It's just that simple Live>>>PSN. Live is worth every CENT!!!

Says the tendo-boy. Yeah, I guess Sony should have had everything all going from day one. I know MS did. Oh, wait..... we're talking about updates here. And MS has had one year on Sony to realease updates. And one more year to develop them. Don't act like it should be an even playing field. ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS FREE.

Yeah, like I cry myslef to sleep at night because I can't talk to my best friend Geraldo while I'm playing Warhawk and he's playing Super Stardust HD. Give me a break.

The_Crucible

The lame AM CRY:cry: Live cost $$$ is TOTAL BS. No one seems to have a problem paying $600 bones for a system and $60 a game. But it's oh no AM CRY:cry: when it come to Live.

When in truth not only does Live completely DESTROY PSN. It's in a whole nother league PSN does not even compare.

Live gives a full fledged Movies service TV Show and so on all in HD. Take that to the bank Blu-ray machine.

The Fall update just further plants it's foot right up PSN's ASS saying step of who's your DADDY!!!

Anyone who truly claims they can not or does not want to pay about .13cents a day for an online service that will knock your socks off. Then please give up gaming because your not being true to yourself as a gamer.

Fuzzy_Munch

so live is better because you can get movies? and that makes live players true gamers? Arent you 360 fans the same ones that say ''I use my 360 for games blah blah blah''. and as far as actually playing games online psn is just as good as live. I dont use my online service for buying movies, i use it for games :) oh and its FREE

uhuh keep thinking that

whatever helps you lag at night

[QUOTE="SaintsRowSam"] lol your so ignorant on live we get awsome stuff

being able to talk to our WHOLE party

we can invite friends on gh3

rarely any lag for me

marketplace is the best for buying things

we can buy gamer pictures and themes

have private chats

can send voice messages

psn cant even play online right, my cousin always plays warhawk and he said he almost all the time lags

H8s2spooge

LOL truth, i have a playboy theme i got for free!

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

The lame AM CRY:cry: Live cost $$$ is TOTAL BS. No one seems to have a problem paying $600 bones for a system and $60 a game. But it's oh no AM CRY:cry: when it come to Live.

When in truth not only does Live completely DESTROY PSN. It's in a whole nother league PSN does not even compare.

Live gives a full fledged Movies service TV Show and so on all in HD. Take that to the bank Blu-ray machine.

The Fall update just further plants it's foot right up PSN's ASS saying step of who's your DADDY!!!

Anyone who truly claims they can not or does not want to pay about .13cents a day for an online service that will knock your socks off. Then please give up gaming because your not being true to yourself as a gamer.

Bren128

so live is better because you can get movies? and that makes live players true gamers? Arent you 360 fans the same ones that say ''I use my 360 for games blah blah blah''. and as far as actually playing games online psn is just as good as live. I dont use my online service for buying movies, i use it for games :) oh and its FREE

That is kind've funny, but it doesn't matter anyway, because the MS store is going to be nothing when Sony unveils it's plans for download content. Remember Sony is a media company and has ties to almost every movie and music studio in the world. When the store becomes available the PS3 is going to run right over Xbox in terms of download content available. And to correct Fuzzymunch you don't get true HD on Live, you get 720. 1080p is true HD.

[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"][QUOTE="SaintsRowSam"] lol your so ignorant on live we get awsome stuff

being able to talk to our WHOLE party

we can invite friends on gh3

rarely any lag for me

marketplace is the best for buying things

we can buy gamer pictures and themes

have private chats

can send voice messages

psn cant even play online right, my cousin always plays warhawk and he said he almost all the time lags

Bren128

LOL truth, i have a playboy theme i got for free!

you can upload your own themes for the 360.. and lots of others are free to download.

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Says the tendo-boy. Yeah, I guess Sony should have had everything all going from day one. I know MS did. Oh, wait..... we're talking about updates here. And MS has had one year on Sony to realease updates. And one more year to develop them. Don't act like it should be an even playing field. ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS FREE.

Yeah, like I cry myslef to sleep at night because I can't talk to my best friend Geraldo while I'm playing Warhawk and he's playing Super Stardust HD. Give me a break.

MoldOnHold

Either way sony wins.

"Our competition talked about the fact that they want to offer consumers a choice, but then they make it clearly apparent that if you really want to have the full gaming experience, you need to go out and invest a lot more money than you originally thought you were."

Do people realize you don't have to pay for the whole year, you can start and stop when ever you want, like when I big multiplayer game comes out.

I bought prepaid 3 month card just to play halo 3

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Says the tendo-boy. Yeah, I guess Sony should have had everything all going from day one. I know MS did. Oh, wait..... we're talking about updates here. And MS has had one year on Sony to realease updates. And one more year to develop them. Don't act like it should be an even playing field. ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS FREE.

