It's true IW really hit the nail on the head with the way they Incorporated the EXP and such especially in online play. When you play other shooters online they just feel dull and lame and generic in comparison to a IW developed FPS game.
MW is GOD
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It's true IW really hit the nail on the head with the way they Incorporated the EXP and such especially in online play. When you play other shooters online they just feel dull and lame and generic in comparison to a IW developed FPS game.
MW is GOD
I found COD4 ok for a few months then I got bored of it. Its all the same, every single match. The glitchers, the lag and random drop outs, the preteen kids. It got crap basiclly.
clyde46
Yet go play other FPS games online and you will still say MW is the best anyway.
BS.
1) The EXP system in COD4/WAW is nothing more then a cheap way of letting anyone eventually reach the highest ranks regardless of skill. What good is a ranking system that doesn't take anything but time to achieve? What good is a ranking system that doesn't even attempt to match a players skill level to keep games competitive?
2) Perks make the game(s) unbalanced
3) Unlocking "better" weapons and perks breaks balance even further Now not only are vets more skilled with the game and map layouts, they have better equipment/bonuses as well? Stupid.
The only thing good in COD multiplayer is smooth framerates.
[QUOTE="clyde46"]
I found COD4 ok for a few months then I got bored of it. Its all the same, every single match. The glitchers, the lag and random drop outs, the preteen kids. It got crap basiclly.
Pimp_Dog09
Yet go play other FPS games online and you will still say MW is the best anyway.
No its not. Its medicore, third rate shooter at best.This. Putting EXP in FPS games is stupid anyways, if im a good player, i don't need some stupid number to tell everyone in the server that. EXP and Perks are overrated.BS.
1) The EXP system in COD4/WAW is nothing more then a cheap way of letting anyone eventually reach the highest ranks regardless of skill. What good is a ranking system that doesn't take anything but time to achieve? What good is a ranking system that doesn't even attempt to match a players skill level to keep games competitive?
2) Perks make the game(s) unbalanced
3) Unlocking "better" weapons and perks breaks balance even further Now not only are vets more skilled with the game and map layouts, they have better equipment/bonuses as well? Stupid.
The only thing good in COD multiplayer is smooth framerates.
Metalscarz
BS.
1) The EXP system in COD4/WAW is nothing more then a cheap way of letting anyone eventually reach the highest ranks regardless of skill. What good is a ranking system that doesn't take anything but time to achieve? What good is a ranking system that doesn't even attempt to match a players skill level to keep games competitive?
2) Perks make the game(s) unbalanced
3) Unlocking "better" weapons and perks breaks balance even further Now not only are vets more skilled with the game and map layouts, they have better equipment/bonuses as well? Stupid.
The only thing good in COD multiplayer is smooth framerates.
Metalscarz
So wait so having a better perk becuase you trained more and harder to earn it is a bad thing?:? So right I guess even in a real war if just a grunt solder goes head to head with say a Green Beret or Navy seal is he going to yell out NO WAIT this is not fair let me leave the battlefield becuase you will own me?
How can you say having perks is bad? If you get owned well sounds like you need to work harder and get better perks and level up more. Don't hate becuase others have better perks.
Really? Do you play Rainbow Six Vegas 2 at all, Wasdie?I find that the experience meter deters teamwork. Everybody just wants to get the highest score they can, they don't actually want to win the matches.
Wasdie
Funny you should say that, I got bored with MW's online rather quickly. BFBC on the other hand, well I played that consistently for ages. Now I'm hooked on BF1943.
CoD is the definition of dull and lame and generic.AAllxxjjnn
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CS and if you do well then perks in that game $$$ buy new items so don't even go there.
Cod4 was good, but not like, amazing... and certainly not the best console shooter.
VendettaRed07
Well It's fine that some of you are down on IW developed COD or MW games. But clearly MILLIONS think other wise. And they expect MW2 to shatter all game sales records at launch and there after.
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]CoD is the definition of dull and lame and generic.Pimp_Dog09
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CS
Okay, Team Fortress 2.[QUOTE="Metalscarz"]
BS.
1) The EXP system in COD4/WAW is nothing more then a cheap way of letting anyone eventually reach the highest ranks regardless of skill. What good is a ranking system that doesn't take anything but time to achieve? What good is a ranking system that doesn't even attempt to match a players skill level to keep games competitive?
2) Perks make the game(s) unbalanced
3) Unlocking "better" weapons and perks breaks balance even further Now not only are vets more skilled with the game and map layouts, they have better equipment/bonuses as well? Stupid.
