Its time that gears of war got what it deserves

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And that would be a big fat F-. Now before you start typing about how "wrong" I' am and that I am a moron. Read what I'm saying.

Ok, it would be pointless to talk about single player because we all know that it was good and solid. Some say a little short, but that does not matter. My problem with the game, if you want to call it that, is the online part of it.

There's nothing like playing gears of war. Really there is not, unless you are thinking back when you played counter strike or anything for the matter on 56k, then you would be right on the money. 

The big problem with the game is that your bullets take about 1-2 seconds to hit the guy. This is not because of my connection, Its not because of your connection. It has something to do with server side hosting only, or something like that, maybe I got that wrong. Any way it does not mater. Because its EPICS fault any way you say it. Epic did this to counter cheaters. Even though people are cheating at the game anyway.

 

So because your bullets take so long to reach the other guy, its almost impossible to hit him with the lancer (aka assault rifle). So you have almost no way of hitting him if he is moving. So now that this mid range weapon has almost no uses other then standing behind a door and holding "B" so you can chainsaw someone. and then be called a noob and every other name in the book along with some new ones. So this makes the game more into close range shotgun battles. But, the shotgun lags as well, but its not as bad because you use it at close range.

Now this would not be so bad, if the shotgun worked. I don't know how many times I have heard someone getting mad over the mic about how he shot that guy 3 times at point blank, and nothing happened. But he himself got killed with one.

 

So now the whole game is all about rushing the other guys base using almost no brain power, just running, and running, and rolling, and then pulling then shooting the gun and hoping that your shot hits the guy.

The other problem with the game is that you can't play with your friends in ranked matches. So now we have a game that's about team work, but you cant play with your friends that actually do use strategy. So now you get to be matched up with random people! Yey!

Now I get to play with people that have no clue what there doing, they just quit when we start to lose, curse and yell into the mic. And I get to play with 9 to 11 year olds that are telling me how to play the game. This really could be worst game I have ever played online. Halo2 is filled with cheats. But at least when you can a legit game in there, you know you are going to have some fun. Unlike in this game, ware it is destroyed by the lag.

 

The game idea is cool, the way the game looks is cool, the guns are cool, but the lag and no party system just messed the game up.

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#2 MrGrimFandango
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Your opinion doesnt matter? Seriously, its not even close to an F- and why would you even waste your time typing out why you think it sucks. There are plenty of worse games out and Gears definately doesnt deserve an F- no matter how you try and spin your BS.
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#3 prozack28
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man i hate to say it, but ya right
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#5 ghostsniperOP
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Your opinion doesnt matter? Seriously, its not even close to an F- and why would you even waste your time typing out why you think it sucks. There are plenty of worse games out and Gears definately doesnt deserve an F- no matter how you try and spin your BS.MrGrimFandango

oh im sorry, I thought this was America? sorry, my bad.

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#6 Shadow_op
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May I see your Gamercard?

Or have you played it once at a friends house?

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#7 Peter_Darkstar
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Your opinion doesnt matter? Seriously, its not even close to an F- and why would you even waste your time typing out why you think it sucks. There are plenty of worse games out and Gears definately doesnt deserve an F- no matter how you try and spin your BS.ghostsniperOP

oh im sorry, I thought this was America? sorry, my bad.

Yea, just because you can voice your opinion doesn't mean it matters. Also if Gears gets an F-, I'd hate to see what you're playing on your PS3. 

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#8 ghostsniperOP
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May I see your Gamercard?

Or have you played it once at a friends house?

Shadow_op

 

My gamer card is "S3al" look it up

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#9 ghostsniperOP
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[QUOTE="ghostsniperOP"]

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Your opinion doesnt matter? Seriously, its not even close to an F- and why would you even waste your time typing out why you think it sucks. There are plenty of worse games out and Gears definately doesnt deserve an F- no matter how you try and spin your BS.Peter_Darkstar

oh im sorry, I thought this was America? sorry, my bad.

Yea, just because you can voice your opinion doesn't mean it matters. Also if Gears gets an F-, I'd hate to see what you're playing on your PS3. 

So then I could say the same for you. watch this! Yea, just becuase you can voice your opinion, doesn't mean it matters. Look, I can do that to!

Also, I dont have a ps3, and I will never get one.

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#11 Rhaxdric
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So you mean to say the online gets an F- and single player get a... I dunno, a B+ or A-?