Yeah, like I cry myslef to sleep at night because I can't talk to my best friend Geraldo while I'm playing Warhawk and he's playing Super Stardust HD. Give me a break.

Adrian_Cloud

Either way sony wins.

"Our competition talked about the fact that they want to offer consumers a choice, but then they make it clearly apparent that if you really want to have the full gaming experience, you need to go out and invest a lot more money than you originally thought you were."

Charging for PSN just wouldn't make sense, they actually need to actually start competing with XBL first.

PS3 is getting VOD, PS3 has had MPEG 4 support forever now so aside from DivX and Xvid PS3 users aren't missing anything (what does this have to do with Live anyway?), and for the amount I pay for my connection I expect my online gaming to be great and lag free for the most part but 360's shoddy p2p system and net coding utterly makes it seem like I'm wasting me money. If I wanted lag I'd go back to 56K and and play AoE2 thank you very much.

XBL does have some things over PSN but from what I understand Home is going to make PSN on par with live. Not to mention when it comes to online gaming, PC owns all.
Tiefster

You do know all but 2 games on the ps3 have player2player

Do people realize you don't have to pay for the whole year, you can start and stop when ever you want, like when I big multiplayer game comes out.

I bought prepaid 3 month card just to play halo 3

Mad_Rhetoric

thats lame.

JAck Tretton is right.
"Our competition talked about the fact that they want to offer consumers a choice, but then they make it clearly apparent that if you really want to have the full gaming experience, you need to go out and invest a lot more money than you originally thought you were."

It makes me laugh how lemmings hype episodic GTAIV content.

1. Its not coming till months after the release.
2. You have to pay additional money.
3. can you get it without live?
4. if you don't have an HDD, then you can't get it.
5. Its actually a pretty sweet deal since i have an HDD and live, and since its coming out months after the release of GTAIV i have plenty of time to complete the game.

PSN is good enough for me. I'd rather do normal offline multiplayer than play with someone I don't know that's a million miles away.

But still... On Live you're only paying to play online. Yes you've got the servers and whatnot that routes people to each other which MS needs to support, but why do they have to charge for it when everybody else does it for free? So, you're not really getting anything new.

On top of that, the $50 a year for X amount of years would likely make the 360 more expensive than the PS3, and price is one of the major criticisms of the PS3.

So, meh. Live may be better, but I'd rather stick with PSN and Home when it comes out.

[QUOTE="robflores370"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]2 OUT OF 3 XBOX USERS DISAGREE. What happens is only 40% of X360 fans pay for live. That means there is basically a 2 out of 3 chance my friends even if they buy an X360 aren't going to be online. Secondly it's fine to pay now when the console is hot stuff and new, but what happens five years from now when you aren't playing it that often, but you still want a match on Halo. Oh yeah you didn't pay for it this year. That's what happens. No Halo for you. With PS3 almost everyone is online and I'm not worried about the future. I'm not worried when my friends buy a PS3 if they are going to be online or not. That's the difference $50 a year makes.
EmperorSupreme

it worth the 50 dollars a year to me, if you or anybody else don't want to pay for it so be it I could care less and thats one less nimrod I run into on live anyway....

You Xbox fans really love to call people names don't you. That's about half the reason I don't have my Xbox anymore right there. The Playstation community is a lot friendlier, helpful and cooler, I got tired of paying to listen to a bunch of swearing, foul mouthed racist kids (kids is meant to describe the mentality not the age). So you aren't offending me by wanting to stay on Live. From your post it looks like you fit right in.

funny how you stayed away from the rest of my post....facts hurt huh?...and as far as the name calling, no one does it on PSN because hardly anyone has a mic, you can keep your boring community, I'd rather not have nimrods like you on live anyway

I really want to CLEAR this up.

I don't get any of this MYTHICAL LAG stuff on Live like all these COWS claim happens nor do any of my 360 buddies.

I most always 99% of the time have super fast downloads and superfast lag free online gaming.

Where this BS comes from IDNO.

Oh by the way PSN download times with filmware and game demos and videos is god alful TURTLE speed slow comapred to Live updates and such. Why don't you guys start telling the truth atleast the ones who have played on Live and not just making these bogus claims. Becuase i have both PSN and Live An Live DESTROYS PSN.

ONLY thing good about live is listening to buddy voice messages while in another game then them.

The rest is PSN > live

With all its lag, Xbox is about as live as the game show network. theheavydrinker

Must be your connection or area, cause my XBL live works just fine after 2 years!

I really want to CLEAR this up.

I don't get any of this MYTHICAL LAG stuff on Live like all these COWS claim happens nor do any of my 360 buddies.

I most always 99% of the time have super fast downloads and superfast lag free online gaming.

Where this BS comes from IDNO.

