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#51 rockzo
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CUS GRAPHICS EQUALS BETTER GAMES.................................RIGHT

crysis graphics where so good it actually made the story linebetter rigghttttttttt

and killzone2s graphics helped ppl forget that it was just another generic shooter riighttttt

and geow2s graphicsmade the characters FEEL LIKE they had better character development

AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT 8)

AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT

BlackTragedy

I don't even know where to begin with your post. But lets start out with a simple *facepalm

Secondly spell check and proof reading are your friends.

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#52 205212669269561485377169522720
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Not everybody plays games just for fun.

Visuals provide a level of immersion to accommodate an artistic and emotional narrative where being there and experiencing an alternate interpretation fo real life adds almost as much entertainment value as pressing the buttons. This is why people play games like Gran Turismo as opposed to Mario Kart or Call of Duty to Metroid.

Blue-Sky

This.

I usually hate graphics vs gameplay debates but this is the most well thought argument I've seen in a while. Just switch COD and Metroid for COD and some shooter on Wii since Metroid isn't exactly a FPS.

Also, even the best Wii games have nice graphics too. Look at Galaxy for ex. If it had crappy graphics do you guys think people would praise it so much?

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#53 DeadEndPanda
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people are fooling themselfs

useing the "good graphics ,bad gameplay" argument is the same as using the "nostalgia" argument

they just dont work that way.

most games really are good as a whole, not just the graphics.

but i agree that the main problem of SW and many reviewing websites is that they put way more into graphics

then they should.

graphics are a part of a videogame, but by no means half of it or even 1/3,

the video game argument dosent help either.

considering there is so much more to think about when making a game then graphics and gameplay.

depending on the genre there is also story,sound and many many more.

just think of it this way.

if graphics really were half of a video game, why dont they all just play interactive movies?

becouse the feeling isnt the same, thats why.

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#54 Brickz187
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I don't care what anyone says, but I do not want to play any games that look as horrible as Medal of Honor:Heroes 2 or Red Steel. I'm sorry I actually like my games to play good AND look good at the same time.

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#55 Roushrsh
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Then I wonder how FF7 became so successful despite it's horrid graphics...

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You're kidding right? At the time it was like one of the best looking games ever. Final Fantasy games always stun. AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT CGI.
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#56 Cait__Sith
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Usually good graphics, and good gameplay go hand in hand.

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#57 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="tekken220"]

Then I wonder how FF7 became so successful despite it's horrid graphics...

Roushrsh

You're kidding right? At the time it was like one of the best looking games ever. Final Fantasy games always stun. AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT CGI.

lol wut

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#58 Toriko42
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Graphics cover up a lot of things Graphics covered up Gears of War's lack of story Graphics covered up the fact that Killzone 2 didn't do anything new Graphics covered up the fact that Uncharted 2 didn't do anything new, it just did it a bit better etc. Who cares though, they're all decent games in their own right
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#59 tok1879
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CUS GRAPHICS EQUALS BETTER GAMES.................................RIGHT

crysis graphics where so good it actually made the story linebetter rigghttttttttt

and killzone2s graphics helped ppl forget that it was just another generic shooter riighttttt

and geow2s graphicsmade the characters FEEL LIKE they had better character development

AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT 8)

AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT

BlackTragedy
*looks at Wii MW* Yeah graphic helps *looks again* ...a lot!
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#60 agentfred
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from what I hear Crysis has an awesome story as well. xXDante666Xx
No, it was pretty terrible really. It was basically just an excuse to get you to fight some aliens. The gameplay on the other hand, was phenomenal, which may have been what you heard.
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#61 Arbiterisl33t69
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[QUOTE="Metalscarz"]

[QUOTE="Pices"]They don't matterPices

Yes they do.

Should they is another question.

But look at the fans and industry trend

Graphics do matter. Perhaps to much. But they sure as hell matter.