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#12 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="ghostsniperOP"]

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Your opinion doesnt matter? Seriously, its not even close to an F- and why would you even waste your time typing out why you think it sucks. There are plenty of worse games out and Gears definately doesnt deserve an F- no matter how you try and spin your BS.raidenseven

oh im sorry, I thought this was America? sorry, my bad.

there really needs to be a law against retarded opinions :wink:

You're right there does need to be. I mean there is no such thing as a F- first of all. This TC just needs to 

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#13 mark4091
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Your opinion doesnt matter? Seriously, its not even close to an F- and why would you even waste your time typing out why you think it sucks. There are plenty of worse games out and Gears definately doesnt deserve an F- no matter how you try and spin your BS.ghostsniperOP

oh im sorry, I thought this was America? sorry, my bad.

no this is the internet.

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#14 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="ghostsniperOP"]

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Your opinion doesnt matter? Seriously, its not even close to an F- and why would you even waste your time typing out why you think it sucks. There are plenty of worse games out and Gears definately doesnt deserve an F- no matter how you try and spin your BS.mark4091

oh im sorry, I thought this was America? sorry, my bad.

no this is the internet.

:lol::lol::lol: 

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#15 dcowboys3315
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i never have any problem with hitting people with the assault rifle....
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#16 Grive
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Sounds pretty much like it's your problem.

I've never had any problem whatsoever hitting people with the lancer at almost any range (except, of course, so-far-away-you-can't-see-them range). I can't do anything with the shotty to save my life, but then again, I suck in SP with the shotty, too.

While it's true that there might be a small lag, you're exaggerating things. I routinely can hit people far away with the sniper rifle, even if they're moving. I don't need to run in like a chicken with my head cut off, and while I thoroughly enjoy sneaking up and chainsawing people, it's far from the only decent strategy.As for the ranked matchmaking,  Ican see why they did it like that. Do I enjoy it? No, not really. However, it's the "fairest" way to judge someone's true skill. If we should really give a hoot about our trueskill, that's the subject of another debate :D

 

I'm not gonna call you a fanboy or fakeboy, since you do seem to have quite a bit of experience with GeoW (100 ranked match executions is not something you do in your first round at a friend's house). 

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#17 themyth01
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 Your opinion of the game, glad you don't make games, I'd think you'd go bankrupt fairly quickly.
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#18 HappyInvader101
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I respect you opinion even if it is wrong
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#19 cecx
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So just because the multiplayer wasn't very good, the whole game is terrible?  I thought the singleplayer / co-op was a lot of fun myself.  I definitely know what you're saying about online play though. :)
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#20 Kuruption84
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So because you didn't like the online component you give the game an F-? How much sense does that make? Well it's your opinion.
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#21 PotatoSandWitch
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Single player get's a C for really badly presented story and extreme shortness; the plus is online co-op.

Multiplayer get's a C as well, because while most of the stuff you said is true, it's far better than most (because most online multiplayer games are crap - even the ones people consider "great" like CoD3).

It's easy to get bored of it with the low number of people using mics, the quitters, the glitches, the extreme lag and host advantage you mentioned, and lack of party system.

Of course you will get flamed by the XBL users (aka idiots.. lol). I haven't met a single guy on Gears of War who is really cool. 

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#22 Lavagasm
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I agree. But it could be fixed, and it does ruin the whole experience.
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#23 foxhound_fox
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Complaining about lag... how original... :roll:

I think it might be about time to upgrade that connection...
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#24 cecx
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Single player get's a C for really badly presented story and extreme shortness; the plus is online co-op.

Multiplayer get's a C as well, because while most of the stuff you said is true, it's far better than most (because most online multiplayer games are crap - even the ones people consider "great" like CoD3).

It's easy to get bored of it with the low number of people using mics, the quitters, the glitches, the extreme lag and host advantage you mentioned, and lack of party system.

Of course you will get flamed by the XBL users (aka idiots.. lol). I haven't met a single guy on Gears of War who is really cool.

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I only played player matches back when I did play, and most people used mics there...and they were even more competitive. :)
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#25 readingfc_1
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Complaining about lag... how original... :roll:

I think it might be about time to upgrade that connection...foxhound_fox

 

I have a ridiculously fast connection at home. I still suffer lag from time to time.  

