It's official, Forza Horizon 5 is coming to PS5! Update: Age of Empires 2, Age of Mythology also coming

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#101 BenjaminBanklin
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@SolidGame_basic said:

🤔I thought Lems don’t care about if a company needs to make money

Right? If anything, MS spending too much put them in this position in the first place. Never has spending 80 billion on the Xbox brand ever been a good idea.

Hell, it's insane to spend that much money on a game platform period

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#102 AcidTango
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It's great that more people get to play Forza. But at the same time wouldn't this make the Xbox consoles more pointless to buy? If Microsoft starts releasing their future games on Playstation and the rumors that they might even do that for the Switch 2, it will most likely hurt their console sales even more. At this point Microsoft should just be like Sega and go straight to third party instead.

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#103 Boiled-Hotdug
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@AcidTango: Well no shit Acid 😂😂😂 people have been saying that for the past year already…only people investing in Xbox are those that enjoy the whole ecosystem of Xbox…the console experience…already having an established digital library, friends, & game pass

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#104  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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great game, and I would hope a lot of ps players get this game too and bring a larger audience. This is one of those games that deserve a huge audience, as well as MSFS. Both are masterpieces in their respective genres.

I'm thrilled that MS is finally making more profit by pushing multiplatform for a bunch of games. Forza is one of those that definitely would do great as multiplatform, and same with gears of war in my opinion. Halo also at this point, because it just needs a large an audience as possible.

The value proposition of xbox is gamepass, and that is what differentiates it, plus how well its integrated with PC and cloud. Other consoles don't have anything that is as seamless or affordable as a gaming machine.

Lets face it...theres no point in making games 1st party if people don't buy into your console. At least this way, you can target other consoles fans and bring them into the xbox family directly.

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#105 TheEroica  Moderator
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OMG in one single announcement Sonys best racer is a Microsoft game .... So many feelings rushing in... It's weird.

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#106 TheEroica  Moderator
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

🤔I thought Lems don’t care about if a company needs to make money

Right? If anything, MS spending too much put them in this position in the first place. Never has spending 80 billion on the Xbox brand ever been a good idea.

Hell, it's insane to spend that much money on a game platform period

Well, one could say that the overspending as a trend has accelerated the end of exclusive gaming. These numbers publishers are spending and losing! My God how can they not go full multiplat? With the exception of Nintendo the other two have no choice any longer and well, they kinda did it to themselves.... Especially with Nintendo as an example of fiscal responsibility sitting right in front of them cleaning up. It's embarrassing... But gamers win.

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#107 Pedro
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@TheEroica said:

Well, one could say that the overspending as a trend has accelerated the end of exclusive gaming. These numbers publishers are spending and losing! My God how can they not go full multiplat? With the exception of Nintendo the other two have no choice any longer and well, they kinda did it to themselves.... Especially with Nintendo as an example of fiscal responsibility sitting right in front of them cleaning up. It's embarrassing... But gamers win.

Some folks like to pretend that Sony hasn't shifted gears with exclusives launching on PC faster than they release new games. 😂 Soon, they will realize that console gaming ship is sailing away.

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#108 SolidGame_basic
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Except PS5 is outpacing PS4 and that is with a higher price and having supply issues at launch 😎

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#109 Pedro
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^ got em.🤭

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#110  Edited By AcidTango
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@boiled-hotdug said:

@AcidTango: Well no shit Acid 😂😂😂 people have been saying that for the past year already…only people investing in Xbox are those that enjoy the whole ecosystem of Xbox…the console experience…already having an established digital library, friends, & game pass

Ok hotdug🙂

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#111 Last_Lap
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@davillain: That's sensible IF you make games only, it's smart to put them on every platform posdible.

But when you have a platform of your own where you get 100% of the money (from digital) and 100% of the money when your store sells dlc and the like, then it's more beneficial to have as many people on your platform as possible, then to hedge your bets with a split strategy.

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#112 st_monica
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Well, I welcome MS officially joining PlayStation as a third party partner. If increasing ROI for their investors is their top priority, along with thousands of layoffs and studio closures, then going third party is an understandable decision in the short term, though not necessarily a good one in the long term.

In any case, PS is now the only platform on the market where you can play both the best racing sim (GT7) and the best open-world racer (FH5). I can't wait for Team Asobi to take Mario Kart and make the best kart racer, just like they took 3D Mario and made Astro Bot, haha.

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#113 sakaiXx
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That is great news. More games on PS is always great. Sony just need to improve the PS+ experience and mass migration will happen.

