It's Official: Super Smash Brawl has almost every feature that Halo 3 has

Let me share my unpopular opinion with the Sheep now before disapointment sets in after the game is released.

I bought a Wii and launch, I picked up all the "hardcore" Nintendo titles they day they came out and there is a reality that I think every Sheep needs to understand, Games that are reviewed for the Wii based on seventh generation standards, which means that graphically its held up to 360 and PS3 games and as Reggie admited when it comes that that aspect Wii does not have the hardware to compete.

So Wii's advantage is its functionality and unique control system, that is its only advantage.

Sitting here and comparing SSB to Halo 3 is simply going to lead to more "GS is teh Bias" threads after the review comes out.

SSB needs to take full advantage of the Wii-Mote and the functionality that this control system offers in order to score an AAA, otherwise its simply another Zelda or Metroid that are nice looking games that are fun but graphically and gameplay wise do not stack up to the other consoles around this gen.

cosmostein77

Dude I donk you are looking at this correctly. First of all game reviewers are supposed to rate games based on what the hardware is cabable of, whther GS does this or not means nothing their credibility is shattered. SSBB has amazing framerates and great character models but yes it is really just tapping into what the Wii's graphical capabilities can do. the game looks great irregardless and graphics dont have much to do with how good it is except framerates.

Just because Wii has a steadily evolving control scheme known as motion sensing does not mean they cant use the old school gamepad. what is wrong with that? There are modes in SSBB that use motion sensing, but that doesnt mean we cant use the old style. Besides that even this is somewhat intuitive because you can use so many different pads. There is the horizontal Wiimote, Nunchuk/Wiimote, Classic Controller, GameCube controller and all of them are completely customizeable.

SSBB is a very underused series that works great. Its controls are amazing because you can make your own combos in mid air, its basically what all other fighters try to simulate and thats fluid spontaneous fighting. The game looks great and adds a whole bunch of new gameplay features. After saying that I dont see how you could be right.

Super Smash bros has:

Online Co-op

Online multiplayer

Saved films (for both brawls and the target minigame)

A lenghthy single player campaign with both a plot and bosses

Achievement-like system of trophies and stickers

Along with minigames and third party cameos, all it needs now is a stage creator like Halo's Forge (maybe some chainsaws too) and it will be guaranteed AAA.

deathtomonkey

I never knew SSBB has:

Forge

Doesn't have it. Mentioned this in first post.

File Share

Wii updates?

In-dept stats online

Stats only available for games against friends.

In-dept gametype editor

Not announced. Likely though.

Big, vehicle driven mapsi

Vehicles and large maps are available.

Vehicles: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/wario.html

Large maps: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage14.html

Not to the same scale of FPS' though.

Screenshots

Has it: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various07.html

True skill matchmaking

DS online games did. Wii games might have it as well.

Custom Games

Has it: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various04.html

Voice chat

Has text chatting. Not exactly the same thing, but better than nothing: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi01.html

Do I need to go on?

II-FBIsniper-II

[QUOTE="deathtomonkey"]

Super Smash bros has:

Online Co-op

Online multiplayer

Saved films (for both brawls and the target minigame)

A lenghthy single player campaign with both a plot and bosses

Achievement-like system of trophies and stickers

Along with minigames and third party cameos, all it needs now is a stage creator like Halo's Forge (maybe some chainsaws too) and it will be guaranteed AAA.

TheWiikestLink

How hard do you laugh when your yearly LIVE fee of $50 is due?

For something that is free, Smash online thus far (4 months from launch) is pretty impressive.

You're comparing a low budget fighting game to a first person shooter?

bragac200

Low budget?

This is one fo Nintendos biggest titles, they are putting a lot of money into this. I wonder what you are going to say in defence of your statement after so many people quoted you and pretty much laughed it off.

[QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"][QUOTE="deathtomonkey"]

Super Smash bros has:

Online Co-op

Online multiplayer

Saved films (for both brawls and the target minigame)

A lenghthy single player campaign with both a plot and bosses

Achievement-like system of trophies and stickers

Along with minigames and third party cameos, all it needs now is a stage creator like Halo's Forge (maybe some chainsaws too) and it will be guaranteed AAA.

-Despacio-

How hard do you laugh when your yearly LIVE fee of $50 is due?

For something that is free, Smash online thus far (4 months from launch) is pretty impressive.

You're comparing a low budget fighting game to a first person shooter?

bragac200

Yes he is comparing a generic and low budget game to an awesome fighting game.

Oh snap!

[QUOTE="bragac200"]

You're comparing a low budget fighting game to a first person shooter?

PelekotansDream

Low budget?

This is one fo Nintendos biggest titles, they are putting a lot of money into this. I wonder what you are going to say in defence of your statement after so many people quoted you and pretty much laughed it off.

bragac200 will never be able to live that statement down :lol:

^^^ Haters get owned.