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#26 Rhaxdric
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Complaining about lag... how original... :roll:

I think it might be about time to upgrade that connection...foxhound_fox

Seriously, this guy has probably got through his 8th game in which lag affected him negatively, and needs to rant about it. Be it by incorrectly naming the games problems, so be it.

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#27 PotatoSandWitch
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Complaining about lag... how original... :roll:

I think it might be about time to upgrade that connection...foxhound_fox
Obviously you haven't gotten into the game. The host gets nearly no delay while all other players get a small to large delay after they fire their weapon for the shots to register.

Either you haven't played more than 10 ranked matches or you utterly suck. 

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#28 jg4xchamp
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its ur connection or ur bad at the game.
heres how to fix the problem.
1- get a better router or broadband service.
2- Get Skill.
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#29 Battleer
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You 360 fans are so hypocritical. You'll bash a PS3 game that you've never played without a second thought, and yet you say someones oppion about a 360 game being bad is completly dumb and ridiculous. Give me a break.
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#30 HarryCrackage
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I do agree with the TC...sort of. MP does feel a bit detached from the single player in that cover isn't nearly as important as rolling around like Mary Lou Retton and the obnoxious use of grenade tagging. Also, a party system similar to that found in Halo 2 would be nice. That being said, I haven't encountered the same issues with the lancer and shotgun that the TC mentions. I don't play too often anymore, but the multiplayer experience does provide quite a bit of entertainment IMO.
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#31 Saturos3091
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I hate the online community, not the bullet lag.

The bullet lag happens, but Epic made balances to fix it.  The bullet lag was reduced with the most recent patch (It really doesn't take 1-2 seconds to hit, it takes about 1/4-1/2 a second to hit) and made it a lot faster than that (still not as fast as it should be).  However the host also has problems, besides the fact they get no lag, I think their screen gets covered in blood when shot with a shotgun.  This used to happen to everyone, but I haven't seen it happen to me in a long time, other than when I'm hosting.  I'm pretty sure Epic did this to balance it out.
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#32 PotatoSandWitch
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[QUOTE="PotatoSandWitch"]

Single player get's a C for really badly presented story and extreme shortness; the plus is online co-op.

Multiplayer get's a C as well, because while most of the stuff you said is true, it's far better than most (because most online multiplayer games are crap - even the ones people consider "great" like CoD3).

It's easy to get bored of it with the low number of people using mics, the quitters, the glitches, the extreme lag and host advantage you mentioned, and lack of party system.

Of course you will get flamed by the XBL users (aka idiots.. lol). I haven't met a single guy on Gears of War who is really cool.

cecx

I only played player matches back when I did play, and most people used mics there...and they were even more competitive. :)

I realize there are more people with mics in player matches, but considering most people who play GeOW aren't worth talking to anyways (as 360 fans show even on these forums), it isn't a huge plus. And it still doesn't fix the lag issues. As far as being more competitive... I don't know.. it depends on the match.

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And that would be a big fat F-. Now before you start typing about how "wrong" I' am and that I am a moron. Read what I'm saying.

Ok, it would be pointless to talk about single player because we all know that it was good and solid. Some say a little short, but that does not matter. My problem with the game, if you want to call it that, is the online part of it.

There's nothing like playing gears of war. Really there is not, unless you are thinking back when you played counter strike or anything for the matter on 56k, then you would be right on the money. 

The big problem with the game is that your bullets take about 1-2 seconds to hit the guy. This is not because of my connection, Its not because of your connection. It has something to do with server side hosting only, or something like that, maybe I got that wrong. Any way it does not mater. Because its EPICS fault any way you say it. Epic did this to counter cheaters. Even though people are cheating at the game anyway.

 

So because your bullets take so long to reach the other guy, its almost impossible to hit him with the lancer (aka assault rifle). So you have almost no way of hitting him if he is moving. So now that this mid range weapon has almost no uses other then standing behind a door and holding "B" so you can chainsaw someone. and then be called a noob and every other name in the book along with some new ones. So this makes the game more into close range shotgun battles. But, the shotgun lags as well, but its not as bad because you use it at close range.

Now this would not be so bad, if the shotgun worked. I don't know how many times I have heard someone getting mad over the mic about how he shot that guy 3 times at point blank, and nothing happened. But he himself got killed with one.