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#114  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@uitravioience: 18 + years of education and barely being able to write one word... k

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#115 Saint-George
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@ermacness said:
@saint-george said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@saint-george said:

More cow $$$ for xbox studio's,the biggest publisher and only reason PS owners turn their consoles on ...it'll top sales and pre orders,cows aiding xbox in winning the sales and profit war.

Nobody cares about a damn Xbox sales and profit war. You MFs lost, chump. 🤣

Translated.

Look..nobody cares
Look..nobody cares

Obviously you do.

🤦

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#116 SolidGame_basic
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@st_monica said:

Well, I welcome MS officially joining PlayStation as a third party partner. If increasing ROI for their investors is their top priority, along with thousands of layoffs and studio closures, then going third party is an understandable decision in the short term, though not necessarily a good one in the long term.

In any case, PS is now the only platform on the market where you can play both the best racing sim (GT7) and the best open-world racer (FH5). I can't wait for Team Asobi to take Mario Kart and make the best kart racer, just like they took 3D Mario and made Astro Bot, haha.

I can imagine that if Horizon sells well on PS5, we will be seeing Xbox games on PS5 Day 1 very soon.

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#117 robert_sparkes
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Interesting to see whether or not they release a pro version that would be insane.

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#118 Saint-George
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I've never seen such clamour from cows for an old xbox game..

..Well not since sea of thieves

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#119 SolidGame_basic
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@saint-george: this is you right now

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#120  Edited By Antwan3K
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@last_lap said:

@Antwan3K: Where does the money go, into MS bank account or Xbox's?

and are you under the impression that PlayStation doesn't make any money?.. everything goes into Sony's "bank account"?..

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#121 Saint-George
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@saint-george: this is you right now

Got em!

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#122 SolidGame_basic
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Lems have lost their minds now 🤣

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#123 SecretPolice
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That Uncle Phil is one sharp operator. lol :P

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#124 Archangel3371
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Wowza! Look at all this port begging coming from Cows these days. Hard to believe that these same folks mocked others for it not that long ago. Crazy times indeed. 🤣😂

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#125 SolidGame_basic
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Dat copium

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#126  Edited By Saint-George
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@Archangel3371 said:

Wowza! Look at all this port begging coming from Cows these days. Hard to believe that these same folks mocked others for it not that long ago. Crazy times indeed. 🤣😂

Imagine your biggest competitors games being the best selling and most popular on the plastic you have real unhealthy feelings for.....now imagine your biggest competitor being the biggest publisher on the same plastic.....then imagine your competitor selling their old games for full price and those games become No1 pre orders....

Well imagine no more....that shits a reality

And they think they are winning

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#127 Archangel3371
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@saint-george: Tough days for the bovine brigade. 😅

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#128 SolidGame_basic
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Imagine coming to System Wars, a forum about video game systems, and bragging about Publishing 🤣

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#129 DaVillain  Moderator
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In other Xbox news:

Fable needs to be multiplat (excluding PC) anyway due to high development cost these days.

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#130  Edited By Antwan3K
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Imagine coming to System Wars, a forum about video game systems, and bragging about Publishing 🤣

Imagine coming to System Wars, in 2025, and pretending that gaming is still centered around "exclusives".. 🤣

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#131 Archangel3371
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Launching multi platform games simultaneously day one would naturally be the best way. That way everyone can enjoy the games at the same time and it maximizes sales potential.

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#132 Saint-George
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@davillain said:

In other Xbox news:

Fable needs to be multiplat (excluding PC) anyway due to high development cost these days.

Sony's biggest publishers gonna rake in a shit tonne of cow cash sitting in the pockets of ps gamers starved of any first party offerings...i mean its one thing boasting about console sales as king,its another using your biggest competitor as a cash cow and making its console part of the xbox family like pc

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#133  Edited By WitIsWisdom
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Are people going to continue acting surprised every couple/few weeks an Xbox game or two are announced for the PS5 (or the upcoming Switch 2)? Phil quite literally said it's not in their best interest to keep games off other platforms moving forward and they don't intend to do so.

Like I said before, I'm not sure I really like this, but... if both have their own service, but I can only play all the games on one console then I'm moving forward with just PS, and if they offer gamepass on the PS eventually I'll sub to PS Extra and Gamepass.. hopefully they can bundle them into a package at some point.

That said I will buy another Xbox if they are the first to make a console/pc hybrid with the power and features of a next gen piece of hardware. If not however.. well unfortunately it's time for me to stop purchasing Xbox hardware and just support their software... which is what they want either way, so whatever.

Either way Xbox (MS) staggering their game releases is brilliant to keep the hype going. If they did it all at once there wouldn't be as much self advertising and hype. A LOT of people will buy first edition physical, or day 1 digital, games on Playstation like Forza, Halo, or Gears just to say they were there... and at the end of the day MS makes more money for their Xbox division which in turn can continue buying devs and publishers and cornering the software market with the extra sales, which in turn strengthens gamepass so they can offer even more and continue growing their service until it's almost essential.