[QUOTE="bragac200"]

You're comparing a low budget fighting game to a first person shooter?

PelekotansDream

Low budget?

This is one fo Nintendos biggest titles, they are putting a lot of money into this. I wonder what you are going to say in defence of your statement after so many people quoted you and pretty much laughed it off.

bragac200 will never be able to live that statement down :lol:

[QUOTE="MrShenmue"]No voice chat.
edeasknight

thank god

LMAO Can you imagine some of the players?

They'd all be like 6 years old "YAY PIKACU" haha

Let me share my unpopular opinion with the Sheep now before disapointment sets in after the game is released.

I bought a Wii and launch, I picked up all the "hardcore" Nintendo titles they day they came out and there is a reality that I think every Sheep needs to understand, Games that are reviewed for the Wii based on seventh generation standards, which means that graphically its held up to 360 and PS3 games and as Reggie admited when it comes that that aspect Wii does not have the hardware to compete.

So Wii's advantage is its functionality and unique control system, that is its only advantage.

Sitting here and comparing SSB to Halo 3 is simply going to lead to more "GS is teh Bias" threads after the review comes out.

SSB needs to take full advantage of the Wii-Mote and the functionality that this control system offers in order to score an AAA, otherwise its simply another Zelda or Metroid that are nice looking games that are fun but graphically and gameplay wise do not stack up to the other consoles around this gen.

cosmostein77

Dude, what?

[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]What would they use online co-op for? OMG TEAM BATTLE! Seriously, I don't get it.Ilived

Do more research. Then come back.

Why would I do research for a game I don't care about?

Why would you post in a thread for a game you don't care about? Sounds like a waste of time if you ask me.

I think i will stick to Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, i dont like kiddy cartoonish games (the only thing Nintendo can make), i dont consider the Wii to be a console, its not even aimed at gamers, the "Hardcore gamers" who purchased it were fooled by Nintendo. I think GS knows and accepts that the Wii is trash which is why its best games flop here on SW.Ultra-Fatality

You are a guy with the specs of his PC in his sig. I assume you are a hermit. I thought hermits were intelligent, tolerant beings. You, good sir, depict the opposite, however. Thanks for enlightening me.

[QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"][QUOTE="deathtomonkey"]

Super Smash bros has:

Online Co-op

Online multiplayer

Saved films (for both brawls and the target minigame)

A lenghthy single player campaign with both a plot and bosses

Achievement-like system of trophies and stickers

Along with minigames and third party cameos, all it needs now is a stage creator like Halo's Forge (maybe some chainsaws too) and it will be guaranteed AAA.

-Despacio-

How hard do you laugh when your yearly LIVE fee of $50 is due?

For something that is free, Smash online thus far (4 months from launch) is pretty impressive.

i laugh pretty hard because im getting a quality sevice for only 50 bucks

[QUOTE="-Despacio-"][QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"][QUOTE="deathtomonkey"]

Super Smash bros has:

Online Co-op

Online multiplayer

Saved films (for both brawls and the target minigame)

A lenghthy single player campaign with both a plot and bosses

Achievement-like system of trophies and stickers

Along with minigames and third party cameos, all it needs now is a stage creator like Halo's Forge (maybe some chainsaws too) and it will be guaranteed AAA.

oSuperPlat

How hard do you laugh when your yearly LIVE fee of $50 is due?

For something that is free, Smash online thus far (4 months from launch) is pretty impressive.

i laugh pretty hard because im getting a quality sevice for only 50 bucks

I laugh the hardest because you're paying for P2P gaming. Even Team Xbox laughs at you! :lol:

[QUOTE="oSuperPlat"][QUOTE="-Despacio-"][QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"][QUOTE="deathtomonkey"]

Super Smash bros has:

Online Co-op

Online multiplayer

Saved films (for both brawls and the target minigame)

A lenghthy single player campaign with both a plot and bosses

Achievement-like system of trophies and stickers

Along with minigames and third party cameos, all it needs now is a stage creator like Halo's Forge (maybe some chainsaws too) and it will be guaranteed AAA.

Hexagon_777

How hard do you laugh when your yearly LIVE fee of $50 is due?

For something that is free, Smash online thus far (4 months from launch) is pretty impressive.

i laugh pretty hard because im getting a quality sevice for only 50 bucks

I laugh the hardest because you're paying for P2P gaming. Even Team Xbox laughs at you! :lol:

if im laughing why would i care that your laughing? as long as im satisfied me > you/tx

Stage builder just brought is game to a whole other level. Game of the year and beyond. Halo doesn't have this. This game is making just say forget the rest I want to play the best.