Oh by the way PSN download times with filmware and game demos and videos is god alful TURTLE speed slow comapred to Live updates and such. Why don't you guys start telling the truth atleast the ones who have played on Live and not just making these bogus claims. Becuase i have both PSN and Live An Live DESTROYS PSN.

Fuzzy_Munch

:|

Updates wise yes 360 does it faster but demos no.

I did a test and had both my 360 and PS3 on and downloaded the Tony Hawk's Proving Ground demo on both. I started the downloads at the same time. The PS3 demo took 15 minutes to download and install while the 360 demo took 25 minutes to download.

I guess all those people with DSL thats border line dial-up is the reason my downloads on XBL take 25 minutes and even the 15 minutes the PS3 is slow considering I have a 10 MPBS download.

What does live give that PSN doesn't that's significant to online play besides ingame invites? Nothing!!! All for $50 bucks a year!! :roll:munu9

I can get that money working 3 or 4 hours....wow...it's absolutely HUGE amount of money...:roll:

What does live give that PSN doesn't that's significant to online play besides ingame invites? Nothing!!! All for $50 bucks a year!! :roll:munu9

So, what does PS3 have over 360 in gamingthats makes it worth $200 more?.... and paying the diffrence not in one year but upfront!:roll: :lol:

I don't quite understand it, 50$ a year is chump change, hell I probably throw 50$ a year away in small change, literally throw it away, who needs those pennies in your pocket anyways?

Needless to say I pay the 50$ a year because It gets me on live and I can play all the games I want to play with my friends, if it were free all the better, but it's not, and i'll continue to pay because I believe everything I get is worth the 50$.

[QUOTE="theheavydrinker"]With all its lag, Xbox is about as live as the game show network. MortalDecay

Sounds to be like you've never played on Live, because I have yet to see any lag, and I've had my 360 for over a year.

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

I really want to CLEAR this up.

I don't get any of this MYTHICAL LAG stuff on Live like all these COWS claim happens nor do any of my 360 buddies.

I most always 99% of the time have super fast downloads and superfast lag free online gaming.

Where this BS comes from IDNO.

Oh by the way PSN download times with filmware and game demos and videos is god alful TURTLE speed slow comapred to Live updates and such. Why don't you guys start telling the truth atleast the ones who have played on Live and not just making these bogus claims. Becuase i have both PSN and Live An Live DESTROYS PSN.

Shadow2k6

:|

Updates wise yes 360 does it faster but demos no.

I did a test and had both my 360 and PS3 on and downloaded the Tony Hawk's Proving Ground demo on both. I started the downloads at the same time. The PS3 demo took 15 minutes to download and install while the 360 demo took 25 minutes to download.

I guess all those people with DSL thats border line dial-up is the reason my downloads on XBL take 25 minutes and even the 15 minutes the PS3 is slow considering I have a 10 MPBS download.

25 min. to dl a demo? That doesn't seem right. I just downloaded the demo for Culdcept Saga and it didn't take any more than 5 min. to download. It's a different game, but still... maybe you had other downloads going. Or that could just mean more people were downloading it at the same time you were.

It lags a lot in halo especially since there are all these kids (13-16) somehow getting host every game. Its awful. There isn't as much lag as many make it out to be but there is lag.

PSN is though a much more stable service and a much better atmosphere. Also its free. Generally, you experience one nut every 10 games or so of resistance or cod4 on the PSN. But its much more frequent to the point every game or every other game on XBL.

$50 for Peer2Peer is bs though. I hate how my $50 is being spent to have little kids host my games. And their high pitched voices *shivers* :D.

In the end PSN is better than XBL for the value and this is standing back at a non fan of any system. XBL might have extra features but it has been out 4 years longer.

Ugh,an XBL $$$ thread.

Just give up man, it looks too crazy from the outside, you'll never convince anyone.

It may be a rip-off but in the scheme of things it's pretty small potatos compared witrh the rest of the rip-offs I put up with and I can swing the 14 cents a day for what I get out of XBL.

The lame AM CRY:cry: Live cost $$$ is TOTAL BS. No one seems to have a problem paying $600 bones for a system and $60 a game. But it's oh no AM CRY:cry: when it come to Live.

When in truth not only does Live completely DESTROY PSN. It's in a whole nother league PSN does not even compare.

Live gives a full fledged Movies service TV Show and so on all in HD. Take that to the bank Blu-ray machine.

The Fall update just further plants it's foot right up PSN's ASS saying step of who's your DADDY!!!

Anyone who truly claims they can not or does not want to pay about .13cents a day for an online service that will knock your socks off. Then please give up gaming because your not being true to yourself as a gamer.

Fuzzy_Munch

So it's ok to pay $50 just to browse Marketplace and only to pay even more money to the d/l movies and videos? Let me break it down.