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#134 ermacness
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@saint-george said:
@ermacness said:
@saint-george said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@saint-george said:

More cow $$$ for xbox studio's,the biggest publisher and only reason PS owners turn their consoles on ...it'll top sales and pre orders,cows aiding xbox in winning the sales and profit war.

Nobody cares about a damn Xbox sales and profit war. You MFs lost, chump. 🤣

Translated.

Look..nobody cares
Look..nobody cares

Obviously you do.

🤦

I’d rather keep laughing.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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#135 Star67
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@Antwan3K: Sounds like you're just spewing loser propaganda to me

Xbox LOST!

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#136 Archangel3371
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They’re coming out of the woodwork! Microsoft brings them all to the yard. 🤣😂

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#137 ermacness
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@Star67 said:

@Antwan3K: Sounds like you're just spewing loser propaganda to me

Xbox LOST!

And that‘s hurting lems these days. There’s no greater ownage than for your 1st party exclusives to jump ship to the other competing console.

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#138 Star67
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@ermacness said:
@Star67 said:

@Antwan3K: Sounds like you're just spewing loser propaganda to me

Xbox LOST!

And that‘s hurting lems these days. There’s no greater ownage than for your 1st party exclusives to jump ship to the other competing console.

Dude right? It's so funny watching them spin this. Like are they really this delusional? At least go out with some class.

Do you think Sega Fanboys say "Well haha look at all the nintendo fanboys fawning over SEGA IPs!" Like get out of here!!!!

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#139 AgentA-Mi6
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The death of Xbox identity as an individual platform is in the horizon. Microsoft wants to become a Software publisher first and foremost. What they've always been.

The hardware beat downs (US, Eur, Japan etc) from last chrismas were the final straw.

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@Star67 said:

@Antwan3K: Sounds like you're just spewing loser propaganda to me

Xbox LOST!

it's a good thing i don't care what you think.. 🤷‍♂️

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#141 UItravioIence
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Anyone want to buy a series X? I'll give you a great deal!

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#142  Edited By Antwan3K
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@Archangel3371 said:

They’re coming out of the woodwork! Microsoft brings them all to the yard. 🤣😂

i know, right?.. so good to see so many cows excited to buy Xbox software.. 🤣

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#143 Archangel3371
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@Antwan3K: Never thought I’d see the day. Microsoft, the great unifier.

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#144 Star67
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@Antwan3K: And so it begins! No spin left or arguments to counter the LOSING!!!

"I don't care what you think" mmmmmm defeat is so delicious!!!!

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#145  Edited By Archangel3371
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@Antwan3K said:
@Star67 said:

@Antwan3K: Sounds like you're just spewing loser propaganda to me

Xbox LOST!

it's a good thing i don't care what you think.. 🤷‍♂️

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#146 Saint-George
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@Star67 said:

@Antwan3K: And so it begins! No spin left or arguments to counter the LOSING!!!

"I don't care what you think" mmmmmm defeat is so delicious!!!!

The Sony sap console war was always about Sales and profits.....Ms see's your sales and profits and raises you PS biggest publisher and part of the Xbox family

Enjoy 👍

X...box family
X...box family

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#147 getyeryayasout
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When I bought my PS5 I had no idea that I was also buying an Xbox, but I sure am glad I did. Thank you, MS.

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#148 Last_Lap
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@Antwan3K: The money goes into the parent companies bank account, why are you struggling with this?

Playstation is not a separate entity, nor is Xbox. They don't have their own bank accounts, the struggle is real for you.

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#149 GhostOfGolden
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@Star67 said:

@Antwan3K: And so it begins! No spin left or arguments to counter the LOSING!!!

"I don't care what you think" mmmmmm defeat is so delicious!!!!

It's actually quite sad.

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#150 SolidGame_basic
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@Star67 said:
@ermacness said:
@Star67 said:

@Antwan3K: Sounds like you're just spewing loser propaganda to me

Xbox LOST!

And that‘s hurting lems these days. There’s no greater ownage than for your 1st party exclusives to jump ship to the other competing console.

Dude right? It's so funny watching them spin this. Like are they really this delusional? At least go out with some class.

Do you think Sega Fanboys say "Well haha look at all the nintendo fanboys fawning over SEGA IPs!" Like get out of here!!!!

Agreed, it's really not that complicated.
This is System Wars, not Publisher Wars.
MS putting Xbox games on other systems doesn't make the Xbox better, but it sure does make the PS5 and Switch 2 better.