[QUOTE="dieworm"]

[QUOTE="animateria"]I doubt that the plot is going to be engaging... The other points maybe true though.Apathetic-Irony

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26643.html

If the cinemas are that good, it's sure thing to have a pretty good plot.

Nuff said.

Since when do fighters have a decent plot? Just how do you expect a game that has over a dozen playable characters to pull off an engaging and engrossing plot? Expect a lackluster journey with an enjoyable cinimatic as reward for beating the game with X character.

I pity the fool who doesn't see the level of depth in the "help donkey kong get his bananas back" plot.

Take THAT Citizen Kane!

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

Bread_or_Decide

A silly little fighting game does not score a 8.9

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

web966

A silly little fighting game does not score a 8.9

It just did. And the first one scored a 7.5.

Not a AAA franchise.

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

Bread_or_Decide

I sure would like to see voicechat. :(

That's the only thing killing me about online play. I'd like to talk to my friends as I play with them.

As far as this thread goes, though: yes, apples and oranges.

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

Bread_or_Decide

If all you have on the game is to call it a silly little fighting game that isn't in the status of two other fighting games that haven't seen decent sequels for almost a decade then you have no argument.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

iunderstand

If all you have on the game is to call it a silly little fighting game that isn't in the status of two other fighting games that haven't seen decent sequels for almost a decade then you have no argument.

Here comes the rabid mouth foaming fanbase to chew me to bits for criticizing their one and only fighting game.

:roll:

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

If all you have on the game is to call it a silly little fighting game that isn't in the status of two other fighting games that haven't seen decent sequels for almost a decade then you have no argument.

Bread_or_Decide

Here comes the rabid mouth foaming fanbase to chew me to bits for criticizing their one and only fighting game.

:roll:

:lol: Again, he has nothing.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Meh. At least Xplay doesn't take itself as seriously as system wars does. Their scores are decent and never too far from the general concensus. THey love the Wii so you should really love that. And its just a show, theirs far worse on TV, and almost little to nothing on video games besides it.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="iunderstand"]

If all you have on the game is to call it a silly little fighting game that isn't in the status of two other fighting games that haven't seen decent sequels for almost a decade then you have no argument.

iunderstand

Here comes the rabid mouth foaming fanbase to chew me to bits for criticizing their one and only fighting game.

:roll:

:lol: Again, he has nothing.

I have one thing. My opinion that Smash Bros. has the worst fanbase of any fighter. They somehow think anyone takes Smash Bros. seriously as a fighting game.

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

:lol: Again, he has nothing.

Bread_or_Decide

I have one thing. My opinion that Smash Bros. has the worst fanbase of any fighter. They somehow think anyone takes Smash Bros. seriously as a fighting game.

Because video games are serious business.

The best part is when anyone calls it a button masher some sheep puts a link to a vid and all I see are a bunch of tiny cartoons trying to kick each other off screen. lol.

Yeah. Thats just amazing stuff. Forget the actual technical briliance of Virtua Fighter. Lets just watch people hitting each other off screen over n over again. Oustanding.

But then again its all sheep have so they must cling to it like its the last buttered roll in the bakery.

The best part is when anyone calls it a button masher some sheep puts a link to a vid and all I see are a bunch of tiny cartoons trying to kick each other off screen. lol.

Yeah. Thats just amazing stuff. Forget the actual technical briliance of Virtua Fighter. Lets just watch people hitting each other off screen over n over again. Oustanding.

But then again its all sheep have so they must cling to it like its the last buttered roll in the bakery.

Bread_or_Decide

It's even better when lemmings prance on about their Godlo 3 and they are oblivious to the fact that the controls on any PC FPS is superior. Because they obviously care.

The best part is when anyone calls it a button masher some sheep puts a link to a vid and all I see are a bunch of tiny cartoons trying to kick each other off screen. lol.

Yeah. Thats just amazing stuff. Forget the actual technical briliance of Virtua Fighter. Lets just watch people hitting each other off screen over n over again. Oustanding.

But then again its all sheep have so they must cling to it like its the last buttered roll in the bakery.

Bread_or_Decide

Your totaly right there SSB has no technikes at all!. It's totaly random... That's why it's one of the biggest games for the PGL... (Joke I know XD)

Woot. Sheep got nothing your right...:roll:

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

The best part is when anyone calls it a button masher some sheep puts a link to a vid and all I see are a bunch of tiny cartoons trying to kick each other off screen. lol.

Yeah. Thats just amazing stuff. Forget the actual technical briliance of Virtua Fighter. Lets just watch people hitting each other off screen over n over again. Oustanding.

But then again its all sheep have so they must cling to it like its the last buttered roll in the bakery.

GundamGuy0

Your totaly right there SSB has no technikes at all!. It's totaly random... That's why it's one of the biggest games for the PGL... (Joke I know XD)

Woot. Sheep got nothing your right...:roll:

You forgot to add the link to a vid so I can get a good laugh.