The only thing good in COD multiplayer is smooth framerates.
Pimp_Dog09
So wait so having a better perk becuase you trained more and harder to earn it is a bad thing?:? So right I guess even in a real war if just a grunt solder goes head to head with say a Green Beret or Navy seal is he going to yell out NO WAIT this is not fair let me leave the battlefield becuase you will own me?
How can you say having perks is bad? If you get owned well sounds like you need to work harder and get better perks and level up more. Don't hate becuase others have better perks.
Trained harder? Perks are useless, they really do make the gameplay unbalanced. I've got no chance against someone who is using the increased bullet damaged perk.You've obviously never played a PC FPS... Go sit down kid and stop making yourself look like a fool.
Protip:
Shooting through walls came from Counter Strike (released in 2000 as retail)
FPS games have been using XP for a while now. Granted they were FPS RPG's, they were more balanced in their weapons and "perk" equivalents. Example. Planet Side.
Man, I love my consoles, especially my PS3, but its undeniable that PC is the pioneer platform for games... undeniable.
[QUOTE="Metalscarz"]
BS.
1) The EXP system in COD4/WAW is nothing more then a cheap way of letting anyone eventually reach the highest ranks regardless of skill. What good is a ranking system that doesn't take anything but time to achieve? What good is a ranking system that doesn't even attempt to match a players skill level to keep games competitive?
2) Perks make the game(s) unbalanced
3) Unlocking "better" weapons and perks breaks balance even further Now not only are vets more skilled with the game and map layouts, they have better equipment/bonuses as well? Stupid.
The only thing good in COD multiplayer is smooth framerates.
Pimp_Dog09
So wait so having a better perk becuase you trained more and harder to earn it is a bad thing?:? So right I guess even in a real was if just a grunt solder goes head to head with say a Green Beret or Navy seal is he going to yell out NO WAIT this is not fair let me leave the battlefield becuase you will own me?
How can you say having perks is bad? If you get owned well sounds like you need to work harder and get better perks and level up more. Don't hate becuase others have better perks.
No, he is saying that people who have perks make it more difficult and unbalanced for someone who is just joining, now i dont care about the noobs, but what i do care about is balanced gameplay, i would rather have perks removed because they get noobish players cheap kills, a player who normally sucks at FPS's can get on the score board quite easily just by having martydom. And that's the problem, it encourages noobs to choose the cheapest perk because it gets kills so they can compensate for there crappy skill..having perks is not bad, things like slight of hand can be quite useful in many situations, but alot of them are way to cheap, another example of unbalanced game play is the helicopter, if one team is dominating HEAVEN FORBID giving the other team some help, but NOOOOO, instead give the winning team a Fing UAV and Helicopter so they can dominate some more. I also love it when CoD lovers just throw out "Get Better, and work as a team" or in your case "Level up more and dont hate others", When i lose a game, because my team and i lack the skill to win, that's fine, but if i lose to some beefed up player with martydom, Juggernaut, Slight of hand, and is playing on a team constantly spawning heli's, something is wrong..[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"][QUOTE="Metalscarz"]
BS.
1) The EXP system in COD4/WAW is nothing more then a cheap way of letting anyone eventually reach the highest ranks regardless of skill. What good is a ranking system that doesn't take anything but time to achieve? What good is a ranking system that doesn't even attempt to match a players skill level to keep games competitive?
2) Perks make the game(s) unbalanced
3) Unlocking "better" weapons and perks breaks balance even further Now not only are vets more skilled with the game and map layouts, they have better equipment/bonuses as well? Stupid.
The only thing good in COD multiplayer is smooth framerates.
clyde46
So wait so having a better perk becuase you trained more and harder to earn it is a bad thing?:? So right I guess even in a real war if just a grunt solder goes head to head with say a Green Beret or Navy seal is he going to yell out NO WAIT this is not fair let me leave the battlefield becuase you will own me?
How can you say having perks is bad? If you get owned well sounds like you need to work harder and get better perks and level up more. Don't hate becuase others have better perks.
Trained harder? Perks are useless, they really do make the gameplay unbalanced. I've got no chance against someone who is using the increased bullet damaged perk.i know theres no point in using any other perk besides like, juggernaut, or the increased bullet damage one. If you dont, you wont be able to kill anyone because it takes more bullets to put them down, and youll die in like one hit.
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]CoD is the definition of dull and lame and generic.Pimp_Dog09
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CS and if you do well then perks in that game $$$ buy new items so don't even go there.
why cant he say cs? because we all know its better? it actually takes legitimate skill and strategy, rather than whoever see's who first will get the kill[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]CoD is the definition of dull and lame and generic.Pimp_Dog09
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CS and if you do well then perks in that game $$$ buy new items so don't even go there.