That's why I'm playing on a GTX 280 and PS3 and Xbox 360 instead of a Sega Master System or NES.

If they matter so much, then did it save Sonic 06, Haze and Too Human? No

No, because those games had terrible gameplay. You people act as if games can't do both graphics and gameplay, and that games can only have one of both.
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#62 awssk8er716
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Exactly why I prefer my Wii over my PS3.

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#63 ZookGuy
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Gee, I didn't know character development was such an important factor of a game >_>.
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#64 Arbiterisl33t69
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Exactly why I prefer my Wii over my PS3.

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Lol, yet PS3 has games with both better graphics AND better gameplay (not all of them, mind you, but a lot) Though admittedly, Wii has some good games with good graphics like SMG MP3 and a lot of 2010 titles look pretty good in both graphics and gameplay, too.
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#66 ActicEdge
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Graphics are important. Its just that System Warriors whore them beyond belief. Its important, its not worth making threads dedicated strictly to graphics and going ape **** over.

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#67 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Exactly why I prefer my Wii over my PS3.

Arbiterisl33t69

Lol, yet PS3 has games with both better graphics AND better gameplay (not all of them, mind you, but a lot) Though admittedly, Wii has some good games with good graphics like SMG MP3 and a lot of 2010 titles look pretty good in both graphics and gameplay, too.

That's such an opinionated statement. You prefering gameplay does not make it better. Despite his statement being completely irrelevant to anything, PS3 games are hardly better than Wii games, or 360 games or PS1 or SNES games for that matter in terms of gameplay. Its all opinion. Don't state it like its fact.

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#68 DeadEndPanda
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Exactly why I prefer my Wii over my PS3.

Arbiterisl33t69

Lol, yet PS3 has games with both better graphics AND better gameplay (not all of them, mind you, but a lot) Though admittedly, Wii has some good games with good graphics like SMG MP3 and a lot of 2010 titles look pretty good in both graphics and gameplay, too.

and yet, we still have to see a game on the ps3 that comes close to SMG :/

see? opinions are fun

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#69 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Exactly why I prefer my Wii over my PS3.

DeadEndPanda

Lol, yet PS3 has games with both better graphics AND better gameplay (not all of them, mind you, but a lot) Though admittedly, Wii has some good games with good graphics like SMG MP3 and a lot of 2010 titles look pretty good in both graphics and gameplay, too.

and yet, we still have to see a game on the ps3 that comes close to SMG :/

see? opinions are fun

Not when they are just snarky and have no base. despite SMG being my favourite game this gen, I hate to see the game degraded by being dragged into SW arguments.

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#70 Arbiterisl33t69
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[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"] [QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Exactly why I prefer my Wii over my PS3.

DeadEndPanda

Lol, yet PS3 has games with both better graphics AND better gameplay (not all of them, mind you, but a lot) Though admittedly, Wii has some good games with good graphics like SMG MP3 and a lot of 2010 titles look pretty good in both graphics and gameplay, too.

That's such an opinionated statement. You prefering gameplay does not make it better. Despite his statement being completely irrelevant to anything, PS3 games are hardly better than Wii games, or 360 games or PS1 or SNES games for that matter in terms of gameplay. Its all opinion. Don't state it like its fact.

Oh ****, now that I read it again it did come out as if I was stating a fact. My apologies. I've never sounded like such a cow in my life.

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#71 SilverChimera
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graphics dont matter thats why

Deus ex>>> any other shooter

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but it's a carbon copy of Doom :P :lol: :| :evil:
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#72 Cait__Sith
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

graphics dont matter thats why

Deus ex>>> any other shooter

but it's a carbon copy of Doom :P :lol: :| :evil:

LMFAO....I remeber that...
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#73 bigM10231
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No Its all about TEH Gameplay. thats why i keep buying classics

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#74 Toriko42
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Exactly why I prefer my Wii over my PS3.

awssk8er716

I own a Wii and I'd take a PS3 over it anyday

Wii is fun and all but the serious lack of games and serious amount of tripe on the system disturbs me. I only have like 8 games on my Wii while in just a year and 8 months I own 30 on my 360

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#75 grimhope
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I know i'm in the minority here, but i really don't care very much about story in video games. If i want a good story I'll read a book. For me its is the gameplay good? How is the atmosphere of the game? Grafix certainly can help or hurt the feel of the atmosphere of a game, so to me grafix are very important. Even more important than story.