 

So now the whole game is all about rushing the other guys base using almost no brain power, just running, and running, and rolling, and then pulling then shooting the gun and hoping that your shot hits the guy.

The other problem with the game is that you can't play with your friends in ranked matches. So now we have a game that's about team work, but you cant play with your friends that actually do use strategy. So now you get to be matched up with random people! Yey!

Now I get to play with people that have no clue what there doing, they just quit when we start to lose, curse and yell into the mic. And I get to play with 9 to 11 year olds that are telling me how to play the game. This really could be worst game I have ever played online. Halo2 is filled with cheats. But at least when you can a legit game in there, you know you are going to have some fun. Unlike in this game, ware it is destroyed by the lag.

 

The game idea is cool, the way the game looks is cool, the guns are cool, but the lag and no party system just messed the game up.

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#34 smokeydabear076
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Gears online is great.:)
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#35 zerooslo7990
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The game shouldn't be blamed because of the people who play it. Thats not the games falt. Though I do agree with you on the lag, but that rarely happens to me.
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#36 PotatoSandWitch
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You 360 fans are so hypocritical. You'll bash a PS3 game that you've never played without a second thought, and yet you say someones oppion about a 360 game being bad is completly dumb and ridiculous. Give me a break.Battleer
I hate the online community, not the bullet lag.  ....
Saturos3091

totally agreed. Not that online players from other services are any better, but the XBL community on 360 games I've played so far sucks. Somehow everybody was so much more fun to play with in the Halo2 days (and no, I don't mind people just because they are younger than me - as long as they aren't saying n**ger the whole match and complaining).

here's a prime example of a live user: 

its ur connection or ur bad at the game.
heres how to fix the problem.
1- get a better router or broadband service.
2- Get Skill. jg4xchamp

just pathetic :( 

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#37 foxhound_fox
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I have a ridiculously fast connection at home. I still suffer lag from time to time. readingfc_1


Then why not host yourself?
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#38 PotatoSandWitch
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[QUOTE="readingfc_1"]I have a ridiculously fast connection at home. I still suffer lag from time to time. foxhound_fox


Then why not host yourself?

again, showing he never plays the game...

it often takes a solid 5 minutes to get people in the match. Somtimes longer, and then I just give up.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="readingfc_1"]I have a ridiculously fast connection at home. I still suffer lag from time to time. PotatoSandWitch



Then why not host yourself?

again, showing he never plays the game...

it often takes a solid 5 minutes to get people in the match. Somtimes longer, and then I just give up.

Maybe you should invite some friends into the game.
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#40 PotatoSandWitch
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[QUOTE="PotatoSandWitch"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="readingfc_1"]I have a ridiculously fast connection at home. I still suffer lag from time to time. smokeydabear076



Then why not host yourself?

again, showing he never plays the game...

it often takes a solid 5 minutes to get people in the match. Somtimes longer, and then I just give up.

Maybe you should invite some friends into the game.

Can't invite friends into ranked matches.

And I only have one friend (my RL friend who has Live) who I'd really want to invite. The only guy I met on XBL who I wished I could see in RL stopped renewing XBL a couple years ago... I met him on Halo2. 

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#41 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="PotatoSandWitch"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="readingfc_1"]I have a ridiculously fast connection at home. I still suffer lag from time to time. PotatoSandWitch



Then why not host yourself?

again, showing he never plays the game...

it often takes a solid 5 minutes to get people in the match. Somtimes longer, and then I just give up.

Maybe you should invite some friends into the game.

Can't invite friends into ranked matches.

And I only have one friend (my RL friend who has Live) who I'd really want to invite. The only guy I met on XBL who I wished I could see in RL stopped renewing XBL a couple years ago... I met him on Halo2.

Oh, I basically only play with my friends on Gears of War so I never really bother with the ranked matches.
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#42 ApocalypseXIVV
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Single player get's a C for really badly presented story and extreme shortness; the plus is online co-op.

Multiplayer get's a C as well, because while most of the stuff you said is true, it's far better than most (because most online multiplayer games are crap - even the ones people consider "great" like CoD3).

It's easy to get bored of it with the low number of people using mics, the quitters, the glitches, the extreme lag and host advantage you mentioned, and lack of party system.

Of course you will get flamed by the XBL users (aka idiots.. lol). I haven't met a single guy on Gears of War who is really cool.