Gold Membership:
- Online play (no dedicated servers)
- Full marketplace access

Silver Membership:
- Access to friends
- Access to messaging and chat
- Limited marketplace access

Live Marketplace a great service and the friend structure is great, but to try and justify the $50 price is nearly impossible. Why pay anything when it should be free? Yes I pay for it, but only because I can't do without online. It's one of the 360's selling points thjat should be free.

Playstation Network Details:
- Lag free (dedicated servers)
- Access to demos and content
- No movies and tv (coming soon)
- No universal friend's list (coming soon)
- No in game provate chat (coming soon)
- Music service also in the works :)
- HOME!

Right now the 360 does have the upper hand, but to charge for it is just retarded. It's only been a year and Sony has done a huge amount of work with PSN. Once their vision is realized it will be better than XBL.

I don't quite understand it, 50$ a year is chump change, hell I probably throw 50$ a year away in small change, literally throw it away, who needs those pennies in your pocket anyways?

Needless to say I pay the 50$ a year because It gets me on live and I can play all the games I want to play with my friends, if it were free all the better, but it's not, and i'll continue to pay because I believe everything I get is worth the 50$.

Vis-a-Vis

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

The lame AM CRY:cry: Live cost $$$ is TOTAL BS. No one seems to have a problem paying $600 bones for a system and $60 a game. But it's oh no AM CRY:cry: when it come to Live.

When in truth not only does Live completely DESTROY PSN. It's in a whole nother league PSN does not even compare.

Live gives a full fledged Movies service TV Show and so on all in HD. Take that to the bank Blu-ray machine.

The Fall update just further plants it's foot right up PSN's ASS saying step of who's your DADDY!!!

Anyone who truly claims they can not or does not want to pay about .13cents a day for an online service that will knock your socks off. Then please give up gaming because your not being true to yourself as a gamer.

Episode_Eve

So it's ok to pay $50 just to browse Marketplace and only to pay even more money to the d/l movies and videos? Let me break it down.

Gold Membership:
- Online play (no dedicated servers)
- Full marketplace access

Silver Membership:
- Access to friends
- Access to messaging and chat
- Limited marketplace access

Live Marketplace a great service and the friend structure is great, but to try and justify the $50 price is nearly impossible. Why pay anything when it should be free? Yes I pay for it, but only because I can't do without online. It's one of the 360's selling points thjat should be free.

Playstation Network Details:
- Lag free (dedicated servers)
- Access to demos and content
- No movies and tv (coming soon)
- No universal friend's list (coming soon)
- No in game provate chat (coming soon)
- Music service also in the works :)
- HOME!

Right now the 360 does have the upper hand, but to charge for it is just retarded. It's only been a year and Sony has done a huge amount of work with PSN. Once their vision is realized it will be better than XBL.

Great post. Live is great, but should be free. Yes, there are currenlty more features than PSN, but there's no way anyone can convince me it's worth $50. Steam is also a great service with all of XBL's features (except for movies) and it's free.

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

The lame AM CRY:cry: Live cost $$$ is TOTAL BS. No one seems to have a problem paying $600 bones for a system and $60 a game. But it's oh no AM CRY:cry: when it come to Live.

When in truth not only does Live completely DESTROY PSN. It's in a whole nother league PSN does not even compare.

Live gives a full fledged Movies service TV Show and so on all in HD. Take that to the bank Blu-ray machine.

The Fall update just further plants it's foot right up PSN's ASS saying step of who's your DADDY!!!

Anyone who truly claims they can not or does not want to pay about .13cents a day for an online service that will knock your socks off. Then please give up gaming because your not being true to yourself as a gamer.

Episode_Eve

So it's ok to pay $50 just to browse Marketplace and only to pay even more money to the d/l movies and videos? Let me break it down.

Gold Membership:
- Online play (no dedicated servers)
- Full marketplace access

Silver Membership:
- Access to friends
- Access to messaging and chat
- Limited marketplace access

Live Marketplace a great service and the friend structure is great, but to try and justify the $50 price is nearly impossible. Why pay anything when it should be free? Yes I pay for it, but only because I can't do without online. It's one of the 360's selling points thjat should be free.

Playstation Network Details:
- Lag free (dedicated servers)
- Access to demos and content
- No movies and tv (coming soon)
- No universal friend's list (coming soon)
- No in game provate chat (coming soon)
- Music service also in the works :)
- HOME!

Right now the 360 does have the upper hand, but to charge for it is just retarded. It's only been a year and Sony has done a huge amount of work with PSN. Once their vision is realized it will be better than XBL.

LMAO:lol: PSN will NEVER EVER be better then Live PSN will only get better but not better then Live.

You cleary need to realize that Sony can not ever do better then the Software King MS MS specializes in this stuff. Why do you think Sony has a more reliable hardware unit. Becuase Sony is HARDWARE specialist. And MS has the best online becuase MS is SOFTWARE specialst.

I have both Live and PSN...and Live is just way better in every single way....alberth123123