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#76 CaptainHarley
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CUS GRAPHICS EQUALS BETTER GAMES.................................RIGHT

crysis graphics where so good it actually made the story linebetter rigghttttttttt

and killzone2s graphics helped ppl forget that it was just another generic shooter riighttttt

and geow2s graphicsmade the characters FEEL LIKE they had better character development

AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT 8)

AM I RIGHT OR AM I RIGHT

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beast post 10/10 makes all who refute point look like itty bitty babies with poopy diapers

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#77 urdead18
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Killzone 2 wasn't a generic shooter.

Graphics mean more immersion and I love a game that has great graphics. Shows how much effort went into the game.

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#78 egalsim
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="Metalscarz"]

Yes they do.

Should they is another question.

But look at the fans and industry trend

Graphics do matter. Perhaps to much. But they sure as hell matter.

That's why I'm playing on a GTX 280 and PS3 and Xbox 360 instead of a Sega Master System or NES.

Arbiterisl33t69

If they matter so much, then did it save Sonic 06, Haze and Too Human? No

No, because those games had terrible gameplay. You people act as if games can't do both graphics and gameplay, and that games can only have one of both.

Exactly.

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#79 raskullibur
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Graphics only matters in 3D games I have no problem with any 2D games the graphics is still great since the NES but 3D is different, recently I try playing some of my old ps1 games man I gives me headache after playing for for 5 minutes..
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#80 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

its funny how people always play the 'all graphics and no gameplay' card when in fact history shows us the best games usually have the best graphics for the time.

ironic.

Final Fantasy VII + Zelda Toot = PSOne/N64 era.. MGS2 + Halo + RE4 = PS2/Xbox/GC era.. CODMW2 + Mario Galaxy + MGS4 + GeoW = current gen It seems people just create debates without researching..
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#81 GunSmith1_basic
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graphics make games look pretty, but they also expand the capabilities of gaming. The ps3 and 360 are not huge improvements from last gen in this regard, but they definitely improved and advanced gaming in a meaningful way. It is ridiculous to think that we could have stayed with the NES until even today, and similarily, the advance in technology is important even now. Nintendo's decision to stagnate processing power is risky and it puts the entire appeal of the wii on the back of the motion sensing tech. That tech is not very precise even with wiimotion+ btw, which is why the wii is a disappointing console imo
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#82 JuarN18
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A game doesn't need graphics (or a good story) to be a great

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#83 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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For some, it certainly is.
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#84 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Not everybody plays games just for fun.

Visuals provide a level of immersion to accommodate an artistic and emotional narrative where being there and experiencing an alternate interpretation fo real life adds almost as much entertainment value as pressing the buttons. This is why people play games like Gran Turismo as opposed to Mario Kart or Call of Duty to Metroid.

I would agree IF todays graphics were actually life-like but they're not. Even if they do look MORE realistic than arcade types they still don't look photo-real and are still heavily over-stated.

i would have to say cod and gran tourismo just have better gameplay mechanics for replay, i don't even remember trying metriods multiplayer, but, metroid is a very immersive game. Graphics matter if they can draw you into the game world, immerse you, but doesn't necessarly mean realistic. Look at brutal legen, that was an incredible game world. Graphics don't need to be technically good to draw you in, and if you really think people play cod/gt over those other games because of graphics and immersion is a flat out lie, most people don't wan't to play "kiddie" games, but your playing video games so i really don't think it matters at this point.