PotatoSandWitch

are u an A$$hole on XBL? cause that might be why, i got into 2 clans and manage to find 3 or 4 people to play with throught the day evertime i play, maybe its you...ya know? 

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#43 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
Can't invite friends into ranked matches.

And I only have one friend (my RL friend who has Live) who I'd really want to invite. The only guy I met on XBL who I wished I could see in RL stopped renewing XBL a couple years ago... I met him on Halo2.

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Why not play unranked matches?
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#45 helium_flash
Member since 2007 • 9244 Posts

May I see your Gamercard?

Or have you played it once at a friends house?

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No troll would put that much time into bashing one game. 

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#46 -Sora
Member since 2004 • 15152 Posts

And that would be a big fat F-. Now before you start typing about how "wrong" I' am and that I am a moron. Read what I'm saying.

Ok, it would be pointless to talk about single player because we all know that it was good and solid. Some say a little short, but that does not matter. My problem with the game, if you want to call it that, is the online part of it.

There's nothing like playing gears of war. Really there is not, unless you are thinking back when you played counter strike or anything for the matter on 56k, then you would be right on the money. 

The big problem with the game is that your bullets take about 1-2 seconds to hit the guy. This is not because of my connection, Its not because of your connection. It has something to do with server side hosting only, or something like that, maybe I got that wrong. Any way it does not mater. Because its EPICS fault any way you say it. Epic did this to counter cheaters. Even though people are cheating at the game anyway.

 

So because your bullets take so long to reach the other guy, its almost impossible to hit him with the lancer (aka assault rifle). So you have almost no way of hitting him if he is moving. So now that this mid range weapon has almost no uses other then standing behind a door and holding "B" so you can chainsaw someone. and then be called a noob and every other name in the book along with some new ones. So this makes the game more into close range shotgun battles. But, the shotgun lags as well, but its not as bad because you use it at close range.

Now this would not be so bad, if the shotgun worked. I don't know how many times I have heard someone getting mad over the mic about how he shot that guy 3 times at point blank, and nothing happened. But he himself got killed with one.

 

So now the whole game is all about rushing the other guys base using almost no brain power, just running, and running, and rolling, and then pulling then shooting the gun and hoping that your shot hits the guy.

The other problem with the game is that you can't play with your friends in ranked matches. So now we have a game that's about team work, but you cant play with your friends that actually do use strategy. So now you get to be matched up with random people! Yey!

Now I get to play with people that have no clue what there doing, they just quit when we start to lose, curse and yell into the mic. And I get to play with 9 to 11 year olds that are telling me how to play the game. This really could be worst game I have ever played online. Halo2 is filled with cheats. But at least when you can a legit game in there, you know you are going to have some fun. Unlike in this game, ware it is destroyed by the lag.

 

The game idea is cool, the way the game looks is cool, the guns are cool, but the lag and no party system just messed the game up.

ghostsniperOP

1. Try not playing on servers with only one bar, that means that its a laggy server

2. You could always try  to aim in front of your target with the lancer and shoot.

3. the shotgun has random sprays, you can't just shoot it and hope the pellets go the same way every time.

4. People scream over the mics because they think they shot the person 3 times point blank, but in reality they suck.

5. Play on player matches, its not that hard.

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#47 yodariquo
Member since 2005 • 6631 Posts

And that would be a big fat F- ... single player ... was good and solid.

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#48 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
Member since 2005 • 14149 Posts

i came in hoping to see a video of that garbage get burned. :(

k, so it's not that bad, but there are too many glitches.

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#49 jdknight21
Member since 2006 • 3282 Posts

I've never had any problem with the lag whatsoever and I've been online gaming since Halo 2 and basically just on XBOX platforms except for when I tried WoW/Everquest or CS/RtCW and went through that Sims phase when I was 10, so I know a thing or two about a thing or two so anyone who has an opinion otherwise is crazy, their opinion is worthless because we all admit Gears has glitchers, a bad community, sloppy hit detection/is laggy (even if you can't tell through the usual stutters), and a 'slight' host advangtage on any given day.  Thousands of others teenagers (to include college freshmen) agree with me, so you are clearly wrong for having some standards in your on-line gaming sir :roll:

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#50 El_Fanboy
Member since 2002 • 5789 Posts
so wait, all games have to have a party system now? Halo noob alert.