That properly reflects skill level. You get more kills and not die, you get more money. More money gets you better guns, armor, ammo, etc. If you suck, you stay at the bottom of the food chain. Since you don't want CS as an example. HL2 DM Tribes 2 Red Orchestra All 3 of those games take more skill than almost any console FPS. Hell, KZ2 takes more skill than COD just because you can't spray and pray.I like playing various fps games depending on my mood. Some fps games accommodate on parts where other fps games don't do too well or don't have.
CoD4 mp is a fun game, but it's not perfect. It has its flaws like how some maps are unbalanced (ex. Blog) or the respawn issues. Aside the mp I love their single player campaigns. Enjoyed their games since MOH:AA.
[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]CoD is the definition of dull and lame and generic.Stevo_the_gamer
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CS
Okay, Team Fortress 2.Good game but still the amount of players on COD servers still say better then the amount of players on TF servers
Okay, Team Fortress 2.[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CSPimp_Dog09
Good game but still the amount of players on COD servers still say better then the amount of players on TF servers
You do know that to get into the popular servers day or night you have to wait ages. TF2 is more popular than COD4.Okay, Team Fortress 2.[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CSPimp_Dog09
Good game but still the amount of players on COD servers still say better then the amount of players on TF servers
You're obviously thinking of the 360 version. Because the PC version has always full servers.[QUOTE="clyde46"]
I found COD4 ok for a few months then I got bored of it. Its all the same, every single match. The glitchers, the lag and random drop outs, the preteen kids. It got crap basiclly.
Pimp_Dog09
Yet go play other FPS games online and you will still say MW is the best anyway.
Team Fortress 2 pops its head in to say "hi" and "you're full of it"
Okay, Team Fortress 2.[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]
So tell us what online shooters are better? Don't even say CSPimp_Dog09
Good game but still the amount of players on COD servers still say better then the amount of players on TF servers
Im pretty sure CS and 1.6 Double the size of CoD's...ya the money system in cs is genius, and really adds strategy to competitive play
although in source competitive play you start with $16000 which almost defeats the purpose of proper money management, especially with it only being 12 rounds a half, unlike in 1.6 where you start with $800 and its 15 rounds a half
You've obviously never played a PC FPS... Go sit down kid and stop making yourself look like a fool.
Protip:
Shooting through walls came from Counter Strike (released in 2000 as retail)
FPS games have been using XP for a while now. Granted they were FPS RPG's, they were more balanced in their weapons and "perk" equivalents. Example. Planet Side.
Man, I love my consoles, especially my PS3, but its undeniable that PC is the pioneer platform for games... undeniable.
zero_snake99
How wrong you are I used to be big into PC games.
Played them all CS 1.6 CSS HL1 TF1 UT UT3-4 MOH COD1-also UO add on. Rainbow Six series. I've played them all pretty much any worth playing PC game.
Source had terrible economy system, When you bought the weapon it came with bullets, which i though was kind of unrealistic, i like 1.6's better because you had to buy the defuse kit and bullets for your seperate guns, it made the game much more strategic than Source, because you could decide who gets what and save the money..ya the money system in cs is genius, and really adds strategy to competitive play although in source competitive play you start with $16000 which almost defeats the purpose of proper money management, especially with it only being 12 rounds a half, unlike in 1.6 where you start with $800 and its 15 rounds a half
kidcool189
[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]
You've obviously never played a PC FPS... Go sit down kid and stop making yourself look like a fool.
Protip:
Shooting through walls came from Counter Strike (released in 2000 as retail)
FPS games have been using XP for a while now. Granted they were FPS RPG's, they were more balanced in their weapons and "perk" equivalents. Example. Planet Side.
Man, I love my consoles, especially my PS3, but its undeniable that PC is the pioneer platform for games... undeniable.
Pimp_Dog09
How wrong you are I used to be big into PC games.
Played them all CS 1.6 CSS HL1 TF1 UT UT3-4 MOH COD1-also UO add on. Rainbow Six series. I've played them all pretty much any worth playing PC game.
That's what all of them say.. "OH ive played every PC FPS' mentionable".. "Oh!, i have experience in this field gentlemen". Grain of salt.The server can set the starting money in CSS to anything from 800-16000, and starting with 800 is kind of lame because it's just a dumb pistol warmup round.ya the money system in cs is genius, and really adds strategy to competitive play although in source competitive play you start with $16000 which almost defeats the purpose of proper money management, especially with it only being 12 rounds a half, unlike in 1.6 where you start with $800 and its 15 rounds a half
kidcool189
The server can set the starting money in CSS to anything from 800-16000, and starting with 800 is kind of lame because it's just a dumb pistol warmup round. The Pistol round is really important actually because whoever wins gets more money and the upper hand on the other team, unless they spend it unwisely and buys TMP's for everyone.. But i do agree, 800 is kinda lame, im so used to 16000 that anything else lower is like getting a Penny.[QUOTE="kidcool189"]
ya the money system in cs is genius, and really adds strategy to competitive play although in source competitive play you start with $16000 which almost defeats the purpose of proper money management, especially with it only being 12 rounds a half, unlike in 1.6 where you start with $800 and its 15 rounds a half
BigDaddyPOLO
[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]
You've obviously never played a PC FPS... Go sit down kid and stop making yourself look like a fool.
Protip:
Shooting through walls came from Counter Strike (released in 2000 as retail)
FPS games have been using XP for a while now. Granted they were FPS RPG's, they were more balanced in their weapons and "perk" equivalents. Example. Planet Side.
Man, I love my consoles, especially my PS3, but its undeniable that PC is the pioneer platform for games... undeniable.
Pimp_Dog09
How wrong you are I used to be big into PC games.
Played them all CS 1.6 CSS HL1 TF1 UT UT3-4 MOH COD1-also UO add on. Rainbow Six series. I've played them all pretty much any worth playing PC game.
Wtf is "TF1"? No one calls it Team Fortress 1 if they've played it. It's TFC. And just because you've "played" a game, doesn't mean you were on it for more than an hour. I can probably take you on in any one of those games easily. It takes lots of skill, and for you to say that COD4/MW2 is better shows that you have no gauge of experience.ya, of course they can do that, but when it comes to pub servers i prefer to start out with 16k anyway since i go to pubs just to mess around or warm up for a scrim
but im really not sure why they made it $16k default in source scrims, i LOVE pistol round in 1.6 scrims, especially if you gotta save and stick with a pistol that round, take a guy or 2 out and get their rifle...big money saver
[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]The server can set the starting money in CSS to anything from 800-16000, and starting with 800 is kind of lame because it's just a dumb pistol warmup round. The Pistol round is really important actually because whoever wins gets more money and the upper hand on the other team, unless they spend it unwisely and buys TMP's for everyone.. But i do agree, 800 is kinda lame, im so used to 16000 that anything else lower is like getting a Penny. I've always loved pistol round. I was always the guy to waste my money (as a CT) on a glock, because that was my weapon in 1.6 (CSS is lame..though i do play it lol). Strafing into the line of fire that comes from B tunnels, just so you can 2 hit someone with the glock in the neck. Blood gushing out as you know their guy is probably looking straight up after your shots... man that was the stuff lol...[QUOTE="kidcool189"]
ya the money system in cs is genius, and really adds strategy to competitive play although in source competitive play you start with $16000 which almost defeats the purpose of proper money management, especially with it only being 12 rounds a half, unlike in 1.6 where you start with $800 and its 15 rounds a half
Pinkyimp
MW is fun at first but gets boring fast. it takes no skill. couple hours of play and i manage to destroy every1. the game is for kids. no teamwork. just everybody running around doing there own thing. and the amount of kids that play that game is a joke.
ya, of course they can do that, but when it comes to pub servers i prefer to start out with 16k anyway since i go to pubs just to mess around or warm up for a scrim but im really not sure why they made it $16k default in source scrims, i LOVE pistol round in 1.6 scrimskidcool189
Ya ya ya I played TFC a lot back in the day very fun for it's time. I honestly still LOVE UT 1999 Man that is great still better then most today.
Yeah, coming from TF2 i was amazed at how many people worked as a team, i think that was my first real online experience where everyone cooperated and worked together...planning Ubers, Demos sticky bombing sentries so the scout can push the cart..i was amazed.MW is fun at first but gets boring fast. it takes no skill. couple hours of play and i manage to destroy every1. the game is for kids. no teamwork. just everybody running around doing there own thing. and the amount of kids that play that game is a joke.
noble_aryan
That is precisely the fact, COD 4 consists of a bunch of mindless lunatics running around with a P90 spraying the whole map. Without a single regard to any teammate running beside them.I find that the experience meter deters teamwork. Everybody just wants to get the highest score they can, they don't actually want to win the matches.
Wasdie
Not to mention the unbalanced guns and noob-friendly perks. THe game is a complete joke.
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