'm sorry.MaximumD

Agree. Thats personal prefrence though. NG is badass in itself

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#33 waynehead895
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even with an 8.0 NGII is still the best action game everalberth123123
I'm with you on this.
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#34 shotputking
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i think that's an interesting debate, actually, which is better between DMC4 and NG2. it was an interesting debate with NGB and DMC3: SE.

DMC: i actually thought it had a great story, atmosphere, soundtrack, all that stuff. extreme replayability (i put 110 hours into it when i finally called it a day.) my biggest drawback though, was that it simply wasn't tough enough. an S-rank on DMD mode was disappointingly easy. not god of war easy, but easier than 3, or than i had hoped. the combat is just straight up, undeniably FUN, i could go through the bloody palace with nero all day and have a blast.

Ninja Gaiden: the simplest, oldest story in the book: bad guys steal relic to resurrect a great evil... somehow, it seems like i've seen this story in games about 900+ times. so no great story, none of that. soundtrack gets about a 6.5 out of 10 from me, so luckily i have custom soundtracks for further playthroughs. but the combat... wow, simply incredible how much deeper it is than anything out there, and it's as tough as i hoped it would be, i may end up playing this game for months.

so, coming from someone who loves both, has about 110 hours on DMC4, and 30 on NG2... i really can't decide which i like better so far.

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[QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]

Itagaki during M$ TGS 2007 show press conference

Now please enjoy the world`s best action game, running on the world`s most powerful hardware..............

8.00 ? The best action game in the world ?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Don`t talk too big next time..........

Jenova_Flare

Wow, good spot. Why don't you spend more of your free time going through year old videos pointing out mistakes, discrepancies and lies. Because that would definitely be awesome.

If he wasn't an ass I would agree with you, but itagaki is a majer ass TBH.
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#36 AlphaGamer469
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[QUOTE="Jenova_Flare"][QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]

Itagaki during M$ TGS 2007 show press conference

Now please enjoy the world`s best action game, running on the world`s most powerful hardware..............

8.00 ? The best action game in the world ?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Don`t talk too big next time..........

Mr_lulz

Wow, good spot. Why don't you spend more of your free time going through year old videos pointing out mistakes, discrepancies and lies. Because that would definitely be awesome.

If he wasn't an ass I would agree with you, but itagaki is a majer ass TBH.

Oh noes, a dev overhyping his own game. What has the world come to?

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#37 carljohnson3456
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I know but its funny how he boasts how his game is great, then it turns out its just ok.

Then you have Kojima, being modest and saying its not perfect, then it gets the perfect score.

I think sometimes translations are done a little wrong but you must admit, the beter person got the better score. Itakagi sound like a really annoying person. I am not suprised his superiors told him to leave or sue them. They were probably hoping he would leave...

NinjaMunkey01

Since when does an 8.0 make a game simply "ok"?

Man, what happened to the days when 7.5 and higher were called "good" games and 5-6 was called "medicore" and 4 and below were called "bad"???

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#39 RazMaTaz-1
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he is selling his game, what do you expect.EuroMafia

to be honest :| Shame really, NG2 was not that great.