Oh and mention all those techniques that result in.."character slashes sword"..and "mario kicks in air". Those are the best.

And don't forge tthe one where you almost get kicked off but you jump back up.

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]:lol: Again, he has nothing.

Bread_or_Decide

I have one thing. My opinion that Smash Bros. has the worst fanbase of any fighter. They somehow think anyone takes Smash Bros. seriously as a fighting game.

But he's right: You have nothing. You're just ranting about the fanbase andflaming to avoid the argument.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

The best part is when anyone calls it a button masher some sheep puts a link to a vid and all I see are a bunch of tiny cartoons trying to kick each other off screen. lol.

Yeah. Thats just amazing stuff. Forget the actual technical briliance of Virtua Fighter. Lets just watch people hitting each other off screen over n over again. Oustanding.

But then again its all sheep have so they must cling to it like its the last buttered roll in the bakery.

Bread_or_Decide

Your totaly right there SSB has no technikes at all!. It's totaly random... That's why it's one of the biggest games for the PGL... (Joke I know XD)

Woot. Sheep got nothing your right...:roll:

You forgot to add the link to a vid so I can get a good laugh.

Oh and mention all those techniques that result in.."character slashes sword"..and "mario kicks in air". Those are the best.

And don't forge tthe one where you almost get kicked off but you jump back up.

Methinks he wants fighters to be realistic. *cough*

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

The best part is when anyone calls it a button masher some sheep puts a link to a vid and all I see are a bunch of tiny cartoons trying to kick each other off screen. lol.

Yeah. Thats just amazing stuff. Forget the actual technical briliance of Virtua Fighter. Lets just watch people hitting each other off screen over n over again. Oustanding.

But then again its all sheep have so they must cling to it like its the last buttered roll in the bakery.

iunderstand

It's even better when lemmings prance on about their Godlo 3 and they are oblivious to the fact that the controls on any PC FPS is superior. Because they obviously care.

Yeah thats great too. At least they have the scores to back it up tho.

I never knew SSBB has:

Forge:They just announced custom maps

File Share:They just announced that you can download other custom maps and send pictures to friends

In-dept stats online: Not that we know of no. Which is a bummer.

In-dept gametype editor: So your saying that Halo 3s forge is up there with the elite map editors?

Big, vehicle driven maps: Would you want that in a Super Smash Bros game?

Screenshots: Yeah...it does...

True skill matchmaking: True skill matchmaking...

Custom Games: Look up for answers

Voice chat: The only thing I'm really not ok with. This should have been in the game absolutely.

Do I need to go on?

II-FBIsniper-II

Hey, pal. This is exactly why I'am on System Wars. If you are going to bash something get your facts straight.

Heck with a buncha friends over yeah Smash Bros. is fun. The way a Michael Bay movie is fun. The way spongebob is amusing to watch.

But trying to pass it off as some technically brilliant fighter. Thats going over board.

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

It's even better when lemmings prance on about their Godlo 3 and they are oblivious to the fact that the controls on any PC FPS is superior. Because they obviously care.

Bread_or_Decide

Yeah thats great too. At least they have the scores to back it up tho.

It doesn't matter what the score is, you are talking about competing on a purely technical level. On a technical level Halo 3 isn't even in the same league as PC shooters, but should anyone care if the game is fun?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="iunderstand"]:lol: Again, he has nothing.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

I have one thing. My opinion that Smash Bros. has the worst fanbase of any fighter. They somehow think anyone takes Smash Bros. seriously as a fighting game.

But he's right: You have nothing. You're just ranting about the fanbase andflaming to avoid the argument.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="iunderstand"]

It's even better when lemmings prance on about their Godlo 3 and they are oblivious to the fact that the controls on any PC FPS is superior. Because they obviously care.

iunderstand

Yeah thats great too. At least they have the scores to back it up tho.

It doesn't matter what the score is, you are talking about competing on a purely technical level. On a technical level Halo 3 isn't even in the same league as PC shooters, but should anyone care if the game is fun?

Fun is fun. Thats all that matters.

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="iunderstand"]:lol: Again, he has nothing.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I have one thing. My opinion that Smash Bros. has the worst fanbase of any fighter. They somehow think anyone takes Smash Bros. seriously as a fighting game.

But he's right: You have nothing. You're just ranting about the fanbase andflaming to avoid the argument.

Theirs that rabid fanbase I was talking about.

For a franchise that has never gained AAA status sheep sure has blown SSB way way out of proportion. Recently on X-Play Adam and Morgan were scratching their heads on how this nifty lil time waster ever gained such high critical status amongst its fanbase.

Its just a silly little fighting game. The way sheep talk about it you'd swear it was Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat status. Which its not.

Bread_